French Patriot

I was not sure given the tone of your post and some of the weird comments and misuse of the term "murder". Regards DL

The tax payers are not interested in supporting unwanted children who will just add to the social costs because of their unhappiness levesl, povertu and criminal tendencies. Have you not noticed how that group is over represented in our jails? Do you want more neighbours of that ilk? Are you willing to pay a lot more in taxes to bring them to our normal standards? I am not as the results are dismal. BTW. The embryo or zygote is a potential human from the moment the egg reacts to fertilization. Not at some other arbitrary time. How many women are you ready to see die from botched abortion procedures in some dirty back room? What Number of babies saves equals what number of dead women? Regards DL

Good luck selling that. Even the ancients, who were a lot brighter than we think, who tried to sanctify sex, failed. If people will not abstain for their gods, they will not for themselves. I think that either the new generations of the males you put stats up on above are either really wimpy these days or my generation was a lot tougher. Even not the best sex was good sex. Regards DL

They hardly investigate many assault and rape charges and treat our victims to more victimization. Canada is good, but we have a ways to go. As any victim of a pedophile priest. Regards DL

The states who make abortions hard or impossible are just exporting jobs to other more progressive states. They may even create a shortage of doctors in their states as doctors move away from the morally backward states that trained them. Wait till they see the real social cost of making women slaves to the state. Regards DL

True, but if the taxpayer has to support unwanted children who will cost our courts and jails heavily as well as our social safety net, then it is in all of our best interests to have our feeling known. Did you note how quickly our friend ran from addressing those points? Regards DL

Not even on the topics and questions I asked you. The child was at issue and not the cost of an abortion. If all you can do is deflect, you show you cannot argue your position coherently. Regards DL

Betsy. What does your bible say will happen to the vast majority of souls that are born? Will most end in heaven or hell? What is the best way for a soul to beat the horrible odds that have the vast majority of us ending in hell? It would be killing the fetus. Right? Regards DL

Are you willing to pay a rather larger amount of taxes to maintain all the welfare babies that would be around if the right to lifers had their way? Do you see you as having the responsibility to insure the best, non-welfare life and the reduction of the horrible stats that those children produce? Would you force your ilk to pay more taxes directly to those you have forced to have an unwanted child? Would you like to be one of those unwanted children? Regards DL

The title says it all and I thought you might like the song. Thanks for the shit attitude. Regards DL

Yes, but Regards DL

That is the thing. To her, who was likely brainwashed as a child, it may not be willful. She may have suffered the indoctrination you see in this link. Don't get me wrong. Her kind must be brought out of their delusions and conditioning as we must continue to fight the evil they produce. Knowing why they do it is all that I am trying to show here. Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac Regards DL

No argument, but I would have thrown her own bible quote at her. You showed the nail but did not drive it into her heart where it might have an effect with her own WORD of god. Regards DL

The WORD of god is full of inconvenient truths of what their vile god is. Faith forces the more stupid to argue against the WORD of god. God always has good reasons to do murder to those too blind to see that murder is not mercy. Curing in stead of killing like Jesus did shows should be done proves he is not Yahweh but the blind and stupid theists do not care about that inconvenient truth. Fell sorry for them as they know not what they do. Regards DL

Betsy Here too you show what a pathetic thinker you are. You even attack Dawkins when he was not the expert showing the stats I talked about. Regards DL

Betsy You are a pathetic thinker. Regards DL

Likely because he and his wife think they should decide what they wish to do with their bodies and lives and not have you tell them what to do with them. Would you like to be told how to live your private life? Would you encourage your daughter to have a child after being raped? Would you be the proud grandmother of a rapists offspring? Would you tell that child how he or she came to be, especially if it was not daddy's color, should your daughter be lucky enough to child find a husband in a world where 50% of all households are manned by single women? Would you subject yourself to such a life? I do not expect an honest answer. Regards DL

True, but only after Christianity plagiarized and changed the Chrestian man above god ideology. The Karaite Jews and Gnostic Christians continue with that thinking today. That is when all hell broke loose, so to speak. Regards DL

Of course. Do you see the mythical tale as Jesus loving us or stalking us? Regards DL

Unrelated to my question and are you always this dumb? Regards DL.

Oh my. I wish I could click that love button many times. My avatar color is quite strange when I blush. Best regards DL

I agree with your view. I have seen and heard of some religious people picketing abortion clinics and talking some women out of their abortions with promises of help, which disappeared soon after the birth. Those foul religious liars do not care that, statistically, such children do not fare well in society. Those Christians also ignore the fact that their vile god used genocide and murdered many innocent children and babies yet are quick to forgive him for the same thing they condemn our abortion seeking women for. That double moral standard is quite immoral. Regards DL

You might like this that speaks to that.

Jesus is only found in a book of myths and if I am to try to engage Christians in a discussion, I have to use their terminology. It matters not that the Yahweh Christianity usurped from the Jews was androgynous, just like most of the older and wiser gods, and that is why I used he. Have you analyzed their myth and do you think it a moral ideology? Regards DL

No particularly, but it does tell me that many Christians in the U.S. are. Follow the money of who pay for that vile law to be passed in Uganda, then comer back and tell us which of the loony right wing Christian denominations in the U. S. moral people should target. Death to Gays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE Regards DL