Jews fleeing France again

[Argus]

Is what we are seeing in Europe an advance screening of what we can look forwrd to in Canada as Muslim numbers here continue to rise? We've already seen troubling indications of the depths of violence and anti-Semitism among some of our new "Canadians" including firebombing of schools and temples.

I asked Pierre how long he would be visiting the States. His answer startled me. He said that he was here to stay, for good, that he was here with his daughter, his girlfriend, and his dog, and that he expects his son to soon join them.

A Frenchman in Exile

From a link on the site

In January of 2006, Ilan Halimi was brutally tortured for three full weeks in Paris by gangs of African Muslim immigrant torturers. The media did not describe them as “Muslims,” but rather as “youth,” “militants,” “gang-members, “immigrants,” and “immigrants from Africa.” Neighbors took turns and joined in torturing Halimi. Other neighbors heard his screams and did nothing. Some came to watch.

Jewish man tortured to death in Paris

Since 2000, nearly 40 percent of Noisy-le-Sec’s school-aged Jewish families have pulled their children from area public schools and enrolled them in Jewish institutions, Fellous says.

He attributes the shift to the area’s general anti-Jewish environment and specific incidents students have encountered, such as being beaten up and subjected to insults and taunts. Many regularly hear the cry “dirty Jew!”

Jews Fleeing Paris Surburbs for Ghettoes

[DogOnPorch]

Not only Jews have problems...any woman that doesn't want to live in the 7th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samira_Bellil

[Argus]

Not only Jews have problems...any woman that doesn't want to live in the 7th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samira_Bellil

Yes, and not only in France. Doing a brief google on it turned up the following:

According to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. According to these statistics, almost half of all perpetrators are immigrants. In Norway and Denmark, we know that non-Western immigrants, which frequently means Muslims, are grossly overrepresented on rape statistics. In Oslo, Norway, immigrants were involved in two out of three rape charges in 2001. The numbers in Denmark were the same, and even higher in the city of Copenhagen with three out of four rape charges

Jihad through Rape

Unveiled women who get raped deserve it.

That's the pedagogy preached by the Mufti of Australia, Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali, who recently sparked an international stir by pronouncing that women who do not veil themselves, and allow themselves to be "uncovered meat", are at fault if they are raped.

This is nothing new, of course, and it is somewhat mysterious why the Sheikh's comments have caused any shock at all, since his view is legitimized by various Islamic texts and numerous social and legal Islamic structures. And that is why back in September 2004 in Denmark, al-Hilali's Australian counterpart, the Mufti Shahid Mehdi, declared exactly the same thing, stating that unveiled women are "asking for rape."

All of this, in turn, explains the skyrocketing epidemic of Muslim rape in non-Islamic countries. Muslim newcomers are significantly overrepresented among convicted rapists and rape suspects throughout European nations such as Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Scandinavia.

Muslim Rape, Feminist Silence

Edited April 11, 2009 by Argus

[ironstone]

I remember reading a column by Eric Margolis a few years ago in which he claimed that by the year 2050 or so,France's population will have a majority that is....Muslim!I'm guessing this is mostly because of unrestricted immigration from the Middle East and the skyrocketing birthrate of those that make it to France.I apologize for my french,but you can eventually say "au revoir "to France as the world knows it.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I remember reading a column by Eric Margolis a few years ago in which he claimed that by the year 2050 or so,France's population will have a majority that is....Muslim!I'm guessing this is mostly because of unrestricted immigration from the Middle East and the skyrocketing birthrate of those that make it to France.I apologize for my french,but you can eventually say "au revoir "to France as the world knows it.

I believe the greatest source of Muslim immigration to europe is North Africa.

But in the end the result is the same.

[eyeball]

I believe the greatest source of Muslim immigration to europe is North Africa.

But in the end the result is the same.

'History is made in bed, but nowadays the beds are getting closer together. We are mixing into a global mass, and the future is brown.

'So, if you are worried about what Utopia is going to be like, don't. At least in the developed world, and at least for the time being, you are living in it now.'

Source

Its time to get with the program and embrace the horror Jerry. Live with it.

Edited April 12, 2009 by eyeball

[JerrySeinfeld]

Its time to get with the program and embrace the horror Jerry. Live with it.

Islam isn't a race, my uninformed friend.

This topic has nothing to do with race, it has to do with midieval barbaric religious traditions an how they're becoming the mainstream in European countries, scaring off many civilized peoples.

[eyeball]

Islam isn't a race, my uninformed friend.

This topic has nothing to do with race, it has to do with midieval barbaric religious traditions an how they're becoming the mainstream in European countries, scaring off many civilized peoples.

The reason most people are fleeing Africa for Europe is same reason Europeans fled Europe for other parts of the world, to escape the midievalism of their home countries. I suppose its as natural to expect a certain amount of this will leak in with the immigrants, just like it leaked out of Europe with its migrants.

