Alta4ever
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Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
If thats the measure of a Naiz is to have traded with them before the war, then the whole damned world is nazi then. IBM conducted trade with them through out the war, but I bet you own a computer, does that make IBM nazis, does that make you a nazi for owning a computer? Bush is no more a Nazi then you are. You have just lost any credibility you may have had on this board. -
Please show me were isolationism has ever benefitted a country? History doesn't agree.
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Stephen Harper Loses Insider Oops!
Alta4ever replied to Progressive Tory's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
2200 is plenty, the parties would just have to learn how to live within their means, and not fly back and forth across the country a dozen times during an election. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Not a bit, was Churchill like Hitler, how about FDR, Truman, Eisenhower? America is nothing like Nazi Germany and to say otherwise shows a lack of understanding of political ideology, economics and history. -
'Do-not-call' list made situation 'worse': group
Alta4ever replied to jdobbin's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Any list like this is just beging for abuse. -
Stephen Harper Loses Insider Oops!
Alta4ever replied to Progressive Tory's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Are big ornate conventions really required? Should the party pay for people to attend? Its called mind your pennies. I have yet to see a convention that has costs more than 2200 for entrance to it (1100 federal level, 1100 eda level). -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
What if it wasn't Iraq, what if it had been against the Germans, or the Japanese in the forties? It is not a solders job to evaluate the justness of war it is thier job to fight for their nation and follow lawfull orders. They are not Civilians, I doubt you were eve rin any military organization or you would understand this. -
'Do-not-call' list made situation 'worse': group
Alta4ever replied to jdobbin's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
It doesn't stop the call but you don't have to answer it. How many of these calls do people really get in a week. 2 -3, why bother putting your name on list. Really how smart is it to put your name on a publicly accessable list with a phone number? When you receive a call from a telemarketer they are required to take you name off their call list, they are the repubiable companies and fundraising organizations and the ones that will follow the law. The ones that come up 000-000-0000 and are automated are the ones that are the fraudsters calling from other areas of the world and what to they care of following our laws. This list was not needed and I am glad I didn't put my name or number on it. Although I already forsaw this problem. Now if only we didn't have publically accessable donation lists as it is not your business who I donate to just that I don't excede the donation limit. We don't need the kind of crap that is going on in California with the Prop 8 map and donation list. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
A solder is a solder and gives up that right when they enlist. These laws are their for a reason, really who wants to fight any war, how many solders would rather stay home with their families, many if they didn't have a sense of honour or duty. What would happen if you faced a great force and your countries military deserted because they didn't want to fight it what would happe -
'Do-not-call' list made situation 'worse': group
Alta4ever replied to jdobbin's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Don't answer. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
No to face Justice that the US tax payer deserves we should not shelter or hide these cowards. -
Stephen Harper Loses Insider Oops!
Alta4ever replied to Progressive Tory's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
If it were me I would, there would be no deductions from personal income taxes, no 1.75, no return for campaigns. The same donation limit we have today but i would allow corperations and business to donate to that same limit and personal contributions. The tax payer has no business subisdizing any political party. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
When was a solder last executed for deserting? IF the solder does not follow lawful orders there is a price to be paid. Tring to claim refugee status in another country is just a weasling out of ones duty. Go home and face the people and justify it to them then take you lumps. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
How many Democrat Presidents have served in the last 40 years compaired to Republican? -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Good moral mind? If they were of good moral mind they would fulfill their moral and contractual obligations. These people have not been good citzens of their country as they have taken advantage of their country. A war is a war it can't fraudulent, it may not be war you support but it is not fraudulent. The people who got America into the war were operating on the knowelege that they had at the time. JUst because their are some smarmy smug self obessed individuals like yourself that don't respect the law of other nations because you think that you are so morally superior doesn't make you right, or give you the right to act as you do. The people of the US created these laws it is not for US to judge their democracy. Int he US not since the sixties no one has come to make our children serve. Your perception of reality is flawed. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Funny they didn't sign a contract with bush, they signed a contract with the American people. Do you have proof of what you allege otherwise what you are saying liable. Are you as educated as the loans officer when you sign your morgage? Do you know as much about what you are entering into? Should these contracts stand? Quit the bleeding heart boo hooing. On Jan 21 Obama will be president, troops will still be required to serve in I raq, he has been talking about increasing troop levels afganistan. So is he now lying plundering scoundrel? I doubt it. They will still have the same recruiters and those who enlist will still have the same obligations that they have now. -
Why Are We Deporting Iraq War Resisters?
Alta4ever replied to gordiecanuk's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
We have no right to protect these people they are not facing death or persecution they are facing a legal court martial for deserting. -
So we are killing peasants for sport? Is that really what you think? I am a classical conservative and I am not greedy so get bent.
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Really is this true apparently not have you seen some of the people that have come over and become refugees, what about the kid sitting in Gitmo? An enemy combatant that is a Canadian Citizen who'd a thunk it? Please remind me what part of Canada he lived in? What about the 10 that were arrested for planning a terror attack instide our own country what city were they from?
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War has never and will never be a civilized thing, it is a horrible ugy transgression. It is this way as something to feared. To expect hate not to come out of it is misguided, when you best friend killed by the enemy, you begin to hate, that fact that these solders are able to deal with this and try to live a normal life on returning goes to show the strength of the vast majority of these people.
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What were the solders calling the enemy in WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam? I think stronger words then "garbage" were used.
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Stephen Harper Loses Insider Oops!
Alta4ever replied to Progressive Tory's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
How is what I said dishonest? Sorry but that 30 million that goes to the parties can be better spent on healthcare, policing, or some other program. Political parties are just leaches on the taxpayer. -
Ignatieff flip-flops on tax cuts
Alta4ever replied to capricorn's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
So what I get out of all this crap you spew is that you think that you and government know better then me what I should spend my money on? I know better then government, you know why the Big three are in so much trouble a failing business model, and more and more people like myself who do and will not support CAW and choose to by Toyota, or Nissan instead of supporting bad corporate decsions by the domestic car companies and the overly power union that is playing a huge role in destorying them. No thanks, I rather see my money go to china Japan or mexico. I want them to go through chapter 11, it will void a lot of over paid union contracts, and get rid of the current management in these companies. You want to encourage home buying what did that sort of program do to the lending companies in the states? Do you recall the melt down caused by people getting morgages that can't afford them? It just happened in september. Our Banking system is currently ranked best in the world, do what you suggest would put us in the same situation as the US are in now. You sound as idiotic as Barney Frank. -
Stephen Harper Loses Insider Oops!
Alta4ever replied to Progressive Tory's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
So PT were you ever a Joe clark, Mulrooney, or Jean Charest suppporter? -
Stephen Harper Loses Insider Oops!
Alta4ever replied to Progressive Tory's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
So elimanting a portion of the political welfare was an attack on national unity. I'm not sure what world you live in.... Very few Albertans would have supported a CPC/NDP/bloc coalition. No mutual support contract was ever signed was there? There was no attack on national unity I am not sure where you get this from. Government had not even sat yet in the house the coalition was dreamed up right after election. Any national unity crisis that you may be talking about was all the seperatism talk in the west that ensued once the coalition was disclosed to us.
