French Patriot

Yet your bible says that God decides ahead of time which souls will be given the grace to have faith or not. Faith is overrated. Faith without facts, that create a belief in talking serpents and donkeys, is evil. The supernatural is for the stupid.

Others not. King David's line was to father Jesus, yet Yahweh somehow cuckolded not only the King but Joseph as well. All to produce another God with a evil genocidal attitude. Jesus and his Armageddon. Got to love genocide to be a Christian.

Full ignore to you, a hole child.

I have no time for the stupid and incompetent apologists.

And you did not counter it. Stupid.

Denial without argument. You are a crappy judge and apologist and must love Hitler and Stalin as they mimic your God.

Why would you want to spend your life with a genocidal priock of a God?

??? Have you read the Bible? Who is prophesized to sire Jesus if not a member of King David's line?

Your bible lies about Jesus and who was supposed to sire him, and Christians do not care.

Like you have done in ignoring what your bible says. Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design? Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHYeHN4ZUQ Those quotes seem to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us. The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures. If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith? Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm? Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please? I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed. Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did. What is your choice of those two options? Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars. I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians. What do you think is the truth? Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?

So Yahweh creates defective souls, then blames them and will torture them in hell forever for being defective. OK. Kind of an a hole that Yahweh.

Nothing quite like being judged by an evil genocidal God. Don't worry though. His judgements are always just. Just ask the babies whose skulls Yahweh ordered smashed against stones.

Whatever happened to the prophesy that Jesus was to be sired by a descendent of King David? Just another glitch.

First. One must recognize that Yahweh is a genocidal prock of a God and quite evil. I do not blame you for ignoring the bible that says we cannot fathom that priock because he is just too evil. P.S. Substitutional punishment is quite immoral, so you may not want to apply that vile notion to Jesus' thinking.

Your Bible says we are all born with sin natures. Do you recognize or deny yours? P.S. My patience is about gone with you. If you continue to be bot like and stupid and not show what you can really do, I will put you on ignore. I hate talking to myself and bot like people.

The Bible is full of references showing how Yahweh is un-knowable, unfathomable and is a mystery way above a human pay scale. You knowing your Bible and likely having a better search engine, I am sure I do not need to fetch them from both the Old and New Testaments. Tell us please, how does one recognize a truth from a book that says that the truths of Yahweh cannot be known?

I wanted your definition so that all would know who we ar talking about, hence my, --- What "god" are you talking about here? Now puck off, child who refuses to grow up.

Evasive. Fail as a decent apologists reply. How long will you remain a second rate neophyte?

He says, as his bible contradicts him, by reminding him that God is omni-present. That is why the Bible has a prophet saying that if he goes to heaven, god id there and if he goes to hell, God is there. What is it about omni-present that you do not understand? Seems that you are the low mind here. Yahweh, an androgynous God cannot exist without evil and sin. That is why Christians sing of Adam's sin as a happy fault and necessary to God. They are right. Right?

Not surprised to see you back peddle from what is over your pay grade. Thanks for recognizing how you are greater than any absentee genocidal priock.

Exactly. It cannot be better than it is, and that is perfection for our material system. Here is the old way of looking if you cannot see my humble modern rendering. Let me speak to the lie of Gnostic Christians hating matter. I wrote this to refute the false notion that Gnostic Christians do not like matter and reality that the inquisitors propagated to justify their many murders of my religion’s originators. The Gnostic Christian reality. Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]" "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty." As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do. Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world? Candide."It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

Our sin nature is part of our perfection. Try to understand the ongoing evolving perfection of reality. Let me speak to the lie of Gnostic Christians hating matter. I wrote this to refute the false notion that Gnostic Christians do not like matter and reality that the inquisitors propagated to justify their many murders of my religion’s originators. The Gnostic Christian reality. Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]" "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty." As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do. Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world? Candide. "It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

Really. Not me. Who do you know that has never sinned?

Then why do you have a sin nature that you use frequently? Even here. Your sin nature wants to win debates and make fools of your interlocutor. That is what prompted your stupid and inaccurate statement. I am trying to put a simple explanation together but it is hard to make the less astute see it. See if you get it.