Community Advocate Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The poverty industry really doesn't want poverty to go away because ultimately it would be out of a job. Pardon my ignorance, but can you tell me more about this poverty industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Life isn't about a computer simulation. It is real and potentially fatal. wrong. Life is always fatal - not potentionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 wrong. Life is always fatal - not potentionally. What's this death worship negative "life is always fatal"? - life is not fatal - death is fatal...now get it straight. The real problem is that people who are soothsayers (truth sayers) are persecuted and LIARS rule - as if telling the truth is evil - go into a corporation or a court and tell the absolute truth - and you will eventually be sleeping on a grate - How do we expect to have a good and kind society where liars are respected and bowed to and those that have justice and real social benevolence in their hearts are persected - live with that concept. Certainly there must be a few brave and good men and woman in Canada who are willing to put it all on the line for the betterment of society - well ---------------not really - that takes bravery and there are no brave ones left..they ground them all into the ground - that's the cux of it - like the mother of the stabbed angelic 14 year old natural Christian - who was killed not because she was evil but because she was good - go figure - you are all up side down - and back wards - goodness must be maintained - even if it means loosing your kids college fund - or ending up homeless - you have to stand up for human rights and basic goodness - seems no one has the guts these days - shame on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 No, if you are alive you will most certainly be dead at some pont. Hence, life is fatal. I see you have taken all of your meds too quickly again and are back spamming each and every thread going. I was missing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 No, if you are alive you will most certainly be dead at some pont. Hence, life is fatal.I see you have taken all of your meds too quickly again and are back spamming each and every thread going. I was missing you. If you are going to get into semantics -which is what you are doing - then whether or not life is fatal is all relative to your beliefs. A worm while breathing digs through the dirt digesting organic matter as he/she goes. Yet when it stops breathing, after having reproduced a couple of million times before it stopped breathing, decomposes and becomes worm food for other worms. Philosophically, the worm is still alive being propagated by its offspring, and in the guts being converted to make other worms. Since our understanding of life is still pretty limited and no one can say from experience what death really is, we can only speculate what the result is. Speculation comes from our beliefs and our understanding - both of which could be wrong. And since history has shown a need to redefine what constitutes death, going from lack of breathing, to heart stoppage, to loss of brain activity, I would just as well leave that idea open. It all comes back to this: All we know and can know is life. Death is just a concept we have placed on something we don't understand. And since there was never a time we could remember being "unborn" we can only imagine that we exist, if only in another state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 If you are going to get into semantics -which is what you are doing - then whether or not life is fatal is all relative to your beliefs. A worm while breathing digs through the dirt digesting organic matter as he/she goes. Yet when it stops breathing, after having reproduced a couple of million times before it stopped breathing, decomposes and becomes worm food for other worms. Philosophically, the worm is still alive being propagated by its offspring, and in the guts being converted to make other worms.Since our understanding of life is still pretty limited and no one can say from experience what death really is, we can only speculate what the result is. Speculation comes from our beliefs and our understanding - both of which could be wrong. And since history has shown a need to redefine what constitutes death, going from lack of breathing, to heart stoppage, to loss of brain activity, I would just as well leave that idea open. It all comes back to this: All we know and can know is life. Death is just a concept we have placed on something we don't understand. And since there was never a time we could remember being "unborn" we can only imagine that we exist, if only in another state. Man, if the Indian Treaty negotiations go like this, NO WONDER they are taking so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iForgot Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) Question - is the current generation better or worse than the last? Are they more materialistic and culture less than ever? Edited January 7, 2008 by iForgot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcinmoka Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Question - is the current generation better or worse than the last? Question - is better defined as being less "materialistic"? I would argue materialism is merely an extension of humanity's will of survival. When food and other basics were scarce, we always wished to amass as many reserves as possible should the future be less certain. Now that food or shelter are not as scarce in our society, we still have that natural drive, although it manifests itself in the form of clothes, cars, entertainment, etc. Yet these items can also be related to our will to survive however oddly they derive from the basics we once needed. i.e. Ones buys expensive clothes in the