I simply mentioned the end result when you steered the discussion towards birth-rates.

[GostHacked]

Well, as long it is the jews they are bothering and not us Atheists .. then I really don't have a problem

[Argus]

The reason most people are fleeing Africa for Europe is same reason Europeans fled Europe for other parts of the world, to escape the midievalism of their home countries.

That's not actually true in either case. People did not flood into North America from Europe to "escape" the cultures of their homelands, but in hopes of a more prosperous life here. Oh there were some refugees amongst them, to be sure, but the great bulk of them were simply after a more prosperous (read being able to eat regularly) life for themselves and their families.

That is also true today. Few people leave the middle east or North Africa because they are disgusted with their home cultures. They come here because we're a far richer society, and they believe they can have more prosperous lives here. They bring their cultures with them, cultures which often believe women are basically cattle, and that homosexuals should be killed on sight.

Jews are not the only group in France under attack by Muslims. Women and gays are also experiencing increasing violence, and in Nordic countries - where they actually try to keep such statistics - anywhere from half to two-thirds of all arrested rapists are Muslim immigrants, with rape rates skyrocketing.

[tango]

I believe the increase in anti-Jew sentiment is due to Israel's occupation and oppression and excessive violence against the Palestinians in Gaza.

I'm not defending it, but I think that's where it's coming from.

[JerrySeinfeld]

That's not actually true in either case. People did not flood into North America from Europe to "escape" the cultures of their homelands, but in hopes of a more prosperous life here. Oh there were some refugees amongst them, to be sure, but the great bulk of them were simply after a more prosperous (read being able to eat regularly) life for themselves and their families.

That is also true today. Few people leave the middle east or North Africa because they are disgusted with their home cultures. They come here because we're a far richer society, and they believe they can have more prosperous lives here. They bring their cultures with them, cultures which often believe women are basically cattle, and that homosexuals should be killed on sight.

Jews are not the only group in France under attack by Muslims. Women and gays are also experiencing increasing violence, and in Nordic countries - where they actually try to keep such statistics - anywhere from half to two-thirds of all arrested rapists are Muslim immigrants, with rape rates skyrocketing.

Exactly. Or as Oscar van den Boogaard, a dutch gay humanist said not too long ago after being beaten and having his gay restaurant vandalized by exciteable "youths" (read: young muslims in Amsterdam):

"I was only good at enjoying my freedom, never fighting for it"

When describing the impending tyranny of an ever growing, extremely confident muslim immigrant population's intolerance for women's gays and human rights.

[eyeball]

I for one think the world will be a far better world when everyone is brown. I bet it would be even better if everyone was a brown homosexual woman.

[ironstone]

I believe the greatest source of Muslim immigration to europe is North Africa.

But in the end the result is the same.

You're absolutely right,my mistake.

[Argus]

I believe the increase in anti-Jew sentiment is due to Israel's occupation and oppression and excessive violence against the Palestinians in Gaza.

I'm not defending it, but I think that's where it's coming from.

I think that's a contributing factor - that is, the stoked up propaganda against Israel from Muslim countries, but the main reason is the rise in the number of Muslims in France - all of them immigrants from the middle east and north Africa.

We won't get into whether there is "oppression" or "excessive violence" in the area as that is another thread.

Edited April 13, 2009 by Argus

[JerrySeinfeld]

I think that's a contributing factor, but the main rason is the rise in the number of Muslims in France - all of them immigrants from the middle east and north africa.

It's not a difficult puzzle to piece together guys.

Most muslims hate jews. There are ever more increasing numbers of Muslims in europe, also becoming ever more aggressive and confident, making the day to day lives for jews in europe ever more hostile.

Now substitute the words "gays" and "women" for "jews" in the above statement and you've got a pretty clear picture of the future of europe.

I've been posting about this stuff on this website for years. It's good to see that others are finally catching up.

Just think, in about 10 years (by the time it's too late), some lefties might actually catch on - that is, if their not doing their very best "Obama" impersonation, running around apologizing to and praising Islam.

[Argus]

It's not a difficult puzzle to piece together guys.

Most muslims hate jews. There are ever more increasing numbers of Muslims in europe, also becoming ever more aggressive and confident, making the day to day lives for jews in europe ever more hostile.

Now substitute the words "gays" and "women" for "jews" in the above statement and you've got a pretty clear picture of the future of europe.

I've been posting about this stuff on this website for years. It's good to see that others are finally catching up.

Just think, in about 10 years (by the time it's too late), some lefties might actually catch on - that is, if their not doing their very best "Obama" impersonation, running around apologizing to and praising Islam.

