Bryan

Go back and start reading from post #16.

I actually asked an Elections Canada DRO this last year, and she didn't know. The boxes go in the back of a truck, the truck drives off, and....?

Yes.

Which accounts are those? Layton is doing great, and he's definitely moving up fast, but all polls I've seen still show Harper ahead. example: http://www.nanosresearch.com/election2011/20110421-LeadershipE.pdf

The staff of the candidates are marking off who among their known supporters have voted. The more of them they can cross off now, the less work they have on election night.

More people like Harper than like any of the other leaders. He gets more votes, and does much better in leadership index polls. Very few leaders have ever gotten a majority of the VOTES.

I didn't say they always GET their way.

And that's the disconnect. NDPers think Extortion is OK if you're the one doing it, but anything short of total capitulation on the other guys' part is 'extremism'.

I think you missed the point. Go back to post #16 and read from there. The left makes deals that suit them, but it's almost always a one way street; the right is still expected to accommodate the left.

I wouldn't necessarily call their latest cartoon ads "high road" either. The difference, IMO, is they are funny rather than just mean. One thing they do very different is balancing both types of ads in one. CPC and LPC ads are either "hard-attack", or "soft-vote for me", NDP does soft, funny attack followed by vote for me in the same ad. They are really well done.

In the west, the vote swing is often CPC-NDP. The Liberals are not much of a factor in most ridings.

Nothing you have posted has shown the ad to be untrue. The coalition planning between Jack and Gilles are a fact. We have the tapes, I gave you the links.

Sure, as long as it advances their cause.

You mean they are the most willing to extort the government to get their way.

This forum is clear evidence of this. It's the same everywhere. Right wingers may well dismiss left-wing opinion, but the hatred, the vitriol, and the absolute refusal to even have a discussion is overwhelmingly the tactic of the left in this country. The left's very definition of middle ground, is "accept my opinion". Harper as Prime Minister has been the epitome of a centrist. He's so middle ground that it's boring. Yet, simply because he's not an extreme left-winger, he gets pegged as a right-wing extremist.

That's the problem with the left. Lying is the only form of discourse they understand, so the facts confuse them, and they just assume the other guy must be lying too. The ads is 100% fact. Denying it is 100% stupid.

You and your friend must be quite young if you honestly believe that it was the Conservatives that initiated the negative campaigning. Stanfield, Manning, Day, and Harper were all vilified by the Liberals. It was viscous, the negativity was over the top. After decades of putting up with this, Conservatives have simply decided to fight back.

Please. We all heard the tapes LAST election. Tories release secret tape of private NDP meeting Listen in: Coles Notes version for the lefty ADD crowd: The full call is here: To claim that there's anything even remotely untrue about the ad is just revisionist history. Dewar saw that the CPC were successful in getting an ad pulled, so he thought he'd try it. The difference is, in both cases, the Conservatives were correct, and the opposition was lying.

Funny how the Liberals always accuse Conservatives of vandalism. We all know which party is the one that does these things: Liberal volunteer charged in connection with theft of Tory signs

The NDP site? We already know they're lying about it, why would I want to read more lies? The ad is factual: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20081130/conservative_budget_081130/ http://www.thestar.com/article/870962--hebert-duceppe-hands-harper-fresh-anti-coalition-ammunition

Except that it is Jack who is lying. The CPC ad is iron clad fact.

I got the joke. My point is people are taking the position that being anti-abortion is an obvious vote loser. At the same time, a larger percentage supports the idea of cutting planned parenthood funding than actually supports the Conservatives. If it's "obviously not" abortion, what then?

You think that's why most CBC viewers want it to be defunded? http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2011/04/planned-parenthood-do-you-think-the-tories-should-cut-its-funding.html (as of 4pm Central, April 22/2011):

A tend that is echoed in the general public if recent polls are to be believed.

There are pro-life members across party lines. This is nothing other than the fact that one MP didn't keep his own personal views to himself during a campaign. Conservative official policy is specifically not pro-life. At the 2005 Policy Convention, the Conservative membership clearly decided: 58. Abortion Legislation A Conservative Government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion. Will is result in a dip in the polls? Probably for a couple of days.