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Please, please stop hating Trudeau will you? Justine is not the problem here, only a manifestation of the true essence and core values of the system that came to stay (forever as it stands.. or till the hard stop more likely). See what can be done with it, here, and here and here we go again? Because we can. Just watch us! Suppose you want to be different, allow your representatives to have opinions and voices. While they, the other head, beat them into the party line with a rubber stick. And what then, the next obvious condition? You loose, always. So, to beat them in this game you have to become like them, their identical twin. The endgame. Of course you could (like in a quantum Universe this option always exists) choose real, meaningful change. Give people the choice and free yourself at the same time from the sad, pathetic destiny that cannot be avoided with any volume of cheerful speeching. But... the place at the trough, what would happen to it? Compete as equals with a dozen of political newbies where nothing is assured? Nope, no such luck. So you're a slave too now. To the trough and the system attached to it. Can't change one without loosing the other. And that's just too bad.

Indeed. I would say that any FPTP-based system is naturally predisposed to a strong partisan division, and it is really difficult to argue that. Unique and strong democracies like UK and USA have consciously, deliberately and meticulously worked out intelligent and effective, to an extent, mechanisms and forms to mitigate that trait. But Canada never even cared to think or notice. And now the partisan status quo is entrenched and cemented to such an extent that no meaningful change is possible any longer because it would by definition disadvantage both of the default parties, at this time having really not a lot common with genuine parliamentary parties in real democracies. That is a one way tunnel that Canada has got into entirely by own efforts (or rather absence of intelligent involvement and responsibility) and I personally don't have an idea how this could be solved going forward in the medium term. One obvious possibility is a chronically spreading general crisis of public administration. Are we seeing the first symptoms?

Someone was quoting ratings but that summarizes the status quo pretty well. Now, add that your choice is restricted to the absolute minimum: either this default management corporation, or that (by the simplest notion that if you wouldn't put your finger for one, the other wins by default). Now, in what relation is this picture to a) democracy and b) modern, functional, effective and transparent full democracy?

That's weird already.... Everybody or many can see that something isn't right, in plain sight. And - silence. Because it's as it should be. Because the Supreme Guru said so. 0.5 deaths monthly before the treatment, 3-5 after, all is great for the greater goodness. Some decades on, the Guru will declare a holy commission of inquiry, out of your pocket. Weird... but OK. Good to know.

I'd like to ask a specialist here, @SpankyMcFarland please: 1. Recommending a preventative treatment, including in a public, generic fashion including through mass media, that is a) essentially not needed to a patient (the risk of the condition, in a general case, extremely low) while b) possible long-term effects, unverified and therefore unknown: 1) ethical and 2) compatible with the professional standard of the medical profession? 2. Not notifying the public immediately and clearly about possible side effects where it was a) possible and b) directly within the range of duties to monitor, detect and notify a) competent and b) compatible with the professional standard?

First kids under 11 got vaccinated Nov. 23, 2021: CTV https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/first-canadian-kids-under-12-get-vaccinated-against-covid-19-1.5678502 The control number of Covid-related fatal cases, 0-11 total as of 3.12.2021: 8 (web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20211210171822/https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/) Same number, 15.11.2022: 41 (+33, just under a year) (web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20221120074934/https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/) Same number 30.01.2023: 47(+6, less 2.5 months) (Statista: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/). If the trend continues, expectation for 2023: 29. 1. March 2021 to December 2021: 8 cases, 21 months 2. 12.21 to 11.22: 33 cases, 12 months 3. 11.22 to 01.23: 6 cases, 2.5 months: look above, almost the same as in p.1 (almost two years)

Folks, this can be a serious matter, like serious. Eleven child deaths in two years, thirty six in just over one. Can we get anything real done here other than babbling into the cosmic void? We have three time points in a trajectory. It's not great but can suffice for a hypothesis. Let's ask real professionals, competent and sane to figure it out, there's no use of those sad parody figureheads in the TV regardless of how much public dough they rake. What's needed: snapshots need to be supported by references to real data, like links or published. Can those be gotten for the snapshots 07.11.22 and 10.12.2021? It'll then be posted to an international research forum on the subject.

Exactly

An imitation of, as already stated. While British citizens managed to create and maintain a living and evolvable democracy in Canada they just copied it, like a snapshot put it on the wall in a frame and never bothered to think again.

