Ricki Bobbi

Drea are you posting high again? OP, the NFL is huge business in Canada. It just happens that the Globe and Mail easily has the worst sports section of all the major dailies in Canada. The Toronto Star, National Post, Montreal Gazette, Vancouver Sun or Edmonton Journal all would have had more in-depth NFL coverage.

I'll share my efforts when somebody else shares theirs. Hmmm, I should put out the effort because you say I'm full of crap? Seems like you are embarking on a path of self-destruction of credibility.

No, I did not. I'm not an ideologue. In fact, I had some hope for Chretien at first. I liked some of what he had to say. I It is not ideology or partisanship, but disgust at their venal, self-serving ways. There is much about the current Conservative leadership and party I don't really approve of or support. I'm mindful, however, that it's hard to judge performance given their minority situation, and that the alternative is quite simply no alternative. The Liberals have given no indication they intend to change their ways. I see no sign of emerging interest in the welfare of the country as opposed to the welfare of themselves, no grand vision, no infusion of integrity or honesty. And so, when those of you who have supported these people throughout all that, through the corruption, the lies, the deceit and arrogance, and who still support them attack the Tories for piddling little errors of no real importance it simply brings to light, for me, your lack of awareness, of knowledge, of political sophistication - or basic stupidity. Argus, I personally thought Chretien did a good job for the most part in his first term. After that things got bad. The EH-101 contract, right or wrong, was a campaign promise made by Chretien. I have no problem with him cancelling the contract because it was a promise he made. We all knew it was going to cost a lot to cancel, but at least it was out there before he took office. I don't support the Conservatives 100% in everything they do. For example, I think the 1/2 point increase in the lowest tax bracket was bad policy. I believe Flaherty will correct this mistake in the next budget. I hear the issues people have with Harper being a control freak. But he became so for good reason. The Conservatives lost the 2004 election because they weren't disciplined enough. If it hadn't been for Randy White's comment on judges, Cheryl Gallant's ridiculous analogy on abortion and that terrible press release from the war room saying that Paul Martin was weak on child pornography I believe the Conservatives would have won that election. In 2006 Harper tightened his control and look at the results. There were no dumb*ss comments from Conservative candidates in the last election and he squeaked out a win. Other than Peter MacKay there haven't been any major uproars about dumb*ss Conservative MP comments. I tend to believe Harper was letting MacKay hang on his own petard with that one. I absolutely agree about the disgust at the Liberals. The arrogance amazed me. Same level of arrogance I witnessed at the end of Mulroney's second term. The Liberals haven't changed. I think it would take another good stretch in the political wilderness for that to happen. The only way I see that taking place is a majority win by the Conservatives. Smart, introspective, Liberals should be scared by Harper. He took over the Alliance when it wasn't much of a job to win. Merged the two parties. And brought down Martin in a little over two years. After 11 years of the right in the wilderness before that he pulled off a truly amazing job. But how many truly introspective Liberals are there out there. Harper's Government hasn't been perfect. But it has been competent and is holding itself up to a much higher ethical standard than anything Chretien post 1997 or Martin ever approached. For that reason they will continue to get my support...

What's the first name of this Moore person? Kinda tough to look something up based on so little information. Your timeline is a little off. The last people actually executed in Canada were put to death in 1962. So this Moore person would have been ok if he had been convicted 30 years ago. Do explain these *problems* with the CPC crime bills. They haven't proposed re-instating the death penalty, have they? They haven't proposed changing the definition of presumption of innocence, have they?

Wow, you have quite the sense of humour. Does that extend to stealing toys from the children's ward at the hospital and heckling at the special Olympics?

So once elected the Prime Minister should never visit any region of Canada outside Ottawa unless it reaches the *Saturn-approved* level of taking a trip? Do lay out what you consider worthy of Prime Ministerial travel? Not what you *don't* approve, because that just gives you more of an opening for attack.

You clearly didn't read my post. If you or anybody points out a detailed analysis on how it *proves* Saturn's point I will gladly take the time to disprove. But until then, no I'm not going to put out the effort otherwise. All Saturn did was post a couple links to convoluted information. It took me a while to wade through it but I did. So if anybody else puts in the effort to provide details I will take place. P.S. this also applies to anybody who can credibly prove the term "destruction of wealth" is commonly used in the financial industry

I'm serious some backbencher MP made the proposal sometime in 2005 IIRC....

Those wrongfully convicted cases don't really apply here. Not to be obtuse but who is Moore? I have heard of all the other cases...

What's with the quote? I *did not* write the banana republic line. But we could follow through on that whack job suggestion to annex trinidad and tobago.

Do you believe in the right to any profits at all? At what point do profits become extreme? Do you believe in property rights?

The information doesn't prove the 60% claims. You spend the time crunching the numbers from the data dump provided and type it up in a presentable form. It took me long enough to wade through that crap to figure it out. Not wasting anymore time on that. Something tells me that you and Saturn both lack the technical skills necessary to even go through those numbers accurately.

No he has not. Man, this hatred of yours really does lead to some ridiculous histrionics.

Come on geoff. For catchme it is never a waste of time to paint the Prime Minister in the worst possible light. Interesting how he can accuse the Prime Minister of wasting money on one thread while completely ignoring the money savings by not having a deputy PM on another.

Seems like you have already proclaimed judgement.

What's with the hate-on for jbg?

Are you a lawyer? Do you have any proof for these accusations?

Ahhh poor uninformed jdobbin. Precedence is for ceremonial purposes, seating at state dinners that sort of thing, only.

Let's put aside the hysterics and look at this honestly. This wasn't long and drawn out. It was dealt with in less than a year. That is not a long time to deal with a case like this. I am not a lawyer so am not qualified to judge the legal tact the CPC took in this case.

Technically it is the Deputy Prime Minister. Which we don't have at the moment. In the current Government it is fair to say it is Jim Prentice as chair of the Priorities and Planning Committee.

Argus, that's just Fortunata's self-fulfilling fabrication. She feels if she repeats the same falsehood time after time after time people will simply accept it as fact. Good on you for calling her on the fib.

The issue came up in the spring of 2006. It has been corrected within nine months. Your actions reek of close-mindedness and harper-hating.

Yup, your 60% claim isn't provable. But I'm not wasting my time typing out an illustration on the board. All you did was post some random links. We both know you are wrong....

Saturn if you have an issue with me deal with me directly. Fine if you are here to attack the PM and government but at least provide evidence when you do it.

Catchme, Saturn. If you two are enjoying your little Harper-hater circle jerk here's a suggestion for you. www.rabble.ca