Plains of Abraham re-enactment cancelled

Leafless · February 21, 2009

Compared to Europeans, we Canadians (and North Americans in general) are a civilized lot. We may argue but we don't slaughter each other as uncivilized, violent Europeans often do.

Maybe English speaking Canadians are but I know French Canadians are not.

The Front de libération du Québec (Québec Liberation Front), commonly known as the FLQ, was a nationalist and Marxist revolutionary group in Quebec, Canada with at least two terrorist cells[1]. It was responsible for more than 200 bombings, including the bombing of the Montreal Stock Exchange in 1969 and the deaths of at least five people. These attacks culminated in 1970 with what is known as the October Crisis, in which British Trade Commissioner James Cross was kidnapped and Quebec Labour Minister Pierre Laporte was murdered.

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whowhere · February 21, 2009

Lafayette never spearheaded any mission to 'rescue' New France. The misguided mission by some continental army officers was to add Canada to its territory and failed miserably due to lack of funds and manpower. Lafayette was exonerated from culpability for the failure.

That why he trying to Free Canada from British occupation. He wasn't doing it for the United States.

Of course Canada was ceded to England. Canada was a colony of France, not an independent nation, and became a colony of England.

And when did Canada become an independent Country from England?

The Americans invaded in the War of 1812-14. That invasion was the result of trade disputes between Britain and America in the West Indies.

Sure you keep telling yourself that.

Canada became a nation in 1867 when Quebec joined in confederation to protect herself from another American invasion. The Quebecois knew that they would never get the concessions they enjoyed under the Quebec Act if they were annexed to America, and it was in their interests to build a strong Canada capable of repelling another American invasion.

Right......Quebec had no say in the matter. They were forced into confederation by the British Monarch.

Your knowledge of history, in particular the history of New France from 1759 onward is abysmal. A proud people have created a unique monument to French culture over a period of two and a half centuries without aid from France or anywhere else except for the other provinces of Canada. You should take pride in the existence of a modern French speaking province unlike any other place outside of France.

Just like the Chinese in Hong Kong were proud of their British Occupiers. Like India was proud of of British Occupation.

Other former colonies of France pale in comparison. You are so busy studying your navel that you fail to see the accomplishments of the Quebecois within confederation. I regret that you are intent on rewriting history as some fantastic fantasy. By so doing, you are failing the Quebecois and inviting scorn from those who should be admiring their achievements.

You are rewriting History. Fact is, whatever Canada's population before 1774 (American Independence) is irrelevant because the rest of Canada was unpopulated. Quebec was permitted to carry on as it did under British Occupation after 1759. The fact is what is now Ontario wasn't much of a population, mostly an empty field and zero population. After the US gained Independence all the American traitors (British Loyalists) made their home in Ontario. Quebec's population was ever increasing and they were prospering. To Rival this Growth the British Crown brought in millions of people from other commonwealth Countries. In spite of this Quebec still continued to Grow in population in comparison to the rest of Canada.

Without British support following the Seven Year's War and the Treaty of Paris, the Quebecois whose ancestors had not starved to death would be speaking English and singing the American anthem today. It is time you grew up and learned to dance with the lady who brought you to the ball.

The United States is Lucky Napoleon never directed his Army at the US instead of Russia. Napoleon was vain and about himself and power. Me, I am about Truth and Power. I am both of english and french ancestory. I am both of protestant and catholic ancestory. Both these ancestory geneology roads lead back to the Roman Empire. The letters I use, is of Rome. They are not english nor french.

It comes to the Character of those involved. The US is guilty of contributing to the Collapse of the Ancien Regime - "God's Christian Kingdom on Earth" by Bankrupting France. Out of this Bankruptcy Napoleon rose and crushed the Ancien Regime. He wreaked havoc on Europe for 30 years. This all ties to the helping the United States?

Why and for what reason would France bankrupt itself? France wanted Canada back. They tried to defend Canada during the Seven Year War but was Blocked from doing so. France supported the American Independence through money, military resources, and the crucial military muscles of their ships which secured their independence. Lafayette made a final attempt to Capture Canada but failed. King Louis XV has documented diologue about Canada with another King on the subject of Canada which shows he wanted Canada.

Bury the truth, because it is sustained and can be found in the Archives of Europe and the Founding documents of the United States.

You want history it can't be in vain at Quebec's expense. Imposing and strong arming a region is no way to build a United Country but that is Canada incepted in 1867. Canada should have done more to bridge the gaps and created unity instead of trying to crush Quebec.

The Fact is, you people have no Religion, no language, and not much of a culture.

CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

Thanks to the forced participation of Canadian tax payers and federal transfer payments along with a multitude of federal subsidies.

