bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Now this is an interesting turn of events... The Supreme Court today narrowly ruled in favor of white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., who said they were denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision by Judge Sonia Sotomayor and others that had come to play a large role in the consideration of her nomination for the high court. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...2901608_pf.html Should make for very lively hearings later this summer. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Now this is an interesting turn of events... The Supreme Court today narrowly ruled in favor of white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., who said they were denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision by Judge Sonia Sotomayor and others that had come to play a large role in the consideration of her nomination for the high court. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...2901608_pf.html Should make for very lively hearings later this summer. Make this clear...is Judge Sonia Sotomayor an Obama appointee? If so was one of her rulings over turned? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 Make this clear...is Judge Sonia Sotomayor an Obama appointee? If so was one of her rulings over turned? Obama has nominated Judge Sotomayor to join the US Supreme Court. Her path getting there has just hit a new pothole with today's ruling that overturned one of her lower court rulings. It won't be as exciting as Long Dong Silver and Judge Clarence Thomas, but should still make for fine summer entertainment until football starts. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Obama has nominated Judge Sotomayor to join the US Supreme Court. Her path getting there has just hit a new pothole with today's ruling that overturned one of her lower court rulings.It won't be as exciting as Long Dong Silver and Judge Clarence Thomas, but should still make for fine summer entertainment until football starts. Wow - so as she is moving up the food chain - her but is on fire...bit of a slight wouldn't you say? Actually I hope that it gives her some humility..as she enters the upper chambers that her poop stinks like everybody elses. So if a "lower" court is going to over rule her lower rulings- she might have a problem...If her rulings were spot on then they should never have been over ruled - I guess Obama got himself some affirmative action in bulk but quality might be lacking. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 ...If her rulings were spot on then they should never have been over ruled - I guess Obama got himself some affirmative action in bulk but quality might be lacking. Yes, she is going to have to back off of her rhetoric and rulings. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Let's not forget about the Hispanic firefighters involved in the same court decision. Today's ruling is a triumph over discrimination of all kinds. Quote
August1991 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Should make for very lively hearings later this summer.Since Sotomayor would replace Souter (who was one of the dissenting four on this decision), I don't think it means much.I liked this quote in the wsj: In dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the majority overlooked a long history of racial discrimination in fire departments that justifies extraordinary deference efforts to promote diversity in the ranks. The Canadian and US experience is so different in this regard. Quote
sharkman Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 I don't know how Ginsburg can look at the evidence and then spout leftwing nonsense that doesn't exist anymore. A guy with a major learning disability passed the test and beat all the blacks who took the test! What does that tell you? It won't change the outcome, but for people who can see objectively, yet another bad decision by Obama. I had read previously that 65% of Sotomayor's decisions had been overturned but I can't find much in the way of details on this. Quote
punked Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 She actually, if you read her opinion, didn't agree with the decision but as the law was set out ruled to the law. I hate when judges aren't activist judges. This isn't a road bump but I hope the republicans keep making hay of this, they are losing the Hispanic vote so fast by doing this. Quote
Shady Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 She actually, if you read her opinion, didn't agree with the decision but as the law was set out ruled to the law. I hate when judges aren't activist judges. This isn't a road bump but I hope the republicans keep making hay of this, they are losing the Hispanic vote so fast by doing this. Why? One of the firefighters who was discriminated against is Hispanic. Quote
punked Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Why? One of the firefighters who was discriminated against is Hispanic. Because from the time Gingrich started saying Sotomayor was a racist and you guys started repeating it until now you guys have dropped 10 points among Hispanics and guess who picked those up? Obama did. If the republicans keep it up they will make the Hispanic vote the new black vote and the dems will only need 25-30% of whites to win the white house for the foreseeable future. It is a dumb play and you guys keep jumping on it. This ruling does not matter you guys jumping up and down screaming "See she's a racist" is great news for everyone who isn't republican you guys might even turn Florida from redish purple to blue. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 ....It is a dumb play and you guys keep jumping on it. This ruling does not matter you guys jumping up and down screaming "See she's a racist" is great news for everyone who isn't republican you guys might even turn Florida from redish purple to blue. Not so dumb....the trail can be traced all the way back to the affirmative action struggles of the 1970's (e.g. Bakke vs. Regents) wherein quota systems were declared unconstitutional but preferential discrimination was sanctioned to reduce past injustices. Other cases have been adjudicated to address "angry white male" backlash at a system that just created more victims. Or as one of the firefighters put it, meritocracy isn't quite dead yet. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 The Supreme Court today narrowly ruled in... This Supreme Court decision was a 5-4 ruling. One cannot get a more divided court than this. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 This Supreme Court decision was a 5-4 ruling. One cannot get a more divided court than this. Yes one can.....when a justice recuses him/herself from a case, the "split" can be more divided at 4 - 4...deadlock. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Not so dumb....the trail can be traced all the way back to the affirmative action struggles of the 1970's (e.g. Bakke vs. Regents) wherein quota systems were declared unconstitutional but preferential discrimination was sanctioned to reduce past injustices.Other cases have been adjudicated to address "angry white male" backlash at a system that just created more victims. Or as one of the firefighters put it, meritocracy isn't quite dead yet. That was not what the case was about. It was about a test which was discriminatory. If you read what the Supreme court wrote they wrote she made the right call becuase they were ruling on what has been said and ruled before. She was no legislating from the bench like so many judges do which is wrong. The Supreme court wrote they set a new president which well with in their power it was not within Sotomayor power do that though. Like that decision or hate it, cheer Monday’s ruling or deplore it, one thing that is clear from reading the Supreme Court’s 89 pages of opinions in the case is that Judge Sotomayor and her colleagues played by the old rules, and the court changed them. Although “Sotomayor Reversed” was a frequent headline on the posts that spread quickly across the Web, it was actually the Supreme Court itself that shifted course. New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/opinion/...amp;ref=opinion Honestly keep calling her a racist and lose the whole Hispanic vote in 2012. Take New Mexico, Florida, Nevada, Colorado, and even Arizona out of play and see what you are left with. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 That was not what the case was about. It was about a test which was discriminatory. If you read what the Supreme court wrote they wrote she made the right call becuase they were ruling on what has been said and ruled before. She was no legislating from the bench like so many judges do which is wrong. The Supreme court wrote they set a new president which well with in their power it was not within Sotomayor power do that though. Doesn't matter.....the popular political dynamic is that Sotomayor is perceived as being reversed, the same affliction that haunted Judge Alito. Honestly keep calling her a racist and lose the whole Hispanic vote in 2012. Take New Mexico, Florida, Nevada, Colorado, and even Arizona out of play and see what you are left with. Nonsense.....the "whole" Hispanic vote.....how dramatic! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Yes one can.....when a justice recuses him/herself from a case, the "split" can be more divided at 4 - 4...deadlock. Sotomayor could break this deadlock. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 Sotomayor could break this deadlock. She cannot change basic math. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
benny Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 She cannot change basic math. She represents the uneven (pivotal) number. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 She represents the uneven (pivotal) number. Only in your mind. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Nonsense.....the "whole" Hispanic vote.....how dramatic! Yah the whole Hispanic vote. http://mylatinonews.com/2009/06/gop-ready-...blicans-erodes/ Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Posted June 30, 2009 Yah the whole Hispanic vote.http://mylatinonews.com/2009/06/gop-ready-...blicans-erodes/ Well, then I guess we shouldn't deport illegal aliens either ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Well, then I guess we shouldn't deport illegal aliens either ! Land of the free home of the brave. Quote
benny Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Well, then I guess we shouldn't deport illegal aliens either ! The real Bush would agree with you. Quote
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