You're making it sound like they do it happily and entirely voluntarily. Here's a thing, in Ontario there's something like Great Opportunities Fund where one can voluntarily donate on top of the taxes. I wonder what the totals could be annually. For some reason, it's never published. In any place where there's severe penalty otherwise people will pay taxes because they have no better choice. Make it fun if you want to know the real answer: make it voluntary. Same with the tuk-tuk free elections, by the way.

Isn't this an epitome of great Canada democracy (quasi) in one short example? What is a "school board"? A bunch of bureaucrats hired by the government and responsible, and loyal to it 100% as their employer. Now the happy bunch (again: of government bureaucrats 100% owned by the government and with zero democratic legitimacy) creates a code of conduct and a policy. Wait: what democratic mandate do they have to create codes and policies for the schools, without any transparency, public discussion, approval by legitimate representatives? Go figure. And then, you elected representative is sanctioned under the policy and the code. What? You see now who is running the show? And who is in it a minor, insignificant figurehead? You don't really need to figure that out: just see. Right here.

Then there's this question that cannot be avoided now: is this behavior compatible with professional standard of quality medicine in a first world, democratic society? One thing is to say that certain prophylactic treatment is available for those who chose to use it; another is to actively promote and peddle it, including in mass media, to patients with virtually non-existent serious risks and without confident knowledge of possible side effects. Again: is it compatible with the professional standard? or... anything goes from now on, for the great greater good?

It's at 47 now, January 30: six more in less than three months vs. 11 in two years; if the trend continues will be in the high twenties for the year. That's over four times compared to before QV peddled persistently and tirelessly for under five group even with minuscule microscopic risk in this group. It needs to be reported and investigated by serious professionals not Canada's syringe-happy exSpert"" bunch. How does one get the data for an earlier date? It will be reported to an international research panel.

That's what you think because you've been conditioned and never bothered to check it independently and objectively, but the obvious reality tells you otherwise. Instantly.

This can be a matter of serious concern and I'm thinking of reporting it in an international professional forum. I'd like to know is there any prior context to this finding, including discussions, arguments, explanations including changes of reporting standard, errors, other inconsistencies? Or you just stumbled upon it. Thanks.

Who wants to start a thread here like this (approximately): this critical area of public policy is in a great shape, all major problems solved and leading the world in effectiveness and efficiency?

"Because we can".

In China, during quasi-staged rituals. And in a real democracy, each and every day. Just choose one.

Let's consider that wisdom some closer. So a government can do what it likes having no need to talk, explain, meet with the citizens or even make sense. Justices go on months long dispatches to restaurants couldn't be bothered to notice. And when citizens take to the streets, a normal regular event in a democracy see that little paper handy? they are labeled that. Question: what country was it? Was it Russia, or China maybe? Did someone say, number 1 of the greatest democracies, in the rating?

In one worthy endeavor Canada has outdone the Almighty themselves: they couldn't create a stone that they couldn't lift. Canada, but of course, here we go! (wasn't even hard... like took no time at all and now at last to the restaurant, on the peasants dime)

A scenario Government discovers new superinfectious epidemic, R=1000. Three cases in Blahcity. Exsperts (handpicked out of quantum vacuum, paid outrageously from public pocket) recommend total shutdown of the country. Prohibition of public gatherings, curfew effective immediately for as long as necessary. Representatives (aka employees - m.) shown some sad bull. Maverick opposition member trying to ask questions shut down by the happy majority in the committee. Supreme Justice heads for a great restaurant next door to perform democratic checks on the executive. Free" (like in, zero value - m.) media departs to investigate the mysteries of the virus but already can report on the grave risks. Elections postponed, for as long as necessary and for our own good obviously. You say, a scary movie, Vendetta? But look around, what would it take? Only one whim.

Oh yes another crisis what are we at, by now? With no meaningful change possible now even in theory, how far is it for the happy bus to a hard stop?

Nobody in the great system bothered to check why the count has doubled in a year (assuming correctness)? That's just too bad. What about those bonuses though?

I have to state right off, I didn't check the numbers but if they are valid, in a real democracy (see another topic) it would have been a subject of a serious, detailed and in depth public, including real expert (without 's' in the middle) inquiry. Maybe a blip in the statistics but how do we know until we know? P.S. this is how fast hurray for your own good hype can become seriously problematic. "Because we can".