Army Guy

So your good with our current immigration system then, we get what we pay for.....Right, that would explain all these mistakes that have allowed criminals to enter Canada...thats why we have so many people awaiting to be deported, yes the examples keep coming ....But what we get in return is the typical Liberal answer, it's all about the Money Baby....and everything is going to be ok.... recruit people where we can readily check all the records with little to no costs, like say europe, If it is all about the bottom dollar.....But we have to have some color in there some where, have to look good in front of the cameras...Lets see we got brown guys, some white guys, some asians ....hey what happened to the black guys, or other brown guys like south america, mexico, sorry we don't recruit to many of those guys....Did we send a mission down to Somolia , where they were dying by the thousands from starvation,and war....

The liberals know exactly how each dept sits, what it's shortfalls are, where they like to invest or expand etc,etc....And they have deemed it to be just fine, it works, relax....do you see any new funding coming forth for new hires..... But then again that was not the question, why is it you are opposed to the asking of questions ?????????????????? your grasping right now, you did'nt read the posts that were provided or you would have known about the short falls , and the back logs, etc.etc....So what is the really reason you don't want any questions being asked.....

I was asking a question, with a comment you made, sorry did not know we could not ask questions...Thanks for the answer i think ...

And here i thought the federal government ran on a fiscal budget running from APR 1 st until 31 March every year...perhaps you can show me a source that says other wise.

And how much time are they devoting to each file, i mean immigration checks are not their primary role, and all our security apparatus depts are under manned, under equiped. which is the point, the job is not getting down as we expect it to be...How could known criminals get through the system if it is as layered as you say, that complete back ground checks are down, I mean these guys may be moving in next door to you are you not curious.....and what would the difference be if the decided we will add another step to the process, ask a few questions over the course of time, question odd responses....Why is it to much for you, does it go again'st some of our rights , is it again'st some law, some religious faith thing....why does asking a few questions bother you so much ???? AGain you've made up your mind already "no way it is going to work" and yet it has worked for many government depts when screening candidates for certain jobs...or perhaps you have a source that states other wise, i'd be interested in reading it.

I've read all the posts where did you post a source that says value screen does not work or never has worked ? other than your word. And yet you have brushed aside a lot of evidence provided by other posters, dismissed it all, and closed your mind to any other result other than your own, and your surprised it did not work out in your favour.... One of the main reasons Canadians fear their immigration system, is Muslims...we all get the fact not all muslims are the same, but when was the last time there was no mention in the media of a terrorist attack some where in the world. some days there are dozens, most if not all lead, planned, and carried out by a muslims. And not just again'st infidels, most of the targets are other muslims. it paints a pretty vivid picture, they can't stop this violence, shit they don't even like each other....and we wonder why they are featured in every conversation...

You have not even heard the questions yet, how can you make an assumption before knowing what the questions will be. Perhaps it is the idea of any questions being asked that you dislike. And you've already made up your mind, "nope questions will not do" and are not open to any other argument. And yet Argus has already provided evidence that our Immigration offices are over worked, and do not spend much time on each file, in fact have to complete x amount of files per day like a quota. Hard to be our nations first line of defence when you spend less than 10 minutes on each file...Perhaps the questions are not enough, perhaps what we need is a total revamp of the immigration system, where proper security checks can be done, references checked out, proper intel files made. Right now we are playing Russian roulette with terrorists or possible terrorist. They're are already examples of known criminals entering our nation, once they have become known , we can not find them or evict them...or bring them to justice takes years.... And here we are arguing about some questions, and what should they be composed of..Sounds about right , no wonder our nation can not make decisions in a timely manner.

So are all tax payers now going to be held accountable for people who have made bad choices along the long road of life. getting pregant at 15 or 16 years of age, failure to complete high school, failure to get a higher education, to damn lazy to get of their arses to find a good job or upgrade their education...for every free program you bring forward, there are thousands that will take advantage of it....every one likes free.... What ever happened to work hard and earn a honest living....there are thousands of jobs out there , Stop blaming automation on job losses, automation has been happening since the begining of the 1900's.....it is not a new concept, failure to keep current in what jobs are viable or not ,and your deemed to find yourself in the unemployment lines.

Are you suggesting their is no one in Canada capable of composing a series of questions that would assist immigration officials in revealing these traits. I mean the military has a test that measures certain traits required for certain occupations, in fact they have been using them for years now. Because the posters do not know the exact question that would be asked does not mean the whole topic is not valid.

