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How can you debunk hemp ???? What other materials can you debunk ? What does something look like after its been debunked ?

Scientist On Climate Change -says man cannot affect climate, its mostly the sun according to past data.

Remarks like this show that I am winning so I take them with a certain amount of "pride" for lack of a better word.

This would be the model that supposedy validates the official hypothesis.

By arificial tests I assume you mean "not based on evidence". Interesting. The complete and unlikely destruction of these three buildings is not worth investigating. Hmmm.

Pedophile / Jeuvenile prisons This article contains links to letters that circled around the state legal authorities inTexas regarding the state run brothels inside the juvenile detentions centers. Essentially the cases will not be prosecuted unless it can be shown that physical pain was part of the child rape process. They are photo copied versions of the actual letters. This makes the US government position on state run juvenile delinquency facilities being used as kiddie brothels quite clear. As long as the kids don't get physically hurt no one will bother looking into it or looking at the evidence.

This is a straw man statement. Where is the evidence that supports these temperatures ? They are calibrating the simulations to meet the requirements of the stated hypothesis. This is why I think the actual collapse was not modeled because you could not make the computer simulation end up collapseing the whole building the way it did. When you consider the detailed modelling in the pre collapse scenario and then see that they have entirely skipped simulating the critical event you must wonder why.

Where did Hoffman do this ?

ScottsA: You should learn more about hemp. Its almost like the 8th wonder of the world. We can make better paper, clothes, everything from it. It really is amazing that many common things are not made of hemp. Hemp seed has many health benefits. None of this has anything to do with dope. Hemp cloths are more comfortable and last longer than cotton. They also suit a lower temperature climate better. Hemp pants are a lot warmer in the winter.

The idea of going to prison brings rape to mind with me, it should even to little kids when they think of jeuvenile hall. I wonder if the Iranians turn their juvenile delinquent prisons into kiddie brothels the way the US does. (Gonzales is implicated in this cover up) I did a thread on this about Gonzales.

That is a blatent lie. You also saying that you have read the NIST report is also a lie. I too have read bits of the NIST report, like you. Notice the difference in how that gets stated between the two of us. That difference is a character difference. It means all the t's haven't yet been crossed and the i's haven't been dotted not that the hypothesis is goiing to change. The hypothesis keeps changing every time some conspiracy theorist comes along and says the NIST version of events is impossible and points it out so that anyone can understand, as Hoffman does in the Guns & Butter archives. I guess the evidence was destroyed so we will never know. All those bending core columns in this high temperature region that comprises the evidence NIST depends on to validate its report are gone or destroyed. I wonder where they get the information for these high temperatures. Do you think they just use the knowledge that the building collapsed and conclude from that that the temperatures were this high ?

Here is a post showiung the temperature mappings based on computer modelling of the temperatures in the NIST report, but the temperatures in this map are so much higher than the evidence described above show. I find this confusing, don't you Riverwind ? temp map How come the temps were so high in this sim ?

More like the area between them with the zipper.

Could not be because the NAU is fact. It must be you with a brain allergy of some sort. All that talk about the NAU just being a conspiacy theory more or less stopped. Most people know now that its real - like the existence of the CFR was once a conspiracy theory but people have seen the pictures of the "Council On Foreign Relations" in NY. There are many books about it.

Whats the deal with private banks lending money to governments then, when the Bank Of Canada could lend our money to us. Isn't that the government letting the private banks put Canadians in servitude ?

What about all the contradictions like them saying the temps were low like the quote below: Then the parts where it was saying the temperatures were 1000 deg C like where you said earlier on this thread - don't you find all these contradictions confusing ?

Normally when you do a report and you say "this is what happened" you mean "this is what happened" - if its a working hypothesis it is qualified as such. The fact that NIST keeps changing their stories all the time shows that its just propoganda. The fact that they have Philip Zelikow (a maintainer of public myths) instead of real qualified forensic examiners involved shows that its just propoganda. This means that it is nefarious and you making the above statement shows you may not even believe this crap and that you are probably a paid off gate keeper. The fact that the report doesn't even explain the total collapse of all the buildings - or even one of them and you keep infering that it does shows that you are a fool.

These guys help show what an idiot is required not to see these attacks are inside jobs. It seems like they are on our side.

There is no way you read that report. And even if you did there is no way you could understand it. You can't even do a free body force diagram right. That report stands 2 feet high. You have to go to others that have read it. I know what I am talking about, and I know you do not from these quotes: Riverwind scientific quotes:

Few people actually read that report. It stacks two feet high (but still doen't explain the total collapses of the buildings) I bought the shortened version, what conspiracy theorists call the "Omission Commission" but it got to so ridiculous that I stopped reading it. It seems to me like its an obvious piece of propoganda - especially when it talks about tracking Usama because we know the French have had Usama in their sights and were told to let him go, there have been other cases like this from Somolia I think. I have a hard time believing that people can read that crap and actually believe it - I think the report supplied so that it made it look like NIST was explaining things and they expected few people to actually read it. Hoffman talks about the NIST report and how its a 20 million dollar whitewash but his explaination probably doesn't apply to the latest version since it keeps changing all the time. Hoffman said he spent two yeras studying that report. He is probably one of a handful of people that actually read it. It wasn't designed to actually be read according to Hoffman. Hoffmans discussion is a free MP3 download Hoffman / KPFA / Guns & Butter (warning: This is a conspiracy theory) Jim Hoffman has what conspiracy theorists consider to be the best site on 911: www.911research.net or google "Hoffman 911 research".

"Observations of paint cracking due to thermal expansion. Of the more than 170 areas examined on 16 perimeter column panels, only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250 ºC: east face, floor 98, inner web; east face, floor 92, inner web; and north face, floor 98, floor truss connector. Only two core column specimens had sufficient paint remaining to make such an analysis, and their temperatures did not reach 250 ºC. ... Using metallographic analysis, NIST determined that there was no evidence that any of the samples had reached temperatures above 600 ºC." NIST (p 90/140), obtained from 911Research This means that only a few support columns had their strength reduced to half.

which one of you guys posed for this picture: link ?

simple & dumb

Judges just use the law as a guideline. President rules, same as in the USA. The entire legal system is corrupt in Canada. "Truth is no legal defence" is a quote from this trial.