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Are you ready to tackle that issue? Not sure how I can, I used to be a member of zero population growth years ago, but nobody is really interested, they don't want to know about it.

Canada does not have the same freedom of speech amendment rights as the U.S. We have more limits on freedom of speech, we also have Bill C-250 which severely limits the right to free speech. I believe the case of the K and C went before the human rights court, not a civil court, which means they didn't have a good enough case to go before a court. People can take a case to the Human rights 'courts' when they think their case is not good enough for a civil court.

I agree there needs to be some tightening of laws re: use of guns, particularly in sentencing. However, in the Dawson shooting the longgun registry had nothing to do with the shootings, nor is it proof that we need to take away hunters' firearms. The weapon used in Dawson was aBeretta CX4 Storm which as to be registered and was. We do have very strict laws and regs. re: the type of firearms we can legally own, storage and how we can use them. One need a firearms acquisition certificate to obtain a firearm and and a thorough background check before getting one - all good. This however, does not stop criminals nor disturbed individuals from using guns in to commit a crime. Don't forget firearms — banned or not — can be illegally obtained. None of our laws prevent a crime from happening but maybe some tighter restrictions on semi-automatics would help, but I doubt it. Criminals and psychopaths will commit the crime no matter what.

The glaciers have been melting since the end of the last ice age. That can't be changed unless we have another ice age. You are only buying into all the fear mongering Get a grip on yourself. I agree and I don't see how anyone can crit. anyone else for their life style unless they are living without all the comforts of home, including computers, cars, central heat etc. etc. The real problem is overpopulation but no one wants to tackle that issue.

I think people do believe that we are affecting the environment, but not to the extent the chicken littles say we are, the earth is cycling anyway, the best we can do is slow it down. It is not possible for the whole world to live in caves and go back to living in a pre-industrialized age, we would never be able to feed and cloth everyone. We all do what we can in recycling etc. but who here wants to live in a cave or a shack with out heat and hydro - I will give credit to Bill Graham for admitting he was wrong about D. Reid though, as he has retracted his criticism of Reid's appt. Graham cited remarks alleged to have been made by Reid which linked the Muslim religion to terrorism. He withdrew the remarks, and said he has since found out that they were not made by Mr. Reid. Harper thanked Mr. Graham for admitting the mistake - Edmont. Journal page A6 and The Citizen page A5

While I think there should be some kind of protection, apparantly the G & mail has it wrong. According to the Pime Minister Stephen Harper he has affirmed that his government has no plans to draw up legislation that would protect officials and churches that refuse to deal with homosexuals. He said he has "not seen such a law." Obviously the liberals are engaging in unfounded smears and speculation.

Wow, he's taking a chance. Hubby left this morning for moose hunting way up north, none of his group have all that gadgetry. As far as I'm concerned anyone who freezes his buns off in a tree stand waiting for some hapless game to come by needs his head read. I don't mind going with him for grouse on a nice fall day, wouldn't shoot it myself, but I'll eat it.

I'll post this here rather than start another thread, its worth a read and caused a stir in Britain, another case in point on how reasonable debate on immigration is stifled. "How on earth have we got to such a pass, where a patently decent person is smeared as a racist simply for wishing to preserve a national identity?" Melanie Phillips, Daily Mail Discomfort of strangers David Goodhart's essay challenging liberals to rethink their attitudes to diversity and the welfare state has provoked a bitter debate among progressive thinkers. Here, for the first time in a national newspaper, we publish it in full. a couple of paragraphs here In the rhetoric of the modern liberal state, the glue of ethnicity ("people who look and talk like us") has been replaced with the glue of values ("people who think and behave like us"). But British values grow, in part, out of a specific history and even geography. Too rapid a change in the make-up of a community not only changes the present, it also, potentially, changes our link with the past. As Bob Rowthorn wrotein Prospect in February 2003, we may lose a sense of responsibility for our own history - the good things as well as the shameful things in it - if too many citizens no longer identify with it. Is this a problem? Surely Britain in 2004 has become too diverse and complex to give expression to a common culture in the present, let alone the past. Diversity in this context is usually code for ethnic difference. But that is only one part of the diversity story, albeit the easiest to quantify and most emotionally charged. The progressive dilemma is also revealed in the value and generational rifts that emerged with such force in the 1960s. At the Prospect roundtable mentioned above, Patricia Hewitt, now secretary of state for trade and industry, recalled an example of generational conflict from her Leicester constituency. She was canvassing on a council estate when an elderly white couple saw her Labour rosette and one of them said: "We're not voting Labour - you hand taxpayers' money to our daughter." She apparently lived on a nearby estate, with three children all by different fathers, and her parents had cut her off (evidence that even close genetic ties do not always produce solidarity).

