bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 President Obama is losing ground in the ratings game......now he is making the same mistake as Clinton...getting bogged down in gay rights. ...The results come after weeks of Republican hammering of Mr. Obama for spending too much and taking on too many issues, arguments that appear to be resonating with some voters. Mr. Obama's overall job approval and personal ratings have slipped, particularly among independent voters. His job approval rating now stands at 56%, down from 61% in April. Among independents, it dropped from nearly two-to-one approval to closely divided. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245275180...tml#mod=testMod Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jdobbin Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-countr...ad-support.html Will most Americans support President Obama's executive order extending certain benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees? Probably, according to a Gallup Poll released last month.The poll found that, while most Americans oppose gay marriage, 67 percent say "gay and lesbian domestic partners should have access to health insurance and other employee benefits." Looks like Obama should be able to move along from this decision with support. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-countr...ad-support.htmlLooks like Obama should be able to move along from this decision with support. I am in favor of domestic partner benefits. Not gay marriage, though. If we're going to start changing the definition of words, why don't we start with "heterosexual"? and get to "marriage" down the road? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Posted June 18, 2009 Obama is ducking the issue, just like Bill Clinton did in 1993: ...Obama aides urged gays and lesbians to have patience with the new White House's slow-and-steady approach to the politically charged topic. But his critics - and there were many - saw Wednesday's incremental move to expand gay rights as little more than pandering to a reliably Democratic voting bloc, with the primary aim not of making policy more fair but of cutting short a fundraising boycott. "When a president tells you he's going to be different, you believe him," said John Aravosis, a Washington-based gay activist. "It's not that he didn't follow through on his promises, he stabbed us in the back." http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090617/D98SM6BO0.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 Obama is ducking the issue, just like Bill Clinton did in 1993: ...Obama aides urged gays and lesbians to have patience with the new White House's slow-and-steady approach to the politically charged topic. But his critics - and there were many - saw Wednesday's incremental move to expand gay rights as little more than pandering to a reliably Democratic voting bloc, with the primary aim not of making policy more fair but of cutting short a fundraising boycott. "When a president tells you he's going to be different, you believe him," said John Aravosis, a Washington-based gay activist. "It's not that he didn't follow through on his promises, he stabbed us in the back." http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090617/D98SM6BO0.html There is no such thing as gay rights - just human rights - what I think they mean is gay privledge - I thought privledge was for lawyers? Pandering - polling and telling everyone what they want to hear is the base for so-called democratic politics. Obama will urge everyone to have patience with the new administration...he will urge this right to the bitter end with no results and deliver the voters exactly what they always get - nothing! What did they expect - This is America a nation of highly skilled decievers and confidence men. First they gain your confidence - then "stab you in the back" - It's called war - war on those abroad and war on your own people - It's the American way.. Quote
Guthrie Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 Obama's approval rating would have to slip by 60% before it reaches the ratings of all the top Republicans put together --- it is an interesting irony that the most vociferous of Obama's attackers are also, according to the American public, the lowest rated or worst politicians/pundits Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Oleg Bach Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 Obama's approval rating would have to slip by 60% before it reaches the ratings of all the top Republicans put together --- it is an interesting irony that the most vociferous of Obama's attackers are also, according to the American public, the lowest rated or worst politicians/pundits Trouble in paradise? -- Obama is not Jesus? dear me - what are we to do? Seems hat Obama attackers are becoming very unpopular and Obama supporters are becoming very unpopular - the only one popular is him...this is not working out according to plan... Quote
Guthrie Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 Trouble in paradise? -- Obama is not Jesus? dear me - what are we to do? Seems hat Obama attackers are becoming very unpopular and Obama supporters are becoming very unpopular - the only one popular is him...this is not working out according to plan... well, no, actually that's not true Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Oleg Bach Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 well, no, actually that's not true Who said I was being truthful or even informed? I was just typing away....and knew I did not read the material fully - I guess scanning leads to misinformation - and that leads to un-truths...Just like a big buisness guy said - "I can tell who read the materal and who did not" In other words - who did their job. Quote
