Moonlight Graham

That's because he is weak. He and his party are incapable of defending this country. The only thing they seemed to do well was defend us against Trump's trade war stuff. If he were a black Democrat they'd probably fold like a lawn chair and hide under the table.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10629834/documents-canada-u-s-mexico-visa-bilateral-irritant/ If you don't even know about the Mexico visa issue then why are you making an argument defending the Liberals taking the visa requirements off? I have to educate you on the issue basics like the foreign interference discussion on the other board? They reversed the policy and put the visa requirement back on because their decision was stupid and the Biden admin was complaining that Mexican illegals were entering Canada, overstaying their visits, and entering the US from the Canada-US border. Many others just stay in Canada illegally. Why? Because this government sucks at their jobs and so often don't act in the interests of Canadians. Its a pattern (see foreign interference). The Liberals are incapable of defending this country from many foreign threats. They're too worried about offending people like you and many other progressives are. Progressives need to grow some balls. We should be acting in the best interests of the country instead of worrying about people's feelings being offended and pandering to immigrants for votes or doing favours for Canadian corporations who love undocumented immigrants, temporary foreign workers/students etc. The Liberals removed the visa requirements for Mexico. Why? This year they reversed course and but the visa requirements back on because it was bad policy. They're incompetent fools. If you have a quote from your link (or any other link) where it says we can't have visa requirements for travelers from Mexico because of NAFTA please post it. Otherwise i'm rejecting the argument. Whenever i criticize Liberal immigration policy it seems to bother you. Why? This seems more based on your emotions than facts. I'm interested in good policy and what's in the best interests of the country, and unlike "woke progressives" i'm not interested in who is or isn't offended by immigration policy. And why do you think they have visa requirements for travel from most countries outside of the US and Europe? This will provide the answer as to whether Mexico travelers should have visa requirements or not. He's the worst PM in Canada's history. My opinion and as voted by Canadians in polls. I never said he and wokeism is "the cause of all our problems", this is a ridiculous strawman so i'm rejecting that argument. They are a cause of some or many of our problems or at least making some or many of them worse. I also reject your whattaboutisms. "Whattabout the economy?". Wokeness and Trudeau are bad and i'm going to criticize the specifics of them, including immigration policies they've made which are bad, until they're voted out. If you don't like that i can't help you. I'm certainly not going to stop because it bothers you. If you want to talk about another issue then make a thread about it. This thread is about Liberal immigration policy. You're part of the problem because you never want to talk about these issues, you want to ignore them and talk about other things and make other people stop talking about them. It was the same about immigration affecting housing costs which you eventually came around on once the MSM started talking about it. Problems don't get solved by ignoring them, they get solved by confronting and discussing them and potential solutions. If you don't want to talk about them then click on another thread and/or create your own threads or ignore my posts. Please stop telling me what issues I should and shouldn't care about. If you post one of these red herring and whattaboutism replies yet again in response to my posts i'm putting you on ignore for a month. I'm really sick of it. Stick to the issues.

1. Which groups have a i blamed? I'm blaming ideas. Leftwing ideology. The Liberals are believers so they're part of our social problems (and economic). Since you're a mainstream progressive I don't expect you to agree. I'm not saying 100% of leftwing social policies are bad. Civil rights in the 1960's wasn't bad. 2. This is a strawman. When have I blamed "trans people" for anything? Trans people are like 1% of our population and aren't responsible for our problems. I'm hoping the CPC can help reverse many of these Liberal policies, economic and social, and return many things closer to as they were under Harper (before JT took over). Heck I'll take a Chretien at this point, at least he seemed fiscally responsible and not a leftwing wingnut. The Chretien Liberals are probably a thing of the past and not coming back any time soon. The NDP are even more socially leftist than the Liberals. Given the scope of our problems and how the Liberals and NDP have handled them, anyone besides trans people who votes against the CPC because of potential anti-trans policies and carbon tax policies is a fools. The impact of these policies are so minimal its ridiculous. So go vote green or NDP or whomever. 3. Huh? I've been arguing about housing prices (and have NEVER only blamed immigration #'s) and Liberal deficits since pre-COVID and I keep getting Liberal-supporting fools defending the Liberal policies. We've had this same discussion several times. I'm not having it any more. If you want to start a thread on economic issues you're free to do so. If you want to remain a card-carrying woke progressive you're free to do so.

You sounds like an Albertan, but fish instead of oil.

Gore conceded and honoured the decision of the SCOTUS. Gore didn't have White House lawyers create fake electoral college ballot schemes and try to convince state legislators to go along with the voter fraud, hmm? And call Clinton a traitor for not going along with it? Or tweet nothing until 3 hours after rioters started ransacking Capitol Hill trying to confirm Dubya's nomination? Trump's campaign was in contact with Russian government officials throughout his 2015 election campaign. Sounds a little suspicious don't you think? Should have some investigation don't you think? Anyone who believes these were innocent contacts is an imbecile.

They caught them. So there's no actual voter fraud happening there if it was caught. I agree they should have photo ID to vote, but only the condition that a photo ID card be made available for free for all voters in any state this is applied in. Drivers license or passport isn't enough since those can be revoked for various reasons and typically cost money. Give every American a citizenship card or something.