belief that one will look more attractive, or to demonstrate a particular status, all with the intent of finding a mate, or to be more appealing in ones professional or social lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Advocate Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 wrong. Life is always fatal - not potentionally. Life is like a box of chocolates, isn't it? lol Life is Like Hot Chocolate: A group of graduates, well established in their careers, were talking at a reunion and decided to go visit their old university professor, now retired. During their visit, the conversation turned to complaints about stress in their work and lives. Offering his guests hot chocolate, the professor went into the kitchen and returned with a large pot of hot chocolate and an assortment of cups - porcelain, glass, crystal, some plain looking, some expensive, some exquisite - telling them to help themselves to the hot chocolate. When they all had a cup of hot chocolate in hand, the professor said: 'Notice that all the nice looking, expensive cups were taken, leaving behind the plain and cheap ones. While it is normal for you to want only the best for yourselves, that is the source of your problems and stress. The cup that you're drinking from adds nothing to the quality of the hot chocolate. In most cases it is just more expensive and in some cases even hides what we drink. What all of you really wanted was hot chocolate, not the cup; but you consciously went for the best cups... And then you began eyeing each other's cups. Now consider this: Life is the hot chocolate; your job, money and position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold and contain life. The cup you have does not define, nor change the quality of life you have. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the hot chocolate God has provided us. God makes the hot chocolate, man chooses the cups. The happiest people don't have the best of everything. They just make the best of everything that they have. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. And enjoy your hot chocolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Life is like a box of chocolates, isn't it? lolLife is Like Hot Chocolate: A group of graduates, well established in their careers, were talking at a reunion and decided to go visit their old university professor, now retired. During their visit, the conversation turned to complaints about stress in their work and lives. Offering his guests hot chocolate, the professor went into the kitchen and returned with a large pot of hot chocolate and an assortment of cups - porcelain, glass, crystal, some plain looking, some expensive, some exquisite - telling them to help themselves to the hot chocolate. Please,please don't post this or I will make you drink beer from a styrofoam cup or eat steak off a paper plate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 How bad is current society? You tell me... ------------------------------------------- And now the really difficult part: We have to rebuild Iraq into a strong and independent nation that will one day hate the United States. ---David Letterman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 How bad is current society?You tell me... ------------------------------------------- And now the really difficult part: We have to rebuild Iraq into a strong and independent nation that will one day hate the United States. ---David Letterman Ya. I bet their parents are pleading that it was just a harmless prank by a bunch of their teens and THEIR son was just an observer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 How bad is current society? Well there seems to be a lapse in morals amongst our young, females having numerous children fathered by different fathers who never pay support or become a "Father" to those children. We support this lifestyle without a peep of complaint. The Globe ran an article on the Black Community in Toronto and it's fatherless children, it seems impregnating young women is a nobel goal parenting those children isn't part of the equation. We've become a society told to embrace all lifestyles, if we murmur a complaint we are labeled intolerant by those that engineered these social experiments. We have a segement of society that expects the government to provide for their every need, if we balk at paying for yet another lifestyle forced upon us we are again labeled intolerant. We have become a society that is willing to pay and tolerate our youth having no values or morals because that's tolerant but teaching them values and morals vis vie religion is deemed indoctorination. I see our future mirroring the Balkins, countries within countries. Because society can't keep pace with the demands of the Socialist in this country, at some point those of us forced to pay for the "Anything Goes" lifestyle will leave and take our wealth with us. It doesn't seem to matter if this country is governed by left or right, both Political Ideologies mirror each other. In order to get elected they have to appear to be socialist or left leaning, apparently Canadians want to live in a Nanny Nation where those that work the hardest are taxed to death. Who is going to pay for the socialist mantra of "Anything Goes" when the cons leave for a Democratic Country? Regarding the question of "Poverty being an industry", of course it has. Social Programs are spending more money to administer their services than they are paying to the recepients. If we decrease those using welfare programs do your honestly think the lefties working for the Government are going to allow their jobs to be redundant? I don't think so, administering these programs has become an industry onto it's self. Like any good socialist program the program becomes the primary source of revenue spent and there is less cash for the people they are suppose to help