Obviously not, but economically and culturally Britain among others is not any better off. They have major problems which will only be exacerbated if the influx of people who cannot or will not integrate into their society peacefully. Britain cannot absorb any more immigrants, no matter where they are from, especially when they do not believe in the same freedoms we do e.g. Freedom of speech and freedom from violent threats and attacks. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13...2385684,00.html Philosophers demand help for teacher on run from Islam threats From Charles Bremner in Paris INTELLECTUALS are rallying around a philosophy teacher forced into hiding after he wrote an article describing the Prophet Muhammad as a ruthless warlord and mass murderer. Robert Redeker, a writer who teaches at a lycée near Toulouse, has been under police protection, moving between secret addresses, since threats against him appeared on Islamist websites last week. His home address was published with calls to murder. “You will never feel secure on this earth. One billion, 300 million Muslims are ready to kill you,” one message said. One threat came from a contributor to al- Hesbah, an internet forum that is viewed as a channel for al-Qaeda. Despite the threats the Government has offered M Redeker, 52, only limited support.

Sounds reasonable, and why shouldn't law abiding hunters be able to persue the sport as long hunting is allowed - no reason. I don't like guns, I don't use them or own one, but I wouldn't deny hunters their 'sport'.

Many people dispute the science of climate change, there are many skeptics on that issue, it doesn't make someone unfit for office, as long as he is willing to look at both sides. Dinosaurs suffered climate change too 03 October 2006 From New Scientist Dinosaurs had to cope with dramatic swings in the climate around 120 million years ago, with ocean surface temperatures changing by as much as 6 °C. The finding suggests that natural climate variations are much more complex than previously thought. Simon Brassell from Indiana University, Bloomington, and colleagues examined telltale carbon compounds in fossilised bacteria. The proportion of these compounds varies with water temperature, and bacteria from different rock layers revealed that the ocean surface temperature went from around 30 °C to 36 °C in the space of 10,000 years (Geology, vol 34, p 833). "The changes appear step-like, as if the climate is switching from one mode to another," Brassell says. http://www.newscientist.com/chan...aurs-.html __________________________________________________________ CO2 Science Magazine www.co2science.org/ "A weekly review and repository of scientific research pertaining to carbon dioxide and global change." Managed by the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, a group critical of climate change claims. Information on the site includes data from the U.S. Historical Climatology Network, model experiments for measuring the effects of CO2 on plants, and journal and book reviews. Global Warming Information Page {http://www.globalwarming.org/} The Cooler Heads Coalition is a subgroup of the National Consumer Coalition, and was founded by that group to "dispel the myths of global warming by exposing flawed economic, scientific, and risk analysis." Features of the site include economic arguments against the Kyoto Protocol and other climate change policy documents as well as regular legislative upd