Anyone who voted NDP or Liberal last federal election is a naive fool who need to reexamine their belief systems. Luckily O'Toole's conservatives won the popular vote last election so that gives me some hope for this country. Scheer wasn't as good a leader as O'Toole but they won the popular vote as well in that election too. A plurality of Canadians are on my side. I was talking about JWR and Jane Philpott, not the current MP's against Trudeau. They're just in it for themselves.

I know exactly why Palestinians resist Israel. Some of their complaints are perfectly understandable and legit. But I don't feel bad for the Palestinians who either voted for Hamas or support Hamas today. They complain about "crippling blockades" while they support rocket materials being imported from Iran etc and fired at Israeli civilians in terrorist attacks and think Israel is just going to let him keep importing whatever materials they want? They can get bent, they aren't victims, they're authors of their own fates in this circumstance. The blockades would stop if Hamas stopped this nonsense. Hamas slaughters 1200 people on Oct 7 and kidnaps hostages and then Palestinians whine when Israel launches strikes to eliminate Hamas, and complains they're blowing up hospitals and mosques when Hamas hides in them. Get bent. They whine that Israel is targeting "UN foreign aid workers" while these workers literally participated in the Oct 7 attacks. Get f*cked. Their enemy is Hamas and yet many of them are in the streets of Canada and elsewhere cheering support for Hamas on Oct 7 and its anniversary. They can all get f*cked. Anyone cheering on Oct 7 should get deported & stripped of their citizenship as a terrorist supporter. Oh but "A Canadian is a Canadian" LOL. Some people's egos are too big to look in the mirror and own their own sh*t. Much easier to play the victim and blame others for your problems. I agree.

Did you ever vote for the CPC under Harper? LOL

The Dems have never pulled that stuff, and neither have the GOP before Trump. Even the state GOP wouldn't go along with it. It's just Trump. He's a danger to democracy. It's a failure of the system he's even able to run in the election. His cheerleaders hate democracy.

The Harper gov was in power for longer I believe and wasn't nearly as bad as the Liberals. No saints but this is really bad. Any Liberal MP who can sit in caucus with this government doesn't have any respect from me. JWR and Jane Philpott are heroes. They chose ethics over their own political power and stood up to this goon and unethical PM and PMO. The Liberal MP's who want Trudeau to step down now are sneaking around and afraid to reveal themselves and only want him out because he's bad for their re-election chances. I have no respect for them. Country > career

Link? I don't understand what you mean. Even if this is true, Canada is in control of their visa system. Mexico can't "force" Canada to not give Mexican travellers visas, and if it was some kind of stipulation that changed in NAFTA we didn't have to accept it. I'd like to see evidence of your claim. This is on the Liberals.

PP is war from perfect but he's probably a lot better than Trudeau. He can't be any worse. We don't need perfect, at this point we just need competent.

Red herring. This is assumes we have no social problems in society. I disagree. "I don't like talking about this and don't see this as a problem so i want to change the subject" isn't much of an argument. It's a red herring logical fallacy which you do often on social issue discussion. Yes we have economic problems too, many which the Liberals have either caused or made worse. Socially and economically they have failed this country. Their ideology needs to be acknowledged for the toxic nonsense that it is, its spread is a cancer on society. The people who have kept voting for this party the last few elections have failed this country. Voting NDP isn't any better and they've only propped up this government.

Educate yourself on the basics of supply and demand.

The Trudeau gov took away the visa requirement for Mexicans. FROM FREAKING MEXICO. Smells like corporate favours to me... Every single person who voted for the Liberals after JT's first term is an imbecile.

I think the prairies will be placated by having a conservative government led by an Albertan as PM. I'm convinced the only way to really placate Quebec longterm is to remove the monarchy. They feel like a conquered people, which they are (Plains of Abraham in Quebec City). The indigenous would also approve. This would be extremely difficult however.

Truer words have never been said on this forum. Socially leftwing ideology has become a suicidal death-cult and its become increasingly more destructive over the last 60 years (not to say its all been bad). It needs to be destroyed or it will destroy us. I'd much rather have a leader and party who behave a little bit like a-holes than like guilt-ridden submissive wimps who are unable to defend this country, our society, culture, history, etc. We need to grow a backbone again and stand up for ourselves. The scary thing is that in many ways the Liberal party and their supporters may not even know it. You know what they say about good intentions...

Rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. I think the Liberal Party is almost as disgusting a party as the GOP. Both a bunch of corrupt incompetent loons, just opposite sides of the spectrum.

Sounds good to me. Well I only voted for Trudeau once in 2015 to boot out Harper. Canadians still re-elected Trudeau and his party after the whole JWR scandal went down (even though the CPC won the popular vote the last 2 elections). So the state of the country right now is as much on those who have continued to vote Liberal. I saw the writing on the wall several years ago. I probably would have preferred O'Toole over PP.

I'm not at all "woke", which I can't stand. But woke doesn't have anything to do with a fake electors plot that Trump and his White House lawyers tried to implement and have Pence go along with. States like super-woke Georgia have charged Trump over it (cases pending). You can do whatever you wish. If it's wrong it will probably get corrected.

I like my race and certainly feel no guilt over it as others do. Whether there is a lot of immigration or zero immigration, white-majority countries will go extinct of caucasians unless they improve their reproduction rate which is well below replacement levels and falling.

Read carefully: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot Yes we know you and your alter-ego Five of Swords are super racist Nazi lovers.

Because I just liked them. My parents couldn't care less what I played with. No because he's German and he acts like a dictator.

Trump is German. He's a dictator. That makes him literally a German dictator. I'm a Canadian.