French Patriot

If we have dominion here, then Satan does not, and the temptation of Jesus in the desert was a sham or lie. Christians keep wanting their cake and eat it too. Regards DL

I see you do not see the humor in one frog calling the other a frog. I hope my French friend has better vision. Regards DL

Prove it, --- frog? Regards DL

Many people put tribal affiliations before their moral sense. Many parents know what is going on but keep putting their cash in the collection basket the bastard clergy will use for air fare to move the pedophile priests to new hunting grounds. This is of course after the victim is victimized again by his parents, by turning his rape into a paid for act of prostitution. by accepting a bribe from the church to shut up. All those bastards, other than the victims, should have a big bat shoved into them. No. I have never been a victim. I just know a few too many. Regards DL

I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours? As a Gnostic Christian, I follow the esoteric teachings of Jesus. atthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. This fits perfectly with the bibles teachings that we are to judge all things and hold to the good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. This is a compulsion to be our own masters instead of just kowtowing to someone else’s opinions. This is also why Christians used their inquisitions on us. Freedom of thought was not allowed by Christianity. A concept and freedom that Christians now seem to promote. Many Christians follow the teachings of, to us, a genocidal and infanticidal demiurge, Yahweh. How Christians can see him as a good god is beyond me and Christians shy away from any apologetics as to why they think such a satanic god is good. I see my judgements as more moral than that immoral demiurge and that is why I have rejected him for Jesus. Do you follow 1 Thessalonians 5:21, or do you let someone else do your judging for you? Regards DL

Can't face reality eh. Oh well. Regards DL

I know it better than you do. It taught me that genocide was wrong, and here you are saying that genocide is good. You might want to get your head out of god's ass and recognize that your blood thirsty thinking is more satanic like than god like. Your first is an outright lie and you lie so easily about things that are just hear say to you. And you would preach to me. Get the log out of your eye. Regards DL

Yes. Note how our friend could not even answer this simple moral question. She would have to destroy her own theology to make substitutional punishment moral. Regards DL

Yes, god should apologise for his sloppy work. Regards DL

There are many things impossible for god. Like showing his genocidal face or reproducing without a human. If you do not see deficiencies in Yahweh, you have a satanic moral sense. If Jesus was human as you say, then your dogma says that he had Original Sin. Why would god punish Jesus for his poor creating powers that seem to make more evil souls than good souls. What is moral about a blood sacrifice that targets the innocent instead of the guilty Regards DL

Interesting read till you went off line. No. I did not say that. Gnostic Christians are Universalists and recognize the perfection of heaven around us that Jesus preached about. The heaven he said you cannot see. Were you born good or were you made to be so by all the people you have interacted with? Your answer should answer to the notion of people being born evil. They are not and all who interacted with those souls share in their pleasure or pain and responsibility for their outcome. Regards DL

And character if I might add. Gnostic Christians have called him a vile demiurge forever. Moral people would, yet Christians adore that prick. Regards DL

You are saying, at least to my ear, that Jews have Gnostic Christian beliefs. I agree as I see Gnostic Christianity as beginning with esoteric Chrestians and Jews before Christianity stole the Jewish god from the Jews and made a decent god into a genocidal prick. Christians stupidly take, fear of god, quite to heart. Regards DL

? Like what? Regards DL

Commies? Like Hitler who was helped by the Vatican to kill Jews. Hitler, Yahweh, Stalin. All genocidal pricks living in hell. Regards DL

God is a cruel prick for taking evil out of people and putting it in poor innocent pigs. Why not just send that evil to hell. The more I learn of god, the bigger a prick he becomes. Regards DL

Guilty as charged. My sympathy for your never having had that pleasure. I wish it was your porky. Regards DL

It was that night you were drunk and busy dancing with a hussy. Took a video but not of what your wife was doing elsewhere. regards DL

So do I. Regards DL

Yes, god bores easily. That is why he focuses on the greater good. No. Hate is a product of love and should be encouraged, with restraint. Gods like us, as scriptures say, have a loving duty to correct the less; I lack the adjective. I agree to some extent with your last. We all know what morals we should be following but have created systems that hinder that. The ancients forecasted this in both the religious and political spheres. We need to elect a new god and are hindered by the; I lack the adjective. Regards DL

I could show you atheist stats that show better than believer morals via the World Piece Index and other links to why you should put more faith in man as we are the only gods you may ever see. You are true to you name my friend. Some hero will show up to enlighten you. Regards DL

I do not see why you would say that. I see nothing wrong with banks and or lending money as long as it does not cross the usury line. I can understand why people turned on the Jews to some extent. I think it is almost instinctual to hate, to some degree, that which is fitter than we are and Jews, as bankers, would have been naturally hated, unfortunately. The drug trade calls it turning on the pusher. I think that the Jews were smart enough to know this, but the benefits must have outweighed the down side. In modern times, hopefully the general population will catch up to intelligent thinking and racism will reduce as the worlds colors meld. Many Canadians, although still racist, are likely to reduce in this discrimination faster than most. This white guy has already become a minority in my area and I am sure glad that I have never been racist. Regards DL

I see it working better that way as well and use his way to enlightenment. That being meditation. That, of course, is not the parts of the bible that the lying preachers use. I have to bother with the rabble thought because of the harm I see them doing to many. Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways. Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations. Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality. https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these. Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these. Regards DL

First. Thanks for an interesting read. I did not read where he challenged the money lenders so much as the money changers. Jews had to pay tribute to the temple with Roman coins and I think that that is why the scribes put Jesus' fit into the bible. I think the bible does use the term money lenders but that might have been Christians trying to discredit Jews. The hate started early in Christianity. I agree wholeheartedly. Jesus was a perpetual seeker and asked us to be the same. Gnostic Christians take that to heart but it is discarded by Christians who are idol worshipers of a genocidal and infanticidal god that they can somehow see as goods. Here we disagree depending perhaps on your definition. I live by the adage that, --- for evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing. In this case, only share positive energy. I see hate being born of love. When we decide to have a love bias to something or someone, we automatically create a hate bias against anything that might jeopardize that which is loved. In light of that, I see much in religion that jeopardizes that which I love and I spend most of my time fighting those evils. I hope that makes sense to you. Regards DL

Was Jesus born with Original Sin? If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice. If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie. Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion? Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems? Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept? Regards DL