g_bambino Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 What sort of patriotic feelings does the maple leaf flag induce outside of the fact , yes, maple trees do grow in Canada and virtually leaves the importance of the nation and its provinces unattended. The maple leaf flag lacks character and IMO is more representative of a cartoon drawing of a maple leaf rather than providing the character and historical importance of the nation. As I've said, I'm not going to gush over the Maple Leaf flag; but it is my country's flag, and it is, in my experience, easily recognized both inside and outside of Canada. Perhaps, like most things, it has its strengths and weaknesses: it is simple and effective as an identifying symbol, which is the primary purpose of a flag; yet, it also has a weaker traditional foundation than other flags. I can't say, though, that I think of anything other than Canada when I see the Maple Leaf flag. Quote
Smallc Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 As I've said, I'm not going to gush over the Maple Leaf flag; but it is my country's flag, and it is, in my experience, easily recognized both inside and outside of Canada. Perhaps, like most things, it has its strengths and weaknesses: it is simple and effective as an identifying symbol, which is the primary purpose of a flag; yet, it also has a weaker traditional foundation than other flags. I can't say, though, that I think of anything other than Canada when I see the Maple Leaf flag. I'll gush over the flag. I love almost everything about this place. It's amazing. We are perhaps the most privileged people on earth given the fact that we can complain about the flag. The flag is really no weaker than any other, France and Italy for example. Bars of colour used in different combinations. Our flag (as you said) is one of the most recognizable on earth, and no ill will is felt towards it in most places. The flag is an extension of Canada, o country that I am very proud to live in. Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Well, I can't say I adore the flag*, but I am extremely pleased that it is my flag and I don't have to see it as some other lucky stiff's.....as it is, it is a symbol of a great nation, and as such I view it favourably. * I don't practice idolatry Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
guyser Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 What sort of patriotic feelings does the maple leaf flag induce outside of the fact , yes, maple trees do grow in Canada It reminds me of the greatest and richest hockey team in the land.............................who have been mired in a slump almost as long as I have been alive. The flag is great. Simple design, easily recognized anywhere . Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 It reminds me of the greatest and richest hockey team in the land.............................who have been mired in a slump almost as long as I have been alive. I fail to see the connection between the flag and the Montreal Canadiens, other than it is the drapeau of Canada.... ...besides 7-2-1 can hardly be called a slump...... ...oh....sorry, you said richest....you might want to edit the first adjective though, most people will assume you are talking about the HAbs. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
guyser Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 I fail to see the connection between the flag and the Montreal Canadiens, other than it is the drapeau of Canada.......besides 7-2-1 can hardly be called a slump...... ...oh....sorry, you said richest....you might want to edit the first adjective though, most people will assume you are talking about the HAbs. ......ouch.............. (the habs are second greatest) Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 ......ouch..............(the habs are second greatest) 24 Cups vs 13 Cups ..... Let the records speak Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
guyser Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 24 Cups vs 13 Cups .....Let the records speak Didnt your mom teach you not to kick a man when he is down? Comparing Cups, how harsh , how meanspirited....how how...how..true? Quote
kengs333 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 As far as I see it, attachment to the Red Ensign is based solely its sentimental Britishness; which may well be a valid arguing point. But, I certainly don't feel much passion for it. I do; time to bring it back. Quote
Smallc Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) I do; time to bring it back. So since you do, its time to bring it back. I really liked new coke. We should bring that back too. Edited November 13, 2007 by Smallc Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 Why stop at the Red Ensign? It was only used officially starting in 1924. Lets go back to the Flag we first used when Confederation dawned...not like anyone else is using it...... http://members.shaw.ca/kcic1/provflags/royalunion_flag.jpg Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
g_bambino Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 Why stop at the Red Ensign? It was only used officially starting in 1924. Lets go back to the Flag we first used when Confederation dawned...not like anyone else is using it......http://members.shaw.ca/kcic1/provflags/royalunion_flag.jpg Actually, the Royal Union Flag (in it's more modern incarnation) is an official flag of Canada. It isn't flown at certain events just to pay homage to the United Kingdom. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 13, 2007 Report Posted November 13, 2007 As a matter of EITHER the Union Jack or the Red Ensign suits me fine as it would millions of other Canadians who used either one or the other of these two fine flags, onward from 1902-1965. And what of the millions of Canadians who've never known any flag but the Maple Leaf? Restoring the old Red Ensign would be nothing more than slap in the face to pretty much everyone born after 1960, many of whom have no connection whatsoever to Canada's British heritage. Thankfully, that's not gonna happen. Quote