I forgot... it's federal subsidies that got the Acadians through the Deportation.

Thanks to the efforts of communist inspired Quebecer Pierre Trudeau for forcing Quebec ideologies onto the ROC along with his his anti-Canadian actions while acting under the capacity of prime minister of Canada.

Thanks for reminding me that I am not Canadian and do not pay taxes. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

Yes, the feds do keep forgetting Canada is a Constitutional Monarchy with a Westminster style Parliamentary Democracy.

Considering this is what we have, this shows AGAIN how clueless you are.

CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

Just like the Chinese in Hong Kong were proud of their British Occupiers. Like India was proud of of British Occupation.

Nope, and if you had a brain you'd get it.

The letters I use, is of Rome. They are not english nor french.

And the language you are writing in is...?

King Louis XV has documented diologue about Canada with another King on the subject of Canada which shows he wanted Canada.

The year being?

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WestViking · February 21, 2009

That why he trying to Free Canada from British occupation. He wasn't doing it for the United States.

Lafayettte most certainly was working for the US. George Washington was not fighting for the French.

And when did Canada become an independent Country from England?

For the most part, 1867, completely on December 11, 1931.

Right......Quebec had no say in the matter. They were forced into confederation by the British Monarch.

Obviously you are unaware of the 1864 Quebec Conference where Quebec was represented by George-Étienne Cartier, Jean-Charles Chapais, Thomas D'Arcy McGee, Alexander Tilloch Galt, Hector-Louis Langevin and Étienne-Paschal Taché.

WestViking · February 21, 2009

Many people are confused? Including you.
Canada's history predates Confederation. French and British monarchs may have ostensibly enacted our constitutions for the past three centuries, but people organized life here even before the European monarchs got involved.

Compared to Europeans, we Canadians (and North Americans in general) are a civilized lot. We may argue but we don't slaughter each other as uncivilized, violent Europeans often do.

North Dakota doesn't attack Manitoba while Colorado stands aside to watch. (In 1939, Germany attacked Poland and Britain and France watched. Or what of Yugoslavia?)

The US Civil War is the one violent experience in North/South America's history. In comparison, Europeans are uncivilized, violent heathens who wage constant wars.

1629 - David Kirk captures Quebec for the British.

1632 - Treaty of Saint-Germaine-en-Laye - Quebec is returned to France

1637 - Kirk is named Governor of Newfoundland

1686 - De Troyes and D'Iberville capture the English ports of Moose Factory, Rupert House & Fort Albany

1689 - Iroquois working with the English kill many French settlers at Lachine

1690 - Sir William Phipps captures Port Royal

1697 - Treaty of Ryswick - all captured territories are returned

1710 - Francis Nickolson captures Port Royal for the English

1713 - Treaty of Ulricht confirms British possession of Hudson's Bay, Newfoundland and Acadia (except Cape Breton Island)

1745 - Massachusettes Governor William Shirley takes the French fortress of Louisbourg

1748 - Treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle returns Loisbourg to France

1753 - George Washington's militry expedition to Monogahela is defeated by the French

1758 - Generals Amherst and Wolfe take Louisbourg

1758 - General Wolfe takes Quebec.

1763 - Treaty of Paris - France ceded North American possessions to Britain

1775 - American under Montgomery capture Montreal and lay siege to Quebec City

1776 - British fleet appears and Montgomery withdraws

1812 - American General William Hull invades Canada - Battle of Queenston Heights - Canadian victory

1813 - Americans burn Your (now Toronto)

1813 - Battle of Stony Creek - Canadian victory

1813 - Battle of Beaver Dams - Canadian victory

1813 - Battle of Put-in-Bay - American victory

1813 - Battle of Moraviantown - American victory

1813 - Battle of Chateauguay - Canadian victory

1813 - Battle of Chrysler's Farm - Canadian victory

1814 - Battle of Chippewa - American victory

1814 - British force takes and burns Washington

1814 - Battle of Lake Champlain - American victory

1814 - Treaty of Ghent - war ends.

Griz · February 21, 2009

Let's just face it--Canadian History is dull and boring! Staright forward--a bunch of boat people from Europe came over in boats and settled here. IN early Canada, the winter's were harsh and many boat women didn't want to settle here--so in later years women were paid to live here and produce familes with the men from the prison camps who were forced into labor here to build the railroad. Yup--true canada was built by prisoners and women "paid" to reproduce--I think they were called Kings Daughters. Without the Indians to amuse your little minds--you'd be bored silly studying your history--now shooo back to Europe Oleg

Smallc · February 21, 2009

I find it interesting how it seems that you think its ok to insult non natives, while if the reverse happened, you would be up in arms.

CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

I find it interesting how it seems that you think its ok to insult non natives, while if the reverse happened, you would be up in arms.

Mind you, the biggest insult in his posting is towards facts.

Griz · February 21, 2009

Mind you, the biggest insult in his posting is towards facts.

What? Boat People from Europe? Prison Camps? King's Daughter's? Boring history? Harsh winters? Isn't Oleg very insulting there SmallC? What about all the other small minds?

Smallc · February 21, 2009

What about all the other small minds?

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they have a small mind.

g_bambino · February 21, 2009

Your knowledge of history, in particular the history of New France from 1759 onward is abysmal.

That is putting it very mildly.

WestViking · February 21, 2009

At the core of separatism is a spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Separatism is a philosophy of snivelling brats.

jbg · February 21, 2009

It's only a matter of time before Britain starts questioning Canada's legitamacy.

I suspect that issue was long settled with their co-membership in NATO. I suspect the UK has a lot on its plate besides a quixotic effort to retake Canada.

CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

What? Boat People from Europe? Prison Camps? King's Daughter's? Boring history? Harsh winters? Isn't Oleg very insulting there SmallC? What about all the other small minds?

Your "knowledge" of Canadian history consists of getting a few pieces of the puzzle, putting them in the wrong place, binding them out of shape until they fit, then claiming you solved the puzzle. You haven't.

jbg · February 21, 2009

It does not occur to you that the British North America Act, which is the basis of the Canadian confederation was written with a copy of the American constitution at hand.

In fact, there were problems with some of the formatting templates used in "Word 1787" (in which the U.S. Constitution was written and stored) and "Word 1866", still in use in 1867, the 1868 updates not having been posted yet. Those came in a service-pak released on February 2, 1868.

CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

At the core of separatism is a spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Separatism is a philosophy of snivelling brats.

At the core of separatism is the misguided notion that the people who have told French-speaking Canadians for over two centuries this was not their country were right.

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jbg · February 21, 2009

The US Civil War is the one violent experience in North/South America's history. In comparison, Europeans are uncivilized, violent heathens who wage constant wars.

One of the reasons for the massive "brain drain" that occurred in the latter part of the 1800's through the early 1900's from Europe to the U.S. and Canada was the disaffection, by thinking, driven (and/or drafted) people with the constant warfare, religious persecutions, class distinctions and restrictions and other assorted European nonesense.

Things are not much better now. Any improvement has come by the virtual U.S. and British (a/k/a NATO) occupation of much of Europe.

CANADIEN · February 21, 2009

In fact, there were problems with some of the formatting templates used in "Word 1787" (in which the U.S. Constitution was written and stored) and "Word 1866", still in use in 1867, the 1868 updates not having been posted yet. Those came in a service-pak released on February 2, 1868.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one.

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jbg · February 21, 2009

At the core of separatism is a spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Separatism is a philosophy of snivelling brats.

Well said.

Also, the philosophy of politically ambitious demagogues needing a smaller pond since they can't swim well enough to handle a lake.

jbg · February 21, 2009

In fact, there were problems with some of the formatting templates used in "Word 1787" (in which the U.S. Constitution was written and stored) and "Word 1866", still in use in 1867, the 1868 updates not having been posted yet. Those came in a service-pak released on February 2, 1868.

:lol: Good one.

Specifically, the quill pen cursive font used in Word 1787 was corrupted in Word 1866. This was fixed in the service-pak.

jbg · February 22, 2009

At the core of separatism is the misguided notion that the people who have told French-speaking Canadians for over two centuries this was not their country were right.

Canada is the country of people who speak English, people who speak French, and both. All are (or should be Canadians, not Francophones or Anglophones. This was or should have been settled in 1759.

Oleg Bach · February 22, 2009

Canada is the country of people who speak English, people who speak French, and both. All are (or should be Canadians, not Francophones or Anglophones. This was or should have been settled in 1759.

To have pandered to the French was very dishonest - but the British were never known for their sincerity -- It was a mistake and now we have a nation jammed into the centre of another nation...no other country on earth has been so stupid to attempt to have a foriegn object lodged in the core of the national body - with out constant infection and continued rejection taking place - It will be never ending - time to stop talking about it and let the people evolve - into one.

jbg · February 22, 2009

To have pandered to the French was very dishonest - but the British were never known for their sincerity -- It was a mistake and now we have a nation jammed into the centre of another nation...no other country on earth has been so stupid to attempt to have a foriegn object lodged in the core of the national body - with out constant infection and continued rejection taking place - It will be never ending - time to stop talking about it and let the people evolve - into one.

Applause.

For once, a rational, well thought out post from you.