bush_cheney2004 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 You don't? You had a violent revolution that killed many, many people because you cared so much about being treated unfairly, but then you had no issue keeping slaves at the same time. Nor have you had much issues with treating 'other people' unfairly over the last two hundred years. That's OK.....slaves were property, just like in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Found this in my email: You know you’re Canadian when… To be Canadian is to drink your double-double, endure unpleasant weather and watch America get all the neat stuff. At least, that’s how we seem to think of ourselves according to the hundreds of #YouKnowYoureCanadianWhen tweets flying around Twitter today. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Found this in my email: You know you’re Canadian when… To be Canadian is to drink your double-double, endure unpleasant weather and watch America get all the neat stuff. Well, at least they get to use American "neat stuff" like Twitter. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
g_bambino Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Ummm. Yeah. I did. Nope, you didn't. The American colonists thought it was unfair. So you say. Doesn't mean it was. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Nope, you didn't.Yeah, I did. So you say. Doesn't mean it was.Well there you go, then - a cultural difference. I happen to think taxation without representation and taxing some citizens more IS unfair. I suppose you would be ok if your government decided, without any say from your province, to tax y'all higher than the rest of Canada? Here's the thing, just because you might think that's fair, doesn't mean it is. Edited July 4, 2013 by American Woman Quote
g_bambino Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 Yeah, I did. Show me where. I happen to think taxation without representation... IS unfair. Not for a colony. I suppose you would be ok if your government decided, without any say from your province, to tax y'all higher than the rest of Canada? Provinces aren't colonies. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 .....Well there you go, then - a cultural difference. I happen to think taxation without representation and taxing some citizens more IS unfair. I suppose you would be ok if your government decided, without any say from your province, to tax y'all higher than the rest of Canada? Here's the thing, just because you might think that's fair, doesn't mean it is. Yes....there was identical disagreement between republican colonists and loyalists. We all know how that turned out. Happy Independence Day ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 We all know how that turned out. No need to apologize. We, and King George, forgive you ! Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 No need to apologize. We, and King George, forgive you ! Of course....forgiveness is always easier to get than permission. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 Yes....there was identical disagreement between republican colonists and loyalists. We all know how that turned out. Happy Independence Day !Right back at you!! I love the Fourth of July - Everyone is in a party mood, strangers are friends. It's all good! Quote
carepov Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Interesting read, notice how the claims are supported with external studies/links: http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/06/28/99-reasons-why-its-better-to-be-canadian/ and before b_c says it, here's a reason why its better to be American: -Americans have no need for comparing themselves to others Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Interesting read, notice how the claims are supported with external studies/links: http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/06/28/99-reasons-why-its-better-to-be-canadian/ and before b_c says it, here's a reason why its better to be American: -Americans have no need for comparing themselves to others The way I see it, when you no longer have the need to compare yourselves to the U.S. to make yourselves feel good, in this case, superior, perhaps that's when it will truly be great to be Canadian - but it's not better than being American. I love being American, and it's not because I think we have it up over you or any other number of countries I could mention. I appreciate my country for what it is and what it offers me. If you need to feel it's "better" to be Canadian, so be it. I could argue some of those conclusions, perhaps it would make for interesting discussion, but people see what they want to see, and they'll see it from their point of view, which doesn't mean that's the way it is all around. I think Canadians should think that it's great to be Canadian, but I do feel it's sad that you have to compare yourselves to the U.S., and cut down the U.S., in order to feel that way. I think that would be the worst thing about "being Canadian." Quote
g_bambino Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Americans have no need for comparing themselves to others It's hard to compare yourself to others when you don't think any others exist. Quote