There are some politicians in Britain who are getting worried, problem is when they try to do something about the issue, they are attacked as being racist. No country can increase their population in such large amounts without problems. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19...1454486,00.html Michael Howard today launched his party's new hardline policy on immigration and asylum, promising to pull Britain out of the 1951 UN Refugee Convention. The Conservative leader said that he wants to remove the incentive for economic migrants to pose as asylum-seekers, if his party wins the next election. A certain number of work permits would be issued to allow economic migrants to enter Britain legally, but foreigners arriving in Britain and trying to claim asylum would probably face a long wait in an overseas detention camp. The policy was immediately criticised by race equality campaigners and by UNHCR, the UN refugee agency. Beheading Nations: The Islamization of Europe’s Cities From the desk of Fjordman on Thu, 2006-07-13 22:31 http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1183 We have seen videos on TV of Muslim Jihadis beheading infidel hostages. Less attention has been paid to the fact that Muslims are beheading entire nation states. Although this is happening in slow motion, it is no less dramatic. Historically, the major cities have constituted a country’s “head,” the seat of most of its political institutions and the largest concentration of its cultural brainpower. What happens when this “head” is cut off from the rest of the body? In many countries across Western Europe, Muslim immigrants tend to settle in major cities, with the native population retreating to minor cities or into the countryside. Previously, Europeans or non-Europeans could travel between countries and visit new cities, each with its own, distinctive character and peculiarities. Soon, you will travel from London to Paris, Amsterdam or Stockholm and find that you have left one city dominated by burkas and sharia to find… yet another city dominated by burkas and sharia. For some reason, this eradication of unique, urban cultures is to be celebrated as “cultural diversity.” Britain’s population is projected to rise by more than seven million in the next 25 years. The predictions were even greater than those made by the Migrationwatch UK think-tank, whose forecasts had been dismissed in the past as alarmist. Sir Andrew Green, the chairman of Migrationwatch, said the figures were “staggering.” “They totally demolish the Government’s claim that it has a ‘managed migration’ policy. In fact they show that immigration into the UK is out of control.” British citizenship has been granted to nearly one million foreign nationals since Labour and Tony Blair came to power in 1997. “Grants of citizenship have quadrupled under the present Government. This is a direct result of their ‘no limits’ immigration policy.” “Immigration on this scale is changing the nature of our society without public consent. It is no longer acceptable.” More white families are moving from London to the regions while many immigrants arrive in the capital from overseas. Migrationwatch said that the change in 10 years had been “extraordinarily rapid” and “unprecedented.” Whites will soon become a minority in Birmingham and other major British cities, posing a “critical” challenge to social stability, Britain’s race relations watchdog warned. Statistics showed that white and ethnic minority communities were becoming increasingly segregated. “Asian youths,” a British euphemism for Pakistanis and Muslims from South Asia, in parts of Oldham are trying to create no-go areas for white people. One of them told: “There are signs all around saying whites enter at your risk. It’s a matter of revenge.” However, it’s not just the white natives that are targets of Muslim violence, but other non-Muslims, too. A report on Hindus being driven out of the English city of Bradford by young Muslims was described by some Hindus as “ethnic cleansing.” Some of them want to leave the city to escape the “Talibanization of Bradford.”

I don't doubt that they will be re-elected. One of the key issues in the last election was education funding and teacher union demands, evidently Dalton hasn't improved on it. Meanwhile back at the ranch according to http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/BreakingNews/2...03/1942668.html many school boards have less money to work with than they did in 1997. http://tinyurl.com/ew5ry The Star says: Ontario’s new education minister had a tough message today for struggling school boards looking to squeeze more money out of the province: there is no more cash coming for schools this year. Kathleen Wynne, the former Toronto trustee who was a thorn in the side of the Mike Harris Conservatives over their funding of the education system, is now locked in a battle of wills with several Ontario school boards. She said today there is no "pot of new money” for boards looking at cutting programs to balance their budgets. Wynne, who made her name fighting Harris’s cuts and now finds herself in a similar boat, said that she can’t wave a “magic wand” to help boards that say they can’t preserve existing programs and transport services without dipping into reserves or running an illegal budget.