or aide. That doesn't matter to the bleeding heart socialist though, their paycheck is primary. Aiding those in need while they work a 9 to 5 career no week-ends or holidays to work. Ah a socialist dream is social work. Of course it would never accur to them that people suffer after Five pm and on week-ends and holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 The worst degeneration I find is how illiterate many have become, and how punctuation and spelling and grammar have gone right down the tubes. Good writing is a "nobel" goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Littering. Drives my crazy along with people who don't shovel their walk or put non recylable in the blue bin. ...and the use of the word props for congratulations or something...not sure what it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Advocate Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Please,please don't post this or I will make you drink beer from a styrofoam cup or eat steak off a paper plate... Well, I already did. And you can't MAKE ME do anything I don't want to do! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Pardon my ignorance, but can you tell me more about this poverty industry? I somehow missed your question. Moxie provided a very adequate response which I agree with and copy below. "Regarding the question of "Poverty being an industry", of course it has. Social Programs are spending more money to administer their services than they are paying to the recepients. If we decrease those using welfare programs do your honestly think the lefties working for the Government are going to allow their jobs to be redundant? I don't think so, administering these programs has become an industry onto it's self. Like any good socialist program the program becomes the primary source of revenue spent and there is less cash for the people they are suppose to help or aide. That doesn't matter to the bleeding heart socialist though, their paycheck is primary. Aiding those in need while they work a 9 to 5 career no week-ends or holidays to work. Ah a socialist dream is social work. Of course it would never accur to them that people suffer after Five pm and on week-ends and holidays." Thanks Moxie. I would just add that poverty advocates play with statistics in order to inflate the number of poor Canadians. This keeps them in business. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...mbers-game.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I somehow missed your question. Moxie provided a very adequate response which I agree with and copy below."Regarding the question of "Poverty being an industry", of course it has. Social Programs are spending more money to administer their services than they are paying to the recepients. If we decrease those using welfare programs do your honestly think the lefties working for the Government are going to allow their jobs to be redundant? I don't think so, administering these programs has become an industry onto it's self. Like any good socialist program the program becomes the primary source of revenue spent and there is less cash for the people they are suppose to help or aide. That doesn't matter to the bleeding heart socialist though, their paycheck is primary. Aiding those in need while they work a 9 to 5 career no week-ends or holidays to work. Ah a socialist dream is social work. Of course it would never accur to them that people suffer after Five pm and on week-ends and holidays." Thanks Moxie. I would just add that poverty advocates play with statistics in order to inflate the number of poor Canadians. This keeps them in business. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...mbers-game.aspx When something is wrong - it is illegal. When I hear the average lawyer say "It may be immoral but it is legal" - how the heck are you supposed to build a happy and just society when that is the norm - that evil is just fine and dandy..and that being lawless but calling it legal is a good thing - we get what we deserve. As far as "social work" - social workers are not allowed to call them selves social workers - they are monitary administrators - if you have not heard yet - social workers have not existed for at least 20 years - no one goes out and does good work that assists those need - they just count the money and make sure they do not lose their own jobs and end up on welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIV3LAR3VOLUTION Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 My opinion is, Canada changed to the worse when they took God out of school and discipline out of the home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 My opinion is, Canada changed to the worse when they took God out of school and discipline out of the home. Ummm....what year was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIV3LAR3VOLUTION Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Ummm....what year was that? When i went to schooll we said a prayer in the morning. Not anymore. With all due respect "are you blind"? Look at the kids nowadays. You cant tell me they've been disciplined. Something went seriously wrong somewhere, DISCIPLINE THE CHILDREN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 When i went to schooll we said a prayer in the morning. Not anymore. Wonderful news ! Teach your own kids to say a prayer, on your dime, on your own time. With all due respect "are you blind"?Look at the kids nowadays. You cant tell me they've been disciplined. Something went seriously wrong somewhere, DISCIPLINE THE CHILDREN!! You question his ability to see when it is obvious that all you see is kids misbehaving? Lots of discipline, lots of teaching going on. Let me guess, corporal punishment is what you had in mind...correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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