carepov Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 The way I see it, when you no longer have the need to compare yourselves to the U.S. to make yourselves feel good, in this case, superior, perhaps that's when it will truly be great to be Canadian - but it's not better than being American. I love being American, and it's not because I think we have it up over you or any other number of countries I could mention. I appreciate my country for what it is and what it offers me. If you need to feel it's "better" to be Canadian, so be it. I could argue some of those conclusions, perhaps it would make for interesting discussion, but people see what they want to see, and they'll see it from their point of view, which doesn't mean that's the way it is all around. I think Canadians should think that it's great to be Canadian, but I do feel it's sad that you have to compare yourselves to the U.S., and cut down the U.S., in order to feel that way. I think that would be the worst thing about "being Canadian." Sure, both Canada and the USA would be even better places if we were less arrogant. Nobody chooses in which country they are born into so we may as well be happy with what we got and not put down others that happen to be born in another country. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Sure, both Canada and the USA would be even better places if we were less arrogant.That isn't what I was getting at at all. Nobody chooses in which country they are born into so we may as well be happy with what we got and not put down others that happen to be born in another country.It's one thing to put them down; it's quite another to find your sense of well being from doing so. Edited July 10, 2013 by American Woman Quote
carepov Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 That isn't what I said at all. I know, I did not mean to imply that it was. Are you disagreeing with me on the point I made? It's one thing to put them down; it's quite another to find your sense of well being from doing so. I would think that anytime someone puts another down another it is a way to feel superior. Why else put someone down? Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 I know, I did not mean to imply that it was. Are you disagreeing with me on the point I made?I'm not sure why you are bringing it up rather than responding to the point I was making, which you ignored. I would think that anytime someone puts another down another it is a way to feel superior. Why else put someone down?Generally speaking, that's likely true for the most part. So that being the case, it speaks of the opposite of the claim, wouldn't you say? IE: If Canada has to cut down the U.S. in order to proclaim it's greatness, wouldn't that mean that Canada really doesn't feel it's that great? Quote
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Dont think anyone uses any American reference when talking with another Canadian. If someone from BC and me from Ont chat about differences, neither would use any Yank reference. Its only when talking to Americans do we do it. We make it simple for them to understand. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 It's hard to compare yourself to others when you don't think any others exist. ........Its only when talking to Americans do we do it. We make it simple for them to understand. Are these comments examples of what it takes to feel good about being Canadian? Quote
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Are these comments examples of what it takes to feel good about being Canadian? My comment is pretty clear and infers not one whit about any feelings whatsoever. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) My comment is pretty clear and infers not one whit about any feelings whatsoever.In light of the discussion, I would say it's a perfect example of Canadians needing to cut down Americans in order to feel good about themselves, so I can't help but wonder if such comments make y'all feel good about yourselves. Edited July 10, 2013 by American Woman Quote
dre Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 In light of the discussion, I would say it's a perfect example of Canadians needing to cut down Americans in order to feel good about themselves, so I can't help but wonder if such comments make y'all feel good about yourselves. This? Again? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
cybercoma Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Apparently American Woman has more insight into how Canadians think and feel than Canadians themselves do. For someone that gets completely bent out of shape when people speak for her, that's rather presumptuous and quite hypocritical. Edited July 10, 2013 by cybercoma Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) This? Again? I'm not the one who posted the link about Canadians comparing themselves to Americans as proof of how great Canada is - and I'm not the one who pointed out that Americans have no such need - but by all means, single me out. Apparently American Woman has more insight into how Canadians think and feel than Canadians themselves do. For someone that gets completely bent out of shape when people speak for her, that's rather presumptuous and quite hypocritical. See above. I've spoken for no one. Odd (not!) that you would be taking issue with me when I'm responding to a link - posted by a Canadian, in case the obvious escaped you. Your personal commentary about me is rather off the wall and quite ignorant. Edited July 10, 2013 by American Woman Quote
cybercoma Posted July 11, 2013 Report Posted July 11, 2013 I've spoken for no one. You haven't? it's a perfect example of Canadians needing to cut down Americans in order to feel good about themselvesThis isn't an example of you having some sort of psychic probe into how Canadians must feel about themselves? when you no longer have the need to compare yourselves to the U.S. to make yourselves feel goodAnd another example of you speaking for Canadians and their need to feel good about themselves. that's when it will truly be great to be CanadianOr you speaking for when it will be great to be a Canadian. I think Canadians should think that it's great to be Canadian, but I do feel it's sad that you have to compare yourselves to the U.S., and cut down the U.S., in order to feel that way. I think that would be the worst thing about "being Canadian."And even more speaking for Canadians about what they should and shouldn't think and how they should or shouldn't think. I just find it terribly ironic that you make no hesitations about jumping all over that Report button when someone allegedly speaks for you, but you have no problem at all generalizing about Canadians and their thoughts and feelings. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson
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