Hmmm, I'm no psychiatrist but that rant sounds like someone with very low self esteem. Low self esteem and self loathing can manifest itself in people who have always had to struggle to make ends meet, not to mention exhibiting loathing towards people who have done a lot better in life. Better everyone should be poor I guess, then some have too much. I had a sewing machien for a while, hated it, it makes a good doorstop, I never did like anything I made, it looked disgusting - There are many other places to buy material than at Walmart, you get what you pay for there. As for rapid transit, not so rapid, I can attest to that LOL The earth is always cycling, and nothing we can do will stop it, pollution etc. may be accelerating this cycle, but the best we can do is slow it down. The best thing we can do for the earth is to cut back on the population; even if we were all inclined to live as the Amish do, it is not possible, there are too many people. When people do not control the birthrate, the results are obvious.

I'm confused as to how religion got into a discussion on gun control and what it has to do with anything ? None of this had anything to do with religion, and as we all know, the gun registry would and cannot prevent this type of tragedy.

Dianne Francis Immigration : The Economic Case (Paperback Canada receives more than a million immigrants every five years, far more on a per capita basis than any other country. The size and composition of the country's urban centres has been transformed in the last fifteen years with little critical discussion about who gets in or why Canada's immigration targets are so much higher, proportionately, than those of the other principal immigration destinations—Australia and the United States. One recent publication asks some hard questions about current policies, while sharing the belief that more modest immigration numbers, with a greater focus on language and labour market skills, will serve Canada and would-be immigrants much better. Diane Francis, a well-known financial journalist, takes direct aim at the economic arguments used in support of current immigration flows. Francis highlights the low skill levels of many family class immigrants; of some 600,000 immigrants admitted in 1998 to 2000, 43 per cent spoke neither English or French, and one third of the adults reported that they did not intend to work. Canadian residents who sponsored immigrants gave guarantees that they would not be a burden on social assistance for the first 10 years, but in practice many such sponsors simply reneged on their commitments. In Ontario alone broken sponsorship commitments are costing taxpayers $150 million annually. Faced with growing evidence of withdrawn family support and with the difficulty of enforcement, the Liberals reduced the sponsorship commitment requirement to three years. Francis's slim book delivers some hard blows to those who believe that Canada's immigration policies are well conceived and well managed. They are neither, she concludes. Instead, together with an incompetent, patronage-driven refugee determination (status-granting) process, current policies are economically disastrous, porous to criminals seeking new opportunities, and incompatible with Canada's national security needs.

It is the family class of immigrants that are the least qualified, I can't believe he said that, a craven last minute attempt to buy votes. That much of an increase would be a crushing burden for our education and health care systems, he really is a flake. Despite the evidence of economic damage, we are all afraid to speak up, while politicians pander to the immigration and refugee industry and buy the immigrant vote. Most people are afraid to speak out as we know what happens. so, in the absence of a real debate, the liberals can continue to pander to the immigration industry. http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/admin/books/...Immigration.pdf. there is the problem that a substantial proportion of all sponsorship commitments go unfulfilled for at least a part of the time when the sponsors are committed to looking after the needs of the immigrants. As a result, significant numbers of sponsored immigrants become a public burden. The federal government does not publish official figures on the magnitude of this problem. The provincial governments, which bear the costs of reneged sponsorship commitments, have the data but do not publish them (..why not..) snip he family class relative to the skilled class of immigrants on average has 20 percent lower incomes and a higher incidence of unemploy-ment and need for social assistance benefits. These statistics also show that the family class of immi-grants receives social assistance payments that, as a percentage of all such payments, have been increasing through time.

