betsy

So, what do you think happens to children seized by the CAS? No. Not because they're from El Salvador. It's because they're ILLEGAL aliens. They simply just happens to be from El Salvador. I'm telling you folks, anti-Trumps are imbedded with this bunch. It's a ploy to make demonize Trump. It's a well- orchestrated effort.

Their mothers are illegally in the country. That's the part of the risk they took when they opted to enter a country illegally. They should be thankful that at least, in the USA, their children are cared for. So let's not be so ridiculously melodramatic over nothing. The optics simply looks bad - but that's just the optics.

What's new with the Pope? The Pope's had always been against Trump policy. Remember the wall? During the presidential campaign? The Pope rebuked Trump, and said he's not a Christian. What's the result? More Catholics voted for Trump. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/ft_16-11-09_relig_exitpoll_religrace/ Most Catholics aren't dumb, you know. Btw, Italy's ended up with a populist government - inspired by Trump. They turned away refugees, right? What say the Pope to that? That's right up on his own backyard, right? Now's his chance! The Pope ought to give the perfect example by taking in the refugees in the Vatican. Let's get environmental too.....you don't need that huge palace, especially if you're a servant of God. Ooooooh. Look what I found: Proverbs 26:17 Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a passing dog by the ears. 1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler. Luke 12:13-14 Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canada-detention-children-united-states-1.4709632

Lol. They ought to take bus-loads of these kids and drop them off at the houses of all those complaining about their condition. Here, accomodate them. First stop: Laura Bush's ranch.

In Canada......we'll probably be sued for millions. Of course, we'll pay. We're known, and famous for that.

Taking children from their mothers. Abomination Just like the way the government rips children from parents, huh? "For the good of the children," of course. Having been a foster parent, I've heard children crying for parents (some of whom will never see again, because they're being set up for adoption). It is heartbreaking to see these children on their last visits with their parents. Anyway, some kids cry for their fathers! But of course, the real story behind what's happening in the USA border right now..........there's more to it, isn't it? A real refugee will be thankful to see their children having a safe place to sleep, and being fed balanced meals on a regular basis.....after all, they've already got past the most dangerous part of their journey. It's so easy for those exploiting the misery of refugees who risked life and limb to flee from whatever it is that made them flee from their homeland. Obviously, they felt the risk is well worth it. So.....I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about children being kept in what they say are "cages." Surely, you wouldn't want them running off, unsupervised? Lol. Before you know it, the USA will be sued for missing children! Or, for children who were abducted by pedophiles! Once they set foot at your doorstep - they become your problem, whether you like it or not. Now you see why a wall is needed.

Tell that to Obama.

Murdering unborn children, is not comparable with the separation of children from parents that's in the news these days. Not by a long shot. Anyone trying to make comparison ought to have a head shake....to think clearly. Lol. Like as if we don't separate children from their parents - "for the good of the child" we like to say. What's new? Go ask CAS how many children they've confiscated and forcibly removed from parents this month. Someone has to make decisions - and I bet you're all for that? How many of these children have been removed........... from the frying pan into the fire? We end up reading about them, right? Anyway, that's for another thread. It'll make a very interesting discussion - go start it, MH.

Nah. It's really simple. It's just that, again, the so-called research or study groups are driven by agenda! The new liberal clime we've got tries to make things complicated. Like this thing called "Hebephilia," as an example. It still boils down to pedophilia. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201205/dsm-5-rejects-hebephilia-except-the-fine-print Incidentally, in Canada....it was the gay group who had lobbied to lower the age of consent for anal sex from 18 to 16! Why do you need to lower that age, when it's the same for everyone regardless of sexual orientation? http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/faq-age-of-consent-law-canada-1.3851507

I know life isn't like that. There is normal sex .......and then, there are those that are not. Like having sex with an animal - to you that must be just another kinda normal sex, huh? So....you think it's normal to boink sheep? That's okay? Maybe you'll say....."as long as they give their consent!" Oh my dears.....I'm still laughing......I love you both (and, do not mistake that as an invitation to a threesome).

Okay....okay....okay....Goddess and Dia, I'll have compassion on you two since the very mention of "pedophilia" seem to drive you both into a foamy frenzy...... .......... I'll change the comparison. What about people who are attracted to animals? That's another sexual orientation, isn't it?

Thank you. As on cue - you provide the evidence to support why I question your common sense. You're carrying on like as if what you "suspect" is undeniable fact! How do you know he cheats on his wife.....and he lusts after his own daughter? You playing with a crystal ball now? Hahahahaha - and how convolutedly twisted is that? You're indignant about sex outside of marriage - and, what you think is incestuous desires .........and yet, you support the "anything goes" sexuality! Could it be that being straight is actually what some people think is............ perverted? that kinda mentality sounds almost like another exotic perversion.......

You've given me reasons to question your common sense, Diahlamah......when you repeatedly criticise something you hardly know about. You've demonstrated so in various threads. Compassion.....yeah, you do have....unfortunately, it seems to be misplaced. Too bad. You encourage and support the murder of the most vulnerable and most innocent of human beings - the unborn.

Now I know that you've got a double standard! Heck.....you even feel indignant when someone points out that double standard when it comes to pedophiles! Why shouldn't I use another sexual orientation in comparison? Lol. The gay movement even marched with pedophiles in the 70's! They didn't mind it then. But now.....you can't even mention pedophilia in a gay thread without someone going for your throat!

Read again: They define it as a SEXUAL ORIENTATION! Isn't that what I was asking you.....if it's a sexual orientation?

I have been doing that all along, Diahlamah. It's you whom I think gets negligent by parroting the ignorance of anti-Christianity or atheist in our old skirmishes - which means, you have not checked their credibility. So, let that be a lesson to you.

Well? They define it as a SEXUAL ORIENTATION! Isn't that what I was asking you.....if it's a sexual orientation?

Excuse me? You have to determine if the sources has any credibility.

You know, not everything is legit on a google page, don't you? You have to determine if the sources has any credibility.

Well....here it is, Goddess. No wonder you won't give the link.... The APA adjusted their classification. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/american-psychiatric-association-pedophilia/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5

Cite the link to your source - the APA, please. I want to read it for myself.

What proof did you give? Like the guy who said he can't become heterosexual? That's not proof - I have also tons of proofs to negate that. I know personally 3 gays who are now married. I have re-connected with one of them, and he's a grandfather.....and there's no trace of his gay-ness from what I read and see! I never brought back the past - didn't ask him about it. I'm talking about scientific proof.

No, your post didn't address the specific question that I asked you. I gave a source that says it is. It is irrelevant if people want to have lasting relationships or not. I'm asking you if you think people who are sexually attracted to children, are born that way. Do you think pedophilia is a sexual orientation? I gave a source that says it is.

I tend to agree with you! But......if society is recognizing homosexuality as a sexual orientation just because gay people claim it is......why shouldn't pedophiles who also make the same claim, be given the same right? There is no scientific proof that people are born gay! Someone no doubt will point to the so-called "gay genes." Why are we suddenly looking for gay genes? And voila.....eureka, someone claimed to have found it! Anyway, before we get all excited about these genes..... https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/51120/title/Putative-Gay-Genes-Identified--Questioned/