GostHacked Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 President Obama is losing ground in the ratings game......now he is making the same mistake as Clinton...getting bogged down in gay rights. ...The results come after weeks of Republican hammering of Mr. Obama for spending too much and taking on too many issues, arguments that appear to be resonating with some voters. Mr. Obama's overall job approval and personal ratings have slipped, particularly among independent voters. His job approval rating now stands at 56%, down from 61% in April. Among independents, it dropped from nearly two-to-one approval to closely divided. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245275180...tml#mod=testMod He has to loose half of that 56% to be considered worse than Bush. Patience he has 3.5 years to go. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Posted June 18, 2009 He has to loose half of that 56% to be considered worse than Bush. Patience he has 3.5 years to go. At this rate he will not need 3.5 years.....and Obama will never enjoy President Bush's highest rating of 89%...the best for any American president for such polls. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Posted June 18, 2009 Obama's approval rating would have to slip by 60% before it reaches the ratings of all the top Republicans put together --- it is an interesting irony that the most vociferous of Obama's attackers are also, according to the American public, the lowest rated or worst politicians/pundits This doesn't make any sense...do the math. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
sharkman Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 I wonder what Bush's ratings were after his first 5 months in office. Obama seems to be slipping early in spite of the MSM worshipping his every move. Quote
Guthrie Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 I wonder what Bush's ratings were after his first 5 months in office. Obama seems to be slipping early in spite of the MSM worshipping his every move. prior to 9/11 - Bush's ratings were in the toilet - there's nothing like an attack on American soil to rally the country behind the president -- we were all hopeful, immediately after 9/11, that Bush would be inspired to do what was right for America --- it took a while for Americans to realize, Bush produced just the exact opposite of what Americans hoped for Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
Pliny Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 prior to 9/11 - Bush's ratings were in the toilet - there's nothing like an attack on American soil to rally the country behind the president -- we were all hopeful, immediately after 9/11, that Bush would be inspired to do what was right for America --- it took a while for Americans to realize, Bush produced just the exact opposite of what Americans hoped for What were Americans hoping for? Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Bonam Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 After 9/11, striking back at the perpetrators of the attacks is exactly what people were hoping for. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Posted June 18, 2009 After 9/11, striking back at the perpetrators of the attacks is exactly what people were hoping for. Yes, that is exactly what people were hoping for...action. Obama is only peddling hope so far. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Posted June 18, 2009 prior to 9/11 - Bush's ratings were in the toilet - Nonsense.....Bush's ratings were not "in the toilet"....because if they were, Obama is also about to be flushed. Here are the actual polling data: http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 prior to 9/11 - Bush's ratings were in the toilet You're either ignorant or lying. Pick one. In a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll taken just before the 2001 attacks, 51% of Americans said they approved of his performance LA Times Sorry my ignorant or lying friend. But a 51% approval rating isn't in the toilet. Quote
Guthrie Posted June 18, 2009 Report Posted June 18, 2009 You're either ignorant or lying. Pick one.In a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll taken just before the 2001 attacks, 51% of Americans said they approved of his performance LA Times Sorry my ignorant or lying friend. But a 51% approval rating isn't in the toilet. your foul insult is just that far off base -- his rating, prior to 9/11 was hovering at 50% http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6038436.stm http://politicalarithmetik.blogspot.com/20...-bush-2001.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gallup_P...orge_W_Bush.png and, apparently, you didn't even read your own source -- http://articles.latimes.com/2003/oct/02/na...na-tumble2?pg=2 which says the same thing Quote “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal” - Benjamin Spock MD
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Posted June 19, 2009 his rating, prior to 9/11 was hovering at 50% If 50% is toilet territory, Obama better load up on toilet paper. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 If 50% is toilet territory, Obama better load up on toilet paper. And where did Bush end up in the ratings at the end of his term? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Posted June 19, 2009 And where did Bush end up in the ratings at the end of his term? Which one? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 Which one? Smart ass - your getting gleefully flighty my friend - now answer the students question! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Posted June 19, 2009 Smart ass - your getting gleefully flighty my friend - now answer the students question! I gave him the chart several posts ago.....maybe he didn't see it. Grade = F Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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