No. The Lefties haven't even caught on in Europe. They're still frantically defending Islamism and all that it entails as nothing more than cultural practices we ought not to judge. I don't think the lefties will really begin to understand what is happening until the Muslim populations grow strong enough to start imposing their will in the ballot box and electing politicians who roll back womens rights, gay rights, and freedom of speech and religion. When homosexuality becomes a crime the Lefties will finally gape and say "Hey, what's going on?"

[Argus]

I for one think the world will be a far better world when everyone is brown. I bet it would be even better if everyone was a brown homosexual woman.

The only problem with that idea is the brown people think Homosexuals should all be killed - as painfully as possible.

[capricorn]

When homosexuality becomes a crime the Lefties will finally gape and say "Hey, what's going on?"

The left aligning with radical Islamists is fraught with danger.

James Clark is a high-ranking member of the Canadian Peace Alliance. Ali Fayyad is a high-ranking member of Hizb'allah, the Lebanese terrorist organization. One might think Clark and Fayyad would be natural foes, since Clark rejects political violence and Fayyad supports suicide bombing. But Clark was one of 20 Canadians who took part in a conference in Egypt in late March that focused on uniting the left with Islamist extremists, and featured Fayyad and other terrorists.

The 5th Cairo Conference: Towards an International Alliance against Imperialism and Zionism was held at the Egyptian Press Syndicate, March 29-April 1. It was organized by the Egyptian wing of the International Campaign against U.S. and Zionist Occupation, a group comprised of members from Egypt's opposition parties.

One of those parties is the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist extremist group originating in 1928. "The Brotherhood is the first, the oldest, the most influential Islamist organization," says Steven Brooke, a research associate at the Nixon Center, a Washington-based foreign policy think-tank. The Brotherhood was a pioneer in combining opposition to western imperialism with a call for Islamic revival.

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The Brotherhood co-hosted the Cairo conference, dispensing pamphlets, providing firebrand lecturers, and handing out CDs translated into English. A Brotherhood student activist described the purpose of the conference: "The left thought Islam was just an anachronism, while Muslims accused the left of trying to destroy their way of life. However, with both sides being repressed by dictatorship, we are able to co-operate now on the basis of human rights and the fight against the war in Iraq and globalization. Such Latin American leaders as Hugo Chavez have accelerated the co-operation, reaching out to the Muslim resistance."

But such co-operation will not be easy for left-wingers. The Brotherhood remains a profoundly illiberal movement. Its motto: "Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Koran is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope." A Brotherhood document states, "It is agreed upon that a woman cannot occupy . . . the presidency or head of state . . . we do not call for immodesty and free mixing of the sexes."

http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/article.php?id=2529

Working together toward polar social objectives? It's a head scratcher.

[KrustyKidd]

The left aligning with radical Islamists is fraught with danger.

Of course however, it is a natural position for the Left to take. Until of course, Muslims come into power and conduct repressive policies.

Working together toward polar social objectives? It's a head scratcher.

No it's not. The Left is by nature a backer of the underdog. At present and prior, it has been Muslims. When people begin to be imprisoned, killed, exiled then they will find the new underdog to back.

[tango]

The left aligning with radical Islamists is fraught with danger.

That, of course, is ridiculous and you know it. At least I hope you do!

No one aligns themselves with "radical Islamists".

However, many people on the right and the left and in the centre separate ourselves from those who generalize from "radical Islamists" to all Muslim people.

See, that generalization is racism, and that's a no win.

You may now return to your regular bullshit program.

Edited April 13, 2009 by tango

[kimmy]

That, of course, is ridiculous and you know it. At least I hope you do!

No one aligns themselves with "radical Islamists".

The left do not align themselves with Islamists or conservative Muslims.

Rather, the left apologize for them, rationalize their behavior, or deny that it even exists.

"oh, that's just one Imam..."

"oh, they're probably just mad about the attack on Gaza..."

"oh, they're probably just reacting to racists..."

"oh, this is being blown out of proportion because they're brown... if white Christians did something like that, people wouldn't think it was a big deal."

"oh yeah, well the Israeli Defense Force did something way worse last month..."

(etc.)

I think most who've been around this forum for a while will recognize all of that.

-k

[tango]

You are missing the point.

What we oppose is the discrimination we see and hear among people who dismiss all Muslims as terrorists.

That's just bonkers!

Should I disrespect all Christians because some are terrorists?

(And see my post in 'beheading' thread.)

[eyeball]

When homosexuality becomes a crime the Lefties will finally gape and say "Hey, what's going on?"

Yeah and you bigots will be saying "right on its about time".

[KrustyKidd]

What we oppose is the discrimination we see and hear among people who dismiss all Muslims as terrorists.

Myself, I oppose Qutbists who are by religion believers in the Muslim faith although not all Muslims are Qutbists. In fact, less than one tenth of a percent of Muslims are Qutbists however, all Qutbists are Muslim extremists.

Wondering, 'we' being who and, do you speak for all those 'we?'