No one has ever asked the public what they want for Canada, or if they want the face of Canada to change so dramatically. The issue of immigration is so volatile and open to accusations of racism that a thorough discussion is not possible. Any critique of immigration is immediately labelled racist. I have no problem with immigration per se, just the quality and quantity. Canada has every right to determine who and what is best for Canada, not what is best for the potential immigrant. Immigrants should be selected based on Canada's economic needs, not theirs. Many of the entrants come in as refugees or relatives without meeting the points system criteria and would never get in on their own merit, which results in a large very poor underclass. This also results in a huge drain on the education system as more and more tax dollars are directed towards English as a second language, and in Toronto there is the taxpayer funded Heritage Language programs. http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/040407/d040407a.htm In 2000, recent immigrants had a low-income rate of 35.0%, nearly twice the average rate for metropolitan areas overall. In 1980, in contrast, recent immigrants had a low-income rate of only 23.1%. This growth was substantial in all metropolitan areas with a large population of recent immigrants. At the same time, recent immigrants increased their share in the population, especially in the 1990s. In 2000, 9.0% of residents in the largest 27 metropolitan areas were recent immigrants, compared with 6.1% in 1990. Toronto and Vancouver were two large metropolitan areas where the low-income rate increased in the 1990s. Virtually all of the rises in low-income rates seen in these areas during the 1990s were concentrated among recent immigrants.

Me too, I was very pleased that he stood his ground on including Israel, it is about time we had a decisive PM and a fair one. He's looking better all the time.

If a satellite signal crosses over my private backyard I have every right to make use of it. If they don't want me to use it, they can get it out of my back yard.

Why is it interesting. Can't understand why religion and guns go together in some peoples minds. I am sure your Jesus would not have approved. I don't think 'he' would have approved either, but guns and jesus don't normally go together in anyone's mind and I'm not sure how 'he' got into this thread. BTW, he is not 'my jesus' but I thought he was yours, you quote the scriptures often and iIbelieve, you are a aChristian, probably United church - right.

He has 30 days to pay a fine of $20,000 to the Liberal Party, or he is disqualified so what does Volpe say: hmmmm I think he's done like dinner. Press Release Statement from Volpe campaign. September 29, 2006, Ottawa- The Honourable Joseph Volpe, Member of Parliament for Eglinton – Lawrence and Liberal leadership candidate released the following statement in regards to the decision handed down today by a compliance panel of the Liberal Party of Canada in regard to issues surrounding membership recruitment in Quebec. The compliance panel seriously misconstrued the evidence before it as well as submissions and recommendations of the compliance officer and testimony of other witnesses. “It should be noted that the panel found no evidence to suggest that Mr. Volpe or his senior campaign workers had actual knowledge of the wrongful purchase of memberships.” Liberal Party Press release “The press release issued today by the Liberal Party prior to the compliance panels official report on Monday as well as the haste to proceed without due process seems designed to inflict as much damage as possible to my campaign immediately prior to the delegate selection meetings” Volpe added. We will be mounting a vigorous appeal to the permanent appeals committee of the Liberal Party of Canada. -30-

Only unmistakable to you apparantly, it is confusing to me how anyone could thing that is so. This type of mindset and spin, illustrates why liberals are no longer fit to run the country.

The Tie/Belinda Thing isn’t really peripheral to the conservative’s electoral chances in the next election, but I imagine the pundits in the Tory war room are salivating at the juicy targets being thrown up by the Libs. The most damning statement BS made was- that there is a double standard - as if she were she a man this whole thing would have been ignored – really? Are the Fiberals so divorced from reality as to actually believe this sh*t ? If B.S were a man, a billionaire politician who knowingly carried on an affair with a married woman, while her spouse was home caring for their kids, I would like to think that the other men in his caucus would turn their backs on him. She is showing a fundamental lack of judgment, not to mention lack of respect for the instruction of marriage and is certainly exhibiting a character flaw that makes her, IMO unsuitable as a politician and role model. She, and others like her, obviously care nothing about the abandoned children and the wronged spouse. This type of person is not someone we should want to represent us in Parliament, nor anywhere else and is certainly relevant to political discussion.

Imagine, a conservative gov't actually being - conservative - whoda thunk it. Good move on their part to cut the fat, didn't see any CBC cuts though, did I miss that one -