M.Dancer Posted December 17, 2008 Report Posted December 17, 2008 Odd trade... Thank you.. thank you.. thank you.... Gosh I wish I wrote that... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted December 17, 2008 Author Report Posted December 17, 2008 Sure do, they were my "gateway drug" when I was a kid, countless hours of fun winding up the rubber band for a short flight.From there I went to Balsa and tissue models then on to the tethered planes that had little Cox glow plug engines and flew in circles around you. Finally I moved on to remote control planes, my last one was a Stuka with a 60" wing span, I gave it to a friend for his little boy. Similar childhood, then. Mine was a Bf-110 with about a 48 inch wingspan. It broke into a thousand pieces... Funny last bit, I agree. ------------------------------------------ Boy for sale! Boy for sale! ---Principal Skinner: The Simpsons Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted December 17, 2008 Report Posted December 17, 2008 My favorite air craft when I was a kid was the kite - I always dreamed of making a huge one and sending my little brother aloft. Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted December 17, 2008 Report Posted December 17, 2008 Odd trade... Smartass. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Oleg Bach Posted December 17, 2008 Report Posted December 17, 2008 My older brother was a bit of chemist as a kid and would construct rockets....they were great...never flew just left a bomb crater.. Awh the good old days when kids could have fun and no one called the cops. Quote
Wilber Posted December 19, 2008 Report Posted December 19, 2008 Stuka dive bomber, hands down. Very accurate dive bomber and excellent tank buster with 37mm cannon but helpless in the face of real fighter opposition. The Germans withdrew them almost immediately after the start of the Battle of Britain because they were getting slaughtered by fighters. The JU88 was hands down the best all round German aircraft of WW2. Their Mosquito in some respects. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Posted December 30, 2008 Very accurate dive bomber and excellent tank buster with 37mm cannon but helpless in the face of real fighter opposition. The Germans withdrew them almost immediately after the start of the Battle of Britain because they were getting slaughtered by fighters. The JU88 was hands down the best all round German aircraft of WW2. Their Mosquito in some respects. As mentioned, the Stuka enjoyed an extended life on the Russian Front. In 1939, however, there was nuthin' else like it. A Blitzkrieg essential. The top dog in ground attack aircraft of WW2 would still be the IL-2 in my opinion. Flying tanks...thousands of 'em. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-2 ------------------------------------------------------- They are as essential to the Red Army as air and bread (The IL-2 Sturmovik). ---Stalin Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
AngusThermopyle Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 The top dog in ground attack aircraft of WW2 would still be the IL-2 in my opinion. Flying tanks...thousands of 'em. No doubt at all. But...when the fighters came in they did still go down in large numbers. Thats why I have to mention once again one of my all time favourite aircraft, the Dehavilland Mosquito. This plane was without dispute the most verstile mass produced aircraft of WWII. Not only could they serve as thier own fighter escort but on return from a bombing mission they could also become fighter interceptors. It served as a bomber, a ground attack aircraft, a fighter, a night fighter, a bomber escort/light bomber, a naval attack bomber,naval torpedo attack plane and several other variants. All from a plane built from Plywood. It also gained a reputation as a plane that was hard to shoot down, a reputation rightly earned. Mosquitos delivered the Dam Busters, they were the only aircraft that could carry those bombs and still be deadly enough to deliver their cargo. She's very nice Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Posted December 31, 2008 I have to agree re: the Mosquito. A very potent aircraft. They used it on that one raid where POWs were sprung from an SS prison by skip bombing (on the ground!) high explosives right into the prison walls and SS guardhouses. ---------------------------- Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Posted December 31, 2008 Here we go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Jericho ------------------------------------ Ho-Ho-Ho...Green Giant. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Moonlight Graham Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 B-2 stealth bomber, cuz it just looks so badass. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
AngusThermopyle Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 B-2 stealth bomber, cuz it just looks so badass. You're right, in a way. It still has to prove itself thought. Many of the planes previously mentioned here have done so time and time again already. The B-2's utillity is still basically unproven and as such it remains a highly specialized and very very expensive weapons delivery system. Having said that, the B-2 is in a new class all of its own, fly very high with very low signature and drop a large and lethal load undetected. What you have to ask at that point is the question...is it worth the cost for the benefits it grants? Would not 20 or so fighter bombers with advanced stealth/avionics technology be more usefull? Compared to one B-2 for the same price? The eternal question. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Wilber Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 The Mosquito has to be one of the greatest designs ever. Unarmed bomber, pathfinder, courier and photo reconnaissance aircraft, night fighter, intruder, anti shipping, ground attack, tank buster, you name it. It was even flown off carriers. Beautiful to look at, a perfect example of form following function. The Wooden Wonder. Not just the Amiens prison raid but pinpoint low level raids on Gestapo buildings in the center of Copenhagen, Oslo, Aarhus and The Hague. The only place it came unstuck was in South East Asia where the humidity and fungus attacked the animal based glues in use at the time. Not bad for a privately conceived aircraft first drawn on the floor of a shop next to DeHavilland's house, the same building where the first two prototypes were built. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Rue Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) I have to agree re: the Mosquito. A very potent aircraft. They used it on that one raid where POWs were sprung from an SS prison by skip bombing (on the ground!) high explosives right into the prison walls and SS guardhouses.---------------------------- My father flew one in WW2 so I am bias and would agree with you. Honourable mention to the Arrow, Spitfire, Kfir Jet Fighter, F-14, and the good old Sea Otter-all for the same reasons-excellent design. The most bad ass looking one is the tank busting wart hog from Desert Storm. You want ugly its ugly. Edited January 3, 2009 by Rue Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Posted January 6, 2009 My father flew one in WW2 so I am bias and would agree with you. Honourable mention to the Arrow, Spitfire, Kfir Jet Fighter, F-14, and the good old Sea Otter-all for the same reasons-excellent design.The most bad ass looking one is the tank busting wart hog from Desert Storm. You want ugly its ugly. Your Dad was in Bomber Command, too? Cool. My Dad and his brothers all were. Halifaxes and Lancasters. Dad was too young to see any combat (the war ended during training) but the rest did the night-time raids into Germany. --------------------------------------- It's a Daisy. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
penorsword Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 mine would have to be Willie Nelson's bio-diesel plane. It may be a pos for all i know, but it's ecologically more friendly and the smoking section would make the flight a lot quicker:) Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 9, 2009 Author Report Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) mine would have to be Willie Nelson's bio-diesel plane. It may be a pos for all i know, but it's ecologically more friendly and the smoking section would make the flight a lot quicker:) Here's an oddball. The Pzl-11 (Polish). It did pretty well vs the Luftwaffe mainly due to the skill of the Polish pilots. Many of Poland's fighter pilots escaped to form squadrons in England just in time for the BoB. http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com/pzl11/pzl11.htm ---------------------------------------- Senior civil servant: Churchill puts great faith in radar. Air Chief Marshall Sir Hugh Dowding: It's vital, but it won't shoot down aircraft. Edited January 9, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Just found this amazing Sukhoi Video posted on another site. If you ever get a chance to see one of these perform, don't miss it. I've never seen a fighter do so much of its show without leaving the airport boundary. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
AngusThermopyle Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 It is amazing what that machine can do, I love the "Cobra" manouver. It provides a very graphic example of why the Russians have always been considered leaders in certain aspects of the aerospace industry. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Wilber Posted January 28, 2009 Report Posted January 28, 2009 Out take from a Speed Vision show. I believe it was shown but minus the salty language (disclamer). May have posted this before.Spitfire Pass Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Posted February 28, 2009 Excellent and rare footage of B-36 Peacemaker operations in Alaska as well as a test bed for the B-58 Hustler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIKVBPVmeHo ------------------------------------------ The first lesson is that you can't lose a war if you have command of the air, and you can't win a war if you haven't. ---Jimmy Doolittle Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Great vid. Awesome aircraft in spite of itself. Quite an operation keeping those six piston engines warm enough to start in a Fairbanks winter. Believe it or not the original B-36's had a single wheel main landing gear. One great honkin wheel on each side. They thought better of it when it came to the production models. Sure looks like a B-58 underneath. Too big to be anything else and you can see the attach points for the four engine pylons. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Great vid. Awesome aircraft in spite of itself. Quite an operation keeping those six piston engines warm enough to start in a Fairbanks winter. Believe it or not the original B-36's had a single wheel main landing gear. One great honkin wheel on each side. They thought better of it when it came to the production models. Sure looks like a B-58 underneath. Too big to be anything else and you can see the attach points for the four engine pylons. I'm a bit of a Cold War bomber fan. Yes re: the early B-36A models. The Big Wheels. The issue was only a few specially built runways could handle the ground pressure from these mammoth tires and the machine would, in theory, sink right through the tarmac at most airports. Thus the bogie wheels on later models. They were horribly underpowered for their mission with only the six-pusher props...but with the 4 GE J47s added it was quite the flying machine. A small railway connected the forward and aft compartments through the bomb bay which I thought was cool. These shots always impressed me. A B-36 Peacemaker next to a B-29 Superfortress. http://www.geocities.com/b31640/b36-3.jpg http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-36-1949.jpg Like many Cold War bombers, it never fired a shot in anger. --------------------------- It's a Daisy. Edited March 3, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Out take from a Speed Vision show. I believe it was shown but minus the salty language (disclamer). May have posted this before.Spitfire Pass Heh...yes...great vid. Seen this one? ---- Oww... Edited March 3, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Muddy Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I am no expert on Aircraft but I can comment on what I have read and limited experience on flying. The Mosquito I think was amazing along with hurricanes and Spits. The hurricane never got it`s recognition because the spit was so cool. The hurricane could take more abuse because of it`s fabric body. A patch and some glue and away it went back into action. For commercial aircraft I agree that the Super Connie was brilliant looking and I had the pleasure in flying on one belonging to KLM. Great service and comfort. The worst aircraft I flew in was a RCAF North Star. Left Calgary and landed in Germany five days later. Scarey ,noisy and rough. Quote
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