Here is an awesome idea, lets not recruit from that region.

Voicing your opinion has a cost then, that cost is getting arrested, or hurt in a riot or worse....One could have told harper to screw off many different ways , registered letter, e-mail, a sign in the city, any ways you get the point.....My point i was making is you can not fight city hall and expect to win.

Well if those Countries have displayed the will not to change, in fact none of them have expressed the need to change or become less oppressive. why is that because their religion forbids it.....But the new wave of technology and our uncontrollable need to hug everyone has lead us down this path....we have tried our systems onto other countries , it failed, leaving those countries to their own devices , has failed, now we want to invite them into our country, and turn them into Canadians by constant hugging....which is no different than forcing our systems onto them, i mean do you think they just want to be Canadian ...if so why can't they be converted in their own homelands...... but that is not where you want to stop is it.....we have to compromise, to make everything all nice, so what do we give up, and what do they gain to make all this work....

Something was going on, or are you saying cops were just roaming the streets picking up people for any reason...Why even go near that section of the city unless you lived there. and if so, would it not be good advise to stay indoors until it was all over. You mention stupid cops, who for the most part have no training in this type of event, not like it happens every month or year..so yes things went wrong, a few of your rights got stepped on. Canada may not be perfect, but i'll take living here over any place in the world. I thank god daily for allowing me to do so.

Yes they do change, but most of the time the change your looking for takes generations to effect, I to lived in Germany for 8 years, and while i adjusted very easily , their culture was very similar to ours, and for the most part the language barrier was the hardest to over come..Not that hard really. Please note i lived there in the 90's, a lot has changed since then. I've also lived in the middle east, 12 months in israel, and Golan Heights in Syria, plus 19 months in Afghanistan, and a couple of weeks in Dubia.....and i can say it is going to take more than a generation to effect change in those countries. why because their religion does not efford change. I'll ask the question again, why do we need to recruit people in these regions ? why can we not recruit from other areas of the globe....

Just for the record was anyone charged for all those burning cars or store front windows that were broken and stores looted....and Who goes shopping when their is a riot going on, or is that how you guys roll in Ontario. the Smell of tear gas was not a hint, nor was the large crowds of angry people.

Just to pause a second here, So we agree that Canada has a lot of intolerance, but a lot less than some of the most liberal or westernized muslim countries such as Turkey. So much so that you described it as far worse than you ever seen in your life time......Did you just paint a entire country, sorry city, with the same brush....every citizen in Ankara , Turkey is far worse than any Canadian you've meet in your life time....WOW....so knowing this, Explain to some of us why we have to take in Immigrants or refugees from these areas. When it is clear that our cultures clash, and will continue to clash for generations to come. Is it some Canadian need to change them, or that we are lacking in our multi cultural society a muslim element of some sort. Why is there a need to recruit persons from this region, if even a liberal mind poster sees them as intolerant.

Canada's national Debt has grown in size , todays debt stands at 612 bil dollars in 2015...how is not growing when the numbers keep getting bigger.

Really you can't think of one single Canadian value our nation could be looking for in other immigrants.

Did I not say that the Cons were responsible for all decisions made during their reign of power ....I thought so, but if your going to deny that the Libs and NDP were pursuing massive spending to stim the economy your wrong....

And yet no one has stuck a toe in those waters, to test it out....I may not be a financial guru, but there must be a good reason if politicians have not tried it yet.....a man or women could earn a lot of votes with a steady income of 100 bils of free dollars...shit even I would vote liberal

And what happens if Canada's economy takes a nose dive and interest rates go way up.....reality works both ways does it not...

What has changed from then to now, has Canada suddenly found a money tree, or a secret Santa. or perhaps it has determined we will always be in debt and to just stop trying to control debt. Please explain.

You tell me, I never posted we could spend 100 bil a year, and not really feel anything. But I do agree there needs to be a balance, but sooner or later someone needs to pay off these debts....me, my kids, my grand children, they're kids etc, etc. Well according to Chretien actions, running a deficit is a no fly zone, to be avoided at all costs even if it means gutting entire depts....a 180 degree turn from what you have advised why did Chretien not spend his way out of trouble.....

Yes Chretien did do as you say, but at what cost to the many depts. he gutted....DND is still feeling the effects of the decade of darkness, along with most of the other depts. in the security apparatus.

Yes, Smallc is correct they government of the day is responsible for all decisions.....But correct me if I'm wrong, was their not tremendous pressure from both NDP, Liberal, and others to spend to stim our economy ?