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Which claim was that? Regards DL

Not to me, but if you mean trying to convince us that we should not idol worship a genocidal son murdering God, then that would be a good thing. No? The way I interpret Jesus' preaching, the devil to him was a literal belief in the traditional holy books, literals reading of those myths, organized religion and idol worship, which is what Christians do. Non-believers have sure come up with more moral laws than religions have so I hope you are correct. How have you prepared for Satan's deception and how would you know if her first one was not just to get you to go to where she actually wanted to deceive you to go in the first place? Somewhat like God did with Eve by telling her she should not partake of knowledge when he specifically put Satan in Eden to tempt Eve. Regards DL

I agree. Christians cannot if they believe their book of myths in a literal way. Regards DL

We are on the same page. I have a bullet with Yahweh's name on it. I might have remembered your position but my memory has always been that of an absent minded professor. Regards DL

Which God? The genocidal son murderer? Can you find a God that is not considered a moral monster? I do not mean Satan. She is rather nice compared to Yahweh, especially when you count the murders that Yahweh is shown to have done compared to her. Regards DL

I care because of the damage and harm Christians visit on innocent gays and women with their homophobic and misogynous teachings. Do you know what the Golden Rule is? Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other. "First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)” You asked a lot of good questions. My main question is, why do you idol worship a genocidal son murdering prick of a God? Regards DL

Are believers not a part of the whole world? I am willing to see your quote showing that believers are exempt from that clear statement that says that no one on earth is exempt. God was the first to kill and bring death to earth and he is also the one who puts lies into us and is the father of all liars. Whose name would you put above God's for any attribute when he said he creates all that is evil? Is for heaven. Not here, unless you see earth as heaven the way Gnostic Christian Jesus does. I dealt with that lie in the O.P. Refute what I put or explain why no one can choose life all the time. If you wish to chat, lets do. I do not mind quotes, but I cannot chat with Got question. I want to see how you think and why you promote a genocidal son murdering prick of a God. Not how well you can google. As scriptures say, come and reason. Regards DL

Who has more control of our thinking; God or Satan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcRXeCzpno I don’t know what God or Satan’s game is, but God giving Satan dominion over our political/physical realm as well as the power to deceive our spiritual/religious realm in us all seems counterintuitive to what a good God would do. It seems like God is giving Satan the advantage, in terms of our ability to think without deception or Satan’s undo interference. Rev12;9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Why did God curse us with Satan and her minions? It cannot be to give us free will as none of us have the free will to never sin. If we did have that, we would have some examples of people who never sinned. On another tangent, scriptures say that God himself put’s lies/deception into his prophets and that he decides who will have faith or not by his doling out grace only to those he has pre-selected and thus denies other the ability to have faith or belief. This biblical contradiction, strangely, refutes all that I put above on Satan. Can Christians clear up this contradiction? Regards DL

Tell that logical position and truth to the ones who believe their lying clergy. Believers should return with a thank you for that truth, --- but of course they wont. Regards DL

I think the intelligentsia have destroyed the imaginary supernatural God belief decades, if not centuries agao, yet religions are still harming us due to the lack of non-believers not recognizing that religions are created to fill our tribal/fellowship needs. Some non-believers and atheists are finally recognizing that they have to create mystery schools or lose their children to the more predatory money hungry religious fraudsters. We will always have God and churches. It is to the non-believers to decide if they want to save their children or lose them to fraudsters. We are tribal by nature and our natures must be appeased. It has begun. Regards DL

Kerfuffle No argument on what you put. I agree that religions have slowed man's moral progress. I have been trying to help kill Christianity and Islam for a decade now. They are shrinking and no longer have decent apologists . The final nail in their foul coffin will have to come from atheists and their atheist churches or from those who come out as more like Gnostic Christians. Christianity used their inquisitions on us out of fear of what we could teach. We shed light on their foul God and so had to die. Christian can no longer just murder the way they used to enjoy. Regards DL

Kerfuffle U C 20/20. I think it a duty for moral people like you and I to try to make the death of Christianity move along as quickly as we can so as to end their ongoing damage to society. I hope you can agree with that, and if an atheist, I hope you support the new atheist churches popping up. Regards DL

Not judge! Seriously, when your bible tells you the wisdom of judging all things? 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. You are told to use the same standard of judgement that you would apply to yourself. Not to not judge. That would be really stupid. How would you know that God was good if you did not judge him? You have judged the genocidal son murderer as good. Right? Regards DL

What does being Catholic have to do with your views? Does a genocidal God set your morals, when Yahweh is shown to have satanic morals? Regards DL

Strange that in the abortion issue, no one speaks of the right of the child to have a loving parent and not one that was forced to have an unwanted child. That and the costs to a decent life for the child that the taxpayer does not want to help contribute to. Regards DL

I am surprised he did not exempt Blacks and Mexicans from his statement. Regards DL

Oops. Regards DL

True to your name. Regards DL

Not too surprising seeing as most immorality these days are being pushed by the vile homophobic and misogynous religions like Christianity and Islam. Regards DL

Are you meditating? Regards DL

The revealed religions like Christianity and Islam, for sure. I do not see the knowledge and wisdom seeking religions as anywhere near as vile. Regards DL

You are not being a realist and are ignoring the stats. Regards DL

You are a real Goddess. Here is how you grow your spirituality. I use the words of the bible and Jesus, but just replace Jesus with any mantra of your choice, as that is all that Jesus is, and meditate. You are not to look for a supernatural God, but for what Jung and Freud called the Mother Complex. It is where your deepest instincts come from and are likely in the right hemisphere of your mind. That is the more Eastern mystic type of thinking and I have had a personal success and can tell you it can work, if you do the work. This sound quite religious but ignore that and seek your Mother Complex. If you look up that term, do not work it into Freud's Oedipus Complex. It does not apply. Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded Regards DL

I will thank you for the nothing you gave other than deflections and showing you cannot back what you say and are childish enough to blame me for your inadequacies. Ok. Thanks for showing us your character. Regards DL

You are likely correct. That is why we should not take any of the bible literally. Care to tell us if you see the bible and other religions doing/teaching what the O.P. suggests? Are Gods to rule us or are we to rule over them? Regards DL