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They'll end up supporting each other - they're basically the same.

With her big plans of more spending.....taxing corporations (who'll be the ones to shoulder all the spending she's planning, she said - how many businesses will move out of Ontario?)....and her stance on back-to-legislation which will put us at the mercy of the union..... .........Horvath is our worst nightmare!

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/05/23/horwath-and-wynne-trade-shots-over-labour-policy.html Horvath is against back-to-work legislations. I have to agree with Wynne. It's Horvath's ideology as a socialist, that's the driving force. Horvath's going to put Ontarians at the mercy of the Union(s). If we don't pay up what's demanded (no matter how ridiculous), and no settlement is reached - garbage could pile up, there'll be no transporation, or nurses and PSWs, or daycare works, teachers, etc.., How can she be so sure that she'll never have the need to use it? Does that sound like she's sensible?

Exactly! That's why it's doubly idiotic to lump all religion, and to expect religious books to meet your standard. We're talking about Israel and Hamas..........but you got into the sky-daddy, and other gods, and why I think Christianity is true. That tirade of yours, just shows how convoluted your thinking is. Sounds like someone isn't having a good day.......

Whether they had support or not, doesn't change the fact that the war lasted only 6 days. And Israel had built herself up in such a short time to become the Israel we have today. That's amazing! What's religion got to do with it??? Did I say anything about my belief?

It's not a matter of shedding tears. It's a matter of being realistic. Israel has the right to be aggressive to any nation that want to see them annihilated. That they have the power - so much the better.

Where should the Palestinians go? That's their effing problem, isn't it? They're stupid enough to say Israel doesn't have the right to exist at all - and yet, when push comes to shove, they can't go anywhere? Who got them in that situation?

Yep, it was one side during that USA embassy inauguration protest. It was the Palestinians who were aiming to turn it violent. It's one-sided when one side just want to annihilate you because they believe you shouldn't exist at all. Israel has all the right to be aggressive!

Pundits seems to be saying it's a tie for all. Here are the criticisms: Horvath kept interrupting; seen as combative. Ford didn't give details on his platform Wynne for her "I'm not sorry...." script - which could be like waving a red flag to a bull. My take: Andrea Horvath doesn't know what she's on about. She kept accusing Ford of being disrespectful to voters for not giving details to his platforms - and yet at the same time she was quite disrespectful to all viewers last night for trying to drown out the other two (by her incessant interruptions). In case it's lost to her, a debate isn't a Horvath monopoly. As to Wynn - she can really look you in the face, and lie. And I think.....she indeed, believes her own lies. I wish Ford would speak a little bit faster than that. I'm almost wanting to pull the words out of his mouth as he spoke. But he played it well - he doesn't have to give details to his platforms. Why should he? For the other two to have a chance to steal them? Details are not important when a politician cannot be trusted anyway - like the way Wynne treated her details" like, not going to sell Hydro 1 (and she didn't follow her detail, did she?) Yeah, Horvath gave a few details as to where she's going to pull the billions of dollars to support her humonguous planned spendings - but what's the real detail on "PAY a LITTLE BIT MORE TAXES?" How "little is "a bit more?" She makes it sound like it's nothing at all. She's trying to seem open, but her words are ambiguous. There's really no detail there. It's kinda like the same amount of details Ford had said that he'll look into efficiency by talking to the front-liners (the ones who really see and has the experience of what's going on)......except that Ford gave the practical detail! He gave his track record - and no one got laid off. You can't ask for anymore than that. All Ford has to do is say what he aims to do - and if he gets into power, deliver them!

Something seems to be lost to you. You don't need to see anyone actually getting blown up - human shields don't have to be blown up. They're there to prevent any retaliation from Israel. I gave you a news source. Islamic jihadist are known to use children for bombings, like the Boko Haram.......and the latest incidents of families blowing themselves up in Indonesia. And, Hamas had used children as shields, in order to win sympathy. I'm not using my Christianity as an argument, but I do know why you have to bring that up. Time to raise the Christian card.

Look at the photo-ops. They always show young people and children. It's beginning to be stale - and the shock factor is now diminishing because people get used to these photo-ops. Heck, some jihadists even put bombs on children. When people get disensitized seeing children getting blown up.....what will they use next? The disabled?

Here are the human shields! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/gaza-protests-take-off-ahead-of-new-us-embassy-inauguration-in-jerusalem/2018/05/14/eb6396ae-56e4-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?utm_term=.09020705098a And here are the monsters who are encouraged by anti-semites to keep doing what they do to other human beings. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/gaza-protests-take-off-ahead-of-new-us-embassy-inauguration-in-jerusalem/2018/05/14/eb6396ae-56e4-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?utm_term=.09020705098a It was a deliberate attack by the enabled Islamists terrorists. Israel - like any other nation - can use whatever force they deem necessary to defend their borders. No one can put a limit as to how a nation should defend itself. Like I say, national security isn't a hockey game. You can all scream "excessive force" till your lungs give out. There is no such thing as "foul" when you're defending your own.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/50-of-dead-in-gaza-protest-were-hamas-activists-says-hamas-official-1.6094899 At the fence? You don't go to the fence if your intentions are civil. Furthermore, the fact that Islamic jihadists are among the various factions of "protesters" is reason enough for the Israeli soldiers to do what they did. You don't wait for jihadists to make their move. The violence started with the hoisting of Palestinian flags. The Palestinians had breached the condition that no Palestinian flags will be hoisted. https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-u-s-embassy-protest-in-jerusalem-turns-violent-1.6091477

By whose rules???? Anyway, I'm talking warfare rules. As an example, does Hamas - or jihadists - wear uniforms? They don't! They blend with the civilians! Here are the rules! https://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/customary-law-rules.pdf https://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/irrc_853_pfanner.pdf So....you're trying to justify Hamas using people as shields? See what I mean? You folks are..... enablers of terrorism.

Good! Because had it been the other way around.....we wouldn't be talking about any Israel at all. Jews would've been long extinct! The amazing thing about Israel isn't only winning the 6-day war (when she was outnumbered and surrounded by enemies). It's how she built herself up in such a short time to become the powerhouse that she is today!

Now that you've opened up......funny, huh.....because to me, you are an idiot. Nothing personal. To you, we are idiots for what we believe. To me, you - and others like you - are an idiot for your ignorance about our belief. See? You even provided something to support what I've just said. And, you don't even realize it. isn't that idiocy by ignorance? You've lumped us all together. To be fair, you say. Nope. Because as you say, you're pissed off about these books that don't meet your standard. Why would you care that these books do......"not shine good light on any of the religions?" You have serious anger issues too, if you let that kind of thing bother you to the point that you lash out the way you do. So you're pissed off. Like you're about to have a fit? Your tone is escalating actually as we go along.......as your temperature rises, I suppose. Do you have high blood pressure, I wonder? Anyway, that's my observation.... Not fairness - actually it's rather unfair that you lump Christians with Islamist terrorists. Fairness has nothing to do with what you've said. It's because you're an idiot.

You must be happy with the latest poll.

Hold on a sec. Here's an article that explains: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/01/internet-famous-in-the-west-bank/549557/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/palestinian-ahed-tamimi-accepts-plea-deal-to-serve-eight-months-in-jail This isn't about a regular every-day Palestinian. They're a family of activists!

Boy, how stupid can we get? When we're at war with terrorism - you say we should follow rules??? YOUR OPPONENT IS NOT PLAYING BY ANY RULES! Your opponent isn't playing by any rules.....and you make up rules to tie yourself up with it???

Bottom line: A nation can defend itself by whatever force is necessary! No one can dictate how one should defend one's own borders. This cockamamie "rule" that's being enforced by those who insist you should match what your opponent's capabilities are, is ridiculous! "Not fair!.....not fair!" What are they? Kids? National security......is not a hockey game!

I didn't quote the question that was previously asked. I'm asking and giving my opinion on a different example.

Does forcibly using a person as a human shield for bullets and bombs deserve lesser time in prison compared to actually shooting that human shield? I think the first one deserves more time in prison - since being used as a shield, is also a form of torture.

No. Those people would've been better off under Israel.....than being under the thumb of monsters, who think nothing of stoning and beheading them.....and using them for shields! There wouldn't be any rampant random murders by jihadists that we see now. The world would've been a better place!