Here's an Orwell quote that should resonate to Canadians under the Trudeau government: “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”

Well, leftist folks can do your usual knee-jerks, and the inevitable, obligatory name-calls to pass off as "rebuttals"......but I'm giving examples of those leftist mindset that I talk about in my OP.

Why don't you show where, and explain how? You were referring to Orwell's prediction. Of course, I assumed it was from 1984. Which prediction is that? Be precise.

That's okay. Trudeau, (not Trump), is our nation's leader - he has to answer to Canadians. That's our civic duty.

Read your statement (in red). If it's used as the main reason why the State of Israel got created - then, it's being used as the reason. Whether you think they're justified to use it, or whether they completely forgot or ignored the planning stage from 60 years past, or whether it's a bullshit reason....... is not the point. The State of Israel became a reality in 1948! As for your analogy on war on terror and 9/11 - that's not correctly stated, if you want to use that analogy. The 9/11 attack being the reason for starting the war on terror may be bullshit (according to you), but it still stands that 9/11 attack had started the war on terror. The 9/11 attack is analogous to the Holocaust. The war on terror is analogous with the creation of State of Israel. Go ahead. Review from where we started on this - page 387.

Never mind about Mulroney and the GST. Ontario is in the red - with this huge deficit we've got, thanks to Wynne. If Horwath wins, she' ll be adding another huge one on top of that! And of course, if Wynne hadn't scared off businesses - Horwath, being a socialist, will terrify the daylights out of them! We'd really be doomed. You may have your own way at saving cost - unfortunately, so many Ontarians don't have that option. So many are living from paycheck to paycheck as it is! That's why majority of Canadians from all parties, prefer spending cuts to start reducing our deficit. Liberals are busy squandering money elsewhere - like that stupid open invitation Trudeau had issued to the world - - instead of doing something to prepare for the changing climate! If they are squandering money - they can't be serious about climate change. Talk is cheap. They're simply parroting what will get them votes! If they aren't so serious about what they say is a crucial climate change period - then why should we believe them? Do they act like they're even worried about it? Nah.

Read again.

Bang on! Though majority of the world sees the USA as the leader of the free world - Trump's been very vocal about whose primary interest he's fighting for!

Now, just because I pointed out to you the difference, it doesn't necessarily mean I want to waste time discussing your following opinion - which is based on ignorance of the Scriptures - very stale that it is, have been rebutted/explained so many times in various forums. Your few posts about the subject says so much about how much you know/understand about the Scriptures. I'll pass. I don't care what you think about God. Think whatever you want.

Oh....don't let that fool you. Taxes end up biting everyone! Who do you think will end up shouldering the carbon taxes and the higher taxes for corporations???? The CONSUMERS! http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/carbon-price-consumer-impact-1.3789224

Excuse me, but you're the one who isn't making any sense. You're arguing for nothing. I don't care if you think having used the holocaust is a bullshit reason. That's not the point. The State of Israel has finally existed because of the holocaust! Imagine.....they've been planning to have a nation for 60 years. They've been buying up land since the time of the ottoman......and yet, did we see any state of Israel? What was decades of merely planning, got fast-tracked because of the Holocaust! Anyway, you admit it's a fact they did use the Holocaust. Therefore, you're saying the Holocaust was the reason. It's a fact! That's, the point. You're now saying the same thing that I'm saying. Case closed.

GOD! He had His own reason for it. Yes, it was God who's made that decision - not a woman. Not a man. GOD! That's the big difference.

Not making excuses. Just corrected you about 1984 - just stating facts. 1984 is about socialism.

Let he without his own Pinocchio cast the first stone.

The yarn continues..... http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/asylum-seekers-border-crossing-1.4258928 ..... https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/border-agents-diverted-to-help-with-asylum-influx-union-fears-travel-delays-1.3934298

Here's one of the biggest yarn: ....and when the poor folks took him up on his generous offer (risking life and limb on a long journey to Canada).......he says what kinda translates to: OOOPS. That's not really true. Let me re-phrase that. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/justin-trudeau-forced-to-backtrack-on-open-invitation-to-refugees http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/myth-refugees-canada-trudeau-1.4257696 I can understand that he's trying to copycat Trump with his tweeting - but his untruthful tweet is costing us!

The liberal-minded are the ones that's described to a tee by Orwell! The socialist-leaning ones, and the ignorant ones who doesn't have a clue they're socialist-leaning! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four Its roots is socialism - like the climate of mentality we've got now! We're getting there! The defeat of Hillary Clinton (Democrats) by Trump, had forestalled what would've been an accelerated machination towards 1984! Canada should be thankful for that, since having a Trudeau (a doppelganger of Obama)......we would've seen the same acceleration in Canada! You could say that Trump had put a brake on that! That's part of the larger picture why some Christians had put their support on Trump, btw. https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/02/george-orwell-1984-trump-not/

Tell that to Trudeau.....who lavished praises on Castro and the government of China!

Hey......we're attracting those same ones! In fact, their rejects are attracted to Canada!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_good I'm simply using NK as an example of the common ground being shared by both The Dems and Reps. They both want a NK that doesn't pose a nuclear threat - a common good - but they differ in how they go about it. Whether the summit becomes a reality (and a success) or bust - it doesn't affect the fact that both Dems and Reps share a common ground with that vision of a non-threat NK.

The last time I heard, Kim is asking for 10 restaurant workers in South Korea to be sent back to NK. Don't know the details about those workers. Trump and a lot of people have been skeptical about Kim Jong even when NK started talking with SK. But, one can't shut down a possibility for talks just simply because of skepticism. What more when Kim showed "good faith" by releasing prisoners?

Whatever. And....disregard my suggestion about creating a thread. Bye. Looks like you're another waste of time.

That can be discussed in Religion. Create a thread for it.

They're not comparable. Jews legally purchased those lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine