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I think you are looking for the word, tradition. I do not know who the someone is that you are talking about. Regards DL

With ironic respect. Should we thank God that religionists are such hypocrites? The religions that offer a supernatural God are basically authoritarian religions with tyrannical Gods. They are quite divisive and if Christians and Muslims do not do things just right, they get to burn forever in in a purposeless hell. Yahweh and Allah are mean demiurges. https://vimeo.com/7038401 In terms of following their religions to the letter, I see both Christians and Muslims as being quite hypocritical and I thank all the Gods for that. If Christians and Muslims did live by the barbaric ideals their religions and Gods wanted, the inquisitions and jihads would force the rest of us to eliminate those fouls religions for reasons of self-defence. Let us thank all the good Gods that Christians and Muslims do not practice their religions and are such hypocrites. Let us thank all the Gods that Christians and Muslims are moral enough to be hypocrites and only give lip service to their vile religious ideologies and imaginary Gods. How many Christians are hypocrites? This link says the vast majority right at the beginning of the link, and I would say that the same number applies to Muslims even though their mosque attendance is higher than the Christian one due to culture more than religion. Jesus for the non religious - Retired bishop John Spong on religion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUmKEH9jnu8 Regards DL

My journey from within showed God to be fluent in French and English. Regards DL

Your argument convinced me. Regards DL

Were religions the first propagators of Fake News? Fake News is considered to be lies or distortions of the truth. The first wholesale use of lies may have been religions. Ancient temple inventions meant to fool people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BHvN6rZZA What Do Con Artists and Religious Leaders Have in Common? With Maria Konnikova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DfJVjEMlc&t=4s Do you think religions were the first propagators of Fake News? Do you think that the term fraud can be applied to most supernaturally based religions? Regards DL

Yes. The curse of any ideology, especially an immoral one like Christianity. Regards DL

He is demonstrably a liar. Same old same old reason all fraudsters emerge. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Martin+Luther+indulgences&&view=detail&mid=6DB2C12344263EDF8D846DB2C12344263EDF8D84&&FORM=VDRVRV Regards DL

Yes, but who is the villain and who is the hero? Regards DL

Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct? “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” Richard Dawkins. I say shame on all Christians for not judging justly and being morally corrupt. I offer as evidence of Yahweh’s corruption one simple fact. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. This is god setting a bribe price to reverse his usual justice of punishing the innocent to punishing the guilty. This shows his moral and ethical corruption. It also show Jesus as just as corrupt as he went along with it. Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. What is your judgement? Regards DL https://vimeo.com/7038401

Some few have that problem. Thankfully not most. Clearing things up are what discussion is all about. Regards DL

You are saying but I have no idea what you meant. A church cannot be gay. No junk. Well not the right junk in any case. Regards DL

I have no needs that a church can assuage. Do you? Regards DL

The story of dogs is not what is hurting society by creating a homophobic and misogynous religion. Go away, fool. Regards DL

Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate? Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam. Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil. Would you do as Adam did? Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate? Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love? Regards DL

Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity? I see more than one Jesus speaking through the bible. The good Jesus would likely condemn while the less moral and good Jesus that most follow might not. A number of his policies have been found wanting, --- in moral terms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ Dogma says that Jesus ascended to heaven and his rightful place as judge of the universe at Yahweh’s right hand. The pure hand says tradition. Would Jesus dethrone Yahweh for the insane genocidal example he shows for a god, or would Jesus somehow justify what Yahweh, and himself to Trinitarians, did? Would Jesus say that genocide was good? Heaven forbid. Condemn or Condone? I say Jesus would condemn Yahweh. What say you my moral friends? https://vimeo.com/7038401 Regards DL

Correct, yet that myth has been used to create the misogynous Christianity of today. Regards DL

Better than you think if you do not recognize the myth of A & E as not being a part of Christian dogma. You have made quite a fool out of yourself with your assumptions. Go away fool. Regards DL

Stay in your pathetic mind set. Regards DL

Well, part of my life is dedicated to ending the ongoing misogyny that the church has used to discriminate against women forever, so I have so usefulness in my life. You might want to add usefulness to your pathetic life. Regards DL

If you do not see the harm religions do with their homophobic and misogynous teachings, and the fraud they do as the more gullible send them their pension checks, then from YPOV, there would not be a reason. Do you see that harm? Indeed. I call that child abuse. Do you? So do I but only if those who see the evils of religion fight back. We are still in an era where we still have religions protecting pedophiles and the general population turns a blind eye. Make your case with examples. Regards DL

1. Sure, that should be corrected if possible. Right? 2. Existence or not becomes the side issue when it is the moral fibre that is the issue. I do not care if a theist maintains his belief in whatever god he idol worships, as long as he sees the immorality in him/her/it. 3. What way would you use that has shown more success? ==================== I gave a reply elsewhere that speaks to these issues. It might be worth you reading before you reply. ================== "Point being - we know human ignorance, we have ideas on how to deal with human ignorance that don't cause them to double-down in the wrong direction (polite persuasion being the key on not having the later happen), We have ideas, sure, but I have seen them fail more than win out. People are belligerent and stand by their 2 + 2 = 5 regardless of how persuasive the argument that 2 + 2 = 4 is. Sheeple are sheeple regardless of the religion. Their bubbles are impregnable to logic and reason as their morals have been corrupted by their religious beliefs. That is why, in Christianity's case, they can justify in their own twisted thinking the adoration of a genocidal son murdering prick of a god. I have seen too many soft spoken good hearted people get s**t on by brainwashed sheeple, but if you have an example somewhere where you have seen a successful communication as you suggest is possible, I would be pleased to see your method at work. I am always eager to see a good intelligent dialog. Regards DL P.S. I have had a good number of lurkers tell me that their thinking changed after reading an exchange between myself and an interlocutor, but I have only a few examples where the interlocutor came to my side. I have not seen any other posters fare any better.

Those nutty beliefs do a lot of harm to society by creating homophobic and misogynous religions. Do you not think engaging believers in the moral fibre of their immoral gods a worthy endeavor? Do you not think that correcting poor thinking is a worthy endeavor given the harm those beliefs cause? Regards DL

Beliefs should always remain somewhat malleable so that new information that is worthy is allowed to enter the mind. What stuff specifically are you referring to? And if you want an answer, then give your opinion on the O.P. so that I might get a clue as to your thinking, --- or go wanting. Regards DL

I do not mind biblical information that is pertinent but many Christians give a wall of meaningless text and I did specify preaching. Further, I replied with information from the bible, as you saw before writing this post. Regards DL

I can only show what is reported in the bible, but if you are so biblically illiterate that you do not recognize or are unaware of when Yahweh is shown to kill, then I am not interested in walking you through the bible. I will give you this though and invite you to answer the main question of, --- what kind of God would torture and murder an innocent baby as in the King David story? Regards DL