Moxie Posted November 14, 2007 Report Posted November 14, 2007 And what of the millions of Canadians who've never known any flag but the Maple Leaf? Restoring the old Red Ensign would be nothing more than slap in the face to pretty much everyone born after 1960, many of whom have no connection whatsoever to Canada's British heritage. Thankfully, that's not gonna happen. Good post Black Dog, I am one of those born after 1960. When I saw a moniker, on a forum, Red Ensign I thought he was a commie. The Maple Leaf is the symbol of Canada, embraced for forty years why would we want to change it. Our ties to England are our past, the Maple leaf is the present. I have no issue with our ties to the Queen but I have no desire to resurrect the dead either. When my husband was in the Military the Maple Leaf Pin was collected world wide by other Militarys. It was and is a great source of pride. Quote Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy
Guest American Woman Posted November 14, 2007 Report Posted November 14, 2007 I have to chuckle reading through this thread. It starts out with Canadians criticizing Americans for loving their flag, and ends with Canadians discussing ... loving their flag. Quote
Topaz Posted November 15, 2007 Report Posted November 15, 2007 I have to chuckle reading through this thread. It starts out with Canadians criticizing Americans for loving their flag, and ends with Canadians discussing ... loving their flag. I don't why anyone would critize any country's flag, unless it were their own. As far as Canada goes I do like our flag, I also liked the Union Jack. I think I would like to hear "The Maple Leaf Forever" played at times, besides O Canada. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 15, 2007 Report Posted November 15, 2007 I don't know why anyone would criticize another country's flag, either. And I don't know why they would criticize a nation for flying it. We should all fly our flags proudly. I don't think I've ever heard "The Maple Leaf Forever." When is that generally played? Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 15, 2007 Report Posted November 15, 2007 I don't think I've ever heard "The Maple Leaf Forever." When is that generally played? In old movies.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Leafless Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 (edited) And what of the millions of Canadians who've never known any flag but the Maple Leaf? Restoring the old Red Ensign would be nothing more than slap in the face to pretty much everyone born after 1960, many of whom have no connection whatsoever to Canada's British heritage. Thankfully, that's not gonna happen. You say Canadians born after 1960 have no connection to Canada's British heritage, FALSE. Then those Canadians must be totally ignorant of the fact Canada is STILL a Constitutional Monarchy and Queen Elizabeth is STILL the Queen of Canada and has participated in the significant events in the life of Canada. The Queen, who is fluent in both official languages, remains associated with the significant events in the life of this country and has consistently demonstrated her respect for the choices that Canadians make in shaping their future. http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/pe...narchy_15-e.htm Edited November 17, 2007 by Leafless Quote
Higgly Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 The Red Ensign I nominate this thread for the Maple Leaf Web red herring of the year award. The Queen. Like who gives a flying f*ck. LOL. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
Oleg Bach Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 Wow, that was intelligent. We don't make fun of your ceremonial institutions...oh wait....you have none No stop right there they do have a ceremonial institution. It consists of a president standing on an aircraft carrier like a knight in shinning armor arriving by a 30 million dollar fighter aircraft - that the president flew like a 3 year old kid steering the car down the back roads while sitting on dad's lap -----and standing in full glory in a flight suit made of gold fiber that was to small and riding up at the crotch -------------and the ritual chant of the hero king...."Bring it on" - or was that "gotta git that Syraneeun guy to stop that shit"....all that was left out was a crown and a kid yelling the king has bad clothes. Quote
margrace Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 I have to chuckle reading through this thread. It starts out with Canadians criticizing Americans for loving their flag, and ends with Canadians discussing ... loving their flag. Hi American Woman, you are right. When we thought our flag and our independance was being threatened we certaily showed our colours. Thank Goodness for that. We tend to not have the same revernece for the flag as the Americans but just don't push us. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 (edited) Hi American Woman, you are right. When we thought our flag and our independance was being threatened we certaily showed our colours. Thank Goodness for that. We tend to not have the same revernece for the flag as the Americans but just don't push us. Hi Margrace. I'm still chuckling because evidently Canadians' love for their flag is just that-- love for their flag; but Americans' love for their flag is "reverence." Edited November 17, 2007 by American Woman Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 18, 2007 Author Report Posted November 18, 2007 No stop right there they do have a ceremonial institution. It consists of a president standing on an aircraft carrier like a knight in shinning armor arriving by a 30 million dollar fighter aircraft - that the president flew like a 3 year old kid steering the car down the back roads while sitting on dad's lap Actually, it was a US Navy S-3 Viking (not a fighter aircraft) [Navy One], but since President Bush type qualified in the F-102 Delta Dagger, it would have been no great shakes, and not the first time he wore a flight suit. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 The Red Ensign I nominate this thread for the Maple Leaf Web red herring of the year award. The Queen. Like who gives a flying f*ck. LOL. And what does the Maple Leaf stand for? Tolerance and the land of third world immigrants. Selling out the Queen and our beloved Canadian history for Quebec and third rate immigrants. WOW! Quote
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