Those whackos at CNN

[HisSelf]

I can't believe what I am seeing. Yesterday, Obama was crowned the dems presidential candidate. Today I am watching Candy Crawley interview Obama on CNN and the first thing she wants to know about is his position on Jerusalem.

What a wacky world.

[Leafless]

I can't believe what I am seeing. Yesterday, Obama was crowned the dems presidential candidate. Today I am watching Candy Crawley interview Obama on CNN and the first thing she wants to know about is his position on Jerusalem.

What a wacky world.

Maybe it is you that is wacky for not keeping up to date what Obama preaches.

Palestinians slam Obama on Jerusalem remark

Palestinian leaders reacted with anger and dismay on Wednesday to Barack Obama's pledge that Jerusalem should be Israel's undivided capital.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNew...me=politicsNews

Man, that water is hot!

Edited June 5, 2008 by Leafless

[Shady]

I can't believe what I am seeing. Yesterday, Obama was crowned the dems presidential candidate. Today I am watching Candy Crawley interview Obama on CNN and the first thing she wants to know about is his position on Jerusalem.

What a wacky world.

It probably has to do with his recent speech at AIPAC, on WEDNESDAY. Let's see, that was, um, YESTERDAY.

[Kanadees]

Obama will soon enough come up with another excuse once he realizes his booboo :

"I'm shocked! I never knew! This is not the Jerusalem I know!"

Edited June 6, 2008 by Kanadees

[BC_chick]

I can't believe what I am seeing. Yesterday, Obama was crowned the dems presidential candidate. Today I am watching Candy Crawley interview Obama on CNN and the first thing she wants to know about is his position on Jerusalem.

What a wacky world.

As others have pointed out, it's because he dropped a bombshell with his revelation yesterday about an "undivided" Jerusalem under Israeli rule.

What makes it really interesting is that his stance is even more pro-Israel than Bush... or even Olmert. Jerusalem has been on the table and nobody in the international community has taken such an uncompromising position within the M.E. conflict.

Well... in his defense, he did say he wanted "change"... who knew that change would a change toward Likud policies.

[bush_cheney2004]

Excellent....Senator Obama has already dropped his first bomb and he's not even president yet. Those national security briefings are paying off.

[M.Dancer]

Excellent....Senator Obama has already dropped his first bomb and he's not even president yet. Those national security briefings are paying off.

He's almost Joe Clarkian.....how long do you think it will be before the US ambassador moves to Jerusalem?

[eyeball]

I guess change is only skin deep but the status quo goes right to the bone.

[M.Dancer]

I guess change is only skin deep but the status quo goes right to the bone.

Of course the status quo is not recognising Jerusalem as an undivided capital of Israel, which is why 99.99% of embassies are in Tel Aviv...

[eyeball]

Of course the status quo is not recognising Jerusalem as an undivided capital of Israel, which is why 99.99% of embassies are in Tel Aviv...

The status quo is sticking America's nose in other people's business, which is why 99.99% of the Middle East is in such an uproar...

[M.Dancer]

http://archives.cbc.ca/politics/prime_mini...ics/2149-13104/

[M.Dancer]

The status quo is sticking America's nose in other people's business, which is why 99.99% of the Middle East is in such an uproar...

umm...do you know what the topic is?

[eyeball]

umm...do you know what the topic is?

Yeah its about denial now.

[bush_cheney2004]

The status quo is sticking America's nose in other people's business, which is why 99.99% of the Middle East is in such an uproar...

Then why do they drive so many taxis in the USA?

[GostHacked]

Then why do they drive so many taxis in the USA?

Well we know they cannot be politicians, some people might question their religion and such. And to tell you the truth, the cabbies I encounter here in Ottawa are a majority ofLebanese and Sihk. Wait.. it is part of their plan to infiltrate the US. No one suspects the cabbie.

But there is a mentality in the US of supporting Israel right from the earliest part of the 1900's, even before Israel was 'founded' again.

http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/9257001.php

Epic Encounters

Culture, Media, and U.S. Interests in the Middle East since1945

Updated Edition, with a Post-9/11 Chapter

I read this book in about a months time, was a very good read, plenty of references. Shows a history of how media/news/governments can shape the way people think.

[bush_cheney2004]

Well we know they cannot be politicians, some people might question their religion and such. And to tell you the truth, the cabbies I encounter here in Ottawa are a majority ofLebanese and Sihk. Wait.. it is part of their plan to infiltrate the US. No one suspects the cabbie.

Ottawa is not in the USA (yet). I wonder if American "cabbies" would be so welcomed in the Middle East?

But there is a mentality in the US of supporting Israel right from the earliest part of the 1900's, even before Israel was 'founded' again.

America supports a lot of places...mostly for self interest. There seems to be an international mentality that it should be otherwise...suckers!

[HisSelf]

There is never going to be peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians as long as the US continues to mollycoddle Israel. It is one thing to provide Israel with the kind of support she needs to continue to exist as a state and another to sit on your hands while, decade after decade, she gets away with the kinds of shenanigans that she so often resorts to.

Israel is bringing the US more trouble than necessary. The pro-Israel lobby has succeeded in frightening off many who would rain her in - including George Bush Senior. Junior is of course, well, junior. The US needs an executive branch with the balls to make Israel understand it is time for the tail to stop wagging the dog.

[bush_cheney2004]

There is never going to be peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians as long as the US continues to mollycoddle Israel. It is one thing to provide Israel with the kind of support she needs to continue to exist as a state and another to sit on your hands while, decade after decade, she gets away with the kinds of shenanigans that she so often resorts to.

No, it's pretty much the same thing. Israel is a cornerstone of US policy for Middle East interests...past...present...and future.

Israel is bringing the US more trouble than necessary. The pro-Israel lobby has succeeded in frightening off many who would rain her in - including George Bush Senior. Junior is of course, well, junior. The US needs an executive branch with the balls to make Israel understand it is time for the tail to stop wagging the dog.

Why...it hasn't worked for Canada either!

[JB Globe]

Israel is a cornerstone of US policy for Middle East interests...past...present...and future.

And that's the problem.

You never give any ally a blank cheque, ever.

[HisSelf]

And that's the problem.

You never give any ally a blank cheque, ever.

Exactamundo! If the US were so interested in preserving the state of Israel, one would think it would be putting its troops on Israeli soil.

Edited June 7, 2008 by HisSelf

[bush_cheney2004]

And that's the problem.

You never give any ally a blank cheque, ever.

Yes you do....see Jimmy Carter and "peace" with Egypt and Jordan. $100 billion+ and still writing the checks.

[JB Globe]

Yes you do....see Jimmy Carter and "peace" with Egypt and Jordan. $100 billion+ and still writing the checks.

The US has exerted more pressure against both states than they have against Israel, even though Israel is the one that's been violating UN resolutions for decades now. Israel even dictates policy to the US through it's lobbying groups, can't say the same about Egypt and Jordan.

[Guest American Woman]

And that's the problem.

You never give any ally a blank cheque, ever.

Israel doesn't have a blank check. In fact, we've expected Israel to reign in their responses to terrorist attacks when I believe we would have responded strongly ourselves; we've engaged in two wars as a result of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil.

As for Israel dictating U.S. policy-- I'd be interested in which policies you're referring to.

[bush_cheney2004]

The US has exerted more pressure against both states than they have against Israel, even though Israel is the one that's been violating UN resolutions for decades now. Israel even dictates policy to the US through it's lobbying groups, can't say the same about Egypt and Jordan.

Israel doesn't dictate anything to the Unites States. But as an ally with shared interests in the region, the US will support Israel when push comes to shove....just ask Senator Obama.

Egypt and Jordan also have lobbyists with lots to do in Washington, including whining about the Israelis.

[Shady]

If the US were so interested in preserving the state of Israel

Why is the interest in preserving the state of Israel a bad thing? Not counting the emerging Iraq and Lebanon, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. And supporting democracy anywhere in the world is a good thing, not a bad thing.

Also, the meme about Israel being given a blank check is myth. Isreal is a free-market, parliamentary democracy. And because of this, it enjoys an economy many times that of it's neighbours combined. Which is the primary reason Israel has the funds to defend itself. Israel spends a large percentage of its GDP on defense, and the amount of money they spend far exceeds anything received in foreign aid from America. Those are facts. In 2004, Israel received $2.62 billion in foreign aid from America, compared to Egypt's $1.87 billion, Jordan's $560 million, Pakistan's $390 million, and Turkey's $150 million. America gives foreign aid money to most countries in the Middle East, aside from Syria and Iran.