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Nice strawman and spin to attempted personal insult.

It isn't too far off the mark, he wants us to teach kids how to give good blow jobs and how to have anal sex in K-12....

That isn't what happened though. We are talking about his rich friend taking him on vacation... you know, stuff like jets, yachts, and resorts are just expenses for the trip. What does that do to "bribe" him to do anything? Answer: Nothing. You can't support your case, all you can do is ask speculative rhetorical questions.

Totally. We need young kid beastiality literature because who is going to teach these kids how to have sex with a sheep or camel the right way? How to maintain that relationship. Probably need more literature on Polygamy, incest, you name it, the whole full spectrum. Not sure there will be much time for reading or writing, though, with all these sexual fetish courses these kids will need.

Well, there is a precedent for religious freedom as well. The point here isn't that we have a precedent for forcing people to do stuff. The point was that the LGBTQ mafia was trying to destroy this guy to get him to comply and not just destroy him, continually harass him. That the notion of so-called tolerance here is anything but when it comes to compelling others like this.

Well, we already have a million special laws on the books to protect abortion clinics from protests. If someone blocks the entrance, they face special federal charges with years in federal prison. Notice, you don't see Conservative protestors blocking traffic like this and taking over campus like this every other year for something... gee, I wonder why. We don't have to even consider having a double standard because we already respect the rule of law more to begin with.

Not suddenly at all. Israel has been consistently working to improve the flow of aid, the trend has been going up for months now. The limiting factor has consistently been what the UN is able to pick up and deliver. Almost every other day Israel COGAT posts pictures of how much aid is piled up waiting for the UN to pick up and deliver.

Yes, I can read. This was you making a baseless assertion about it being their "central pillar" and no further explanation for how this thread is proof of state violence support. Remember, I already pointed out the stupidity of what you were doing here: "Enforcing laws != "State Violence" otherwise the term is near meaningless as the enforcement of laws always requires violence to those who resist." Oh, Oops indeed: ""At this time we anticipate having to send the case back to the CHP for continued investigation," Jenkins explained." Golden Gate Bridge protesters released after SF DA Jenkins asks for more conspiracy evidence https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/golden-gate-bridge-protesters-released-after-sf-da-jenkins-asks-for-more-conspiracy-evidence/ I am not holding my breath waiting to see if she follows through or not.... likely wait for this die off in the media cycle or succumb to the pressure of the radical left who is demanding she doesn't press charges. Oh, speaking of the left-wing and supporting my position, here you go: "Outside the jail, supporters showed up to call for the protesters release prior to them being set free. It was a second day of protest, this time demanding the 26 people arrested on the bridge be released with no charges." I was not equating them, I was comparing who might be doing the same thing. Speaking of asking if you can read, here you go again: "Yet, we all know if it were the Proud Boys camping out in the middle of a campus shutting things down and harassing black students, folks on the left would be screaming bloody murder, mobilizing the National Guard to beat them with rifles and drag them all away coming up with every charge in the book they could throw at them and then some. (See January 6th, See Targetting of Pro-Life demonstrators)" I clearly was pointing out the comparison to if the Proud Boys were doing the same thing as these Pro-Hamas protestors were doing...

And yet you did not offer anything substantive to support your original worthless assertion either... But, since you asked, lets take a look at these campus protests in support of Hamas or otherwise blocking the roads. You find that in the more liberal Democrat run places they are hesitant to arrest and even when they do, likely not to even bother with pressing charges after. (See San Francisco Bridge) Yet, we all know if it were the Proud Boys camping out in the middle of a campus shutting things down and harassing black students, folks on the left would be screaming bloody murder, mobilizing the National Guard to beat them with rifles and drag them all away coming up with every charge in the book they could throw at them and then some. (See January 6th, See Targetting of Pro-Life demonstrators)

My response was no more empty than what I was responding to...

You want to rehash where Bush was going on 9/11? Maybe take 5 minutes to do some googling next time. Bush was returning to the Capitol at first, but the attacks were still underway. Flight 93 still went down after they left Florida. Intelligence said there were still threats in WDC, so they went to LA to quickly address the nation and then to Nebraska because USSTRATCOM was based there and served as an ideal place to continue to operate from seeing as we still had no idea how many more attacks were to come or underway. He was there for maybe a few hours and then returned to WDC by late afternoon to address the nation that evening from the White House. He was in the Whitehouse that evening to address the nation. Go invent something else to pretend to be outraged over.

I travel to Canada for work about once a year, but I am not familiar with the day to day politics there, but I do find it amazing how the Police can go out of their way to arrest that Rebel News Journalist every other week for merely existing... and it sure seemed like they used the heavy hand of the law during COVID to destroy peoples lives that did not comply or the Truckers protest... but they can't find that these protestors are breaking any laws?

No, you have failed to use scripture and I have pointed out the flaws in your position with scripture. I brought up the parable of the talents, remember? I don't have to take anything as you say it... that is YOUR opinion now.

It was just too easy to point out its flaws... but for some reason I can't quite get Gaétan to admit that.

Well, yeah, you were and are. Israel is not removing Palestinians en masse through terror or violence. Palestinians are and have been living in the West Bank and Gaza for decades now and continue to grow. So again... maybe in 10,000 years at this pace there will be some ethnic cleansing, if a million other things all align on the way... Your position is hyperbole at best, an gross exaggeration, over settlement policy, much of which started with security because again, they lost a war and Israel is not all to keen on having their borders so close again. I guess the Palestinians should have taken any number of the previous deals out there instead of insisting on little more than the destruction of Israel or a return to 1948 borders that will never happen.

Enforcing laws != "State Violence" otherwise the term is near meaningless as the enforcement of laws always requires violence to those who resist. It is the folks on the left who want to selectively punish and target those they disagree with here, and ignore the folks they support when they do it. Perhaps your position will have more merit in another thread where folks on the right are arguing against enforcing the laws like this on folks on the right.

At this point, I have to think you are just trying to be difficult to be difficult. Yes, we were talking about not pushing our values onto the students in regards to sex. It is aligned with political views there, but that is not what you said, as if I said no business getting in their business at all. I want teachers to focus on kids reading, science, the arts, math, history... you want to have them teaching kids how to have anal sex. You and I are worlds apart here and it is not even close how far out you are. Except, that is exactly what you are doing here. You are demanding that "tolerance" means I must play along with your fantasies. You are trying to force that onto me. That is not what Pro-Life means, you are conflating desired outcomes with what it means. Regardless, the point here was simply that you offer no respect or tolerance that you demand from others. Yes, how males and females behave has been a social construct to some degree, influence by biology and psychology as well. But it is how males and females behave. This is the game folks like you are trying to play and have it both ways now, trying to argue gender and sex are different so a man can pretend to be a woman... but the point is that he isn't a woman, yet you also want him to be treated as such not just in partaking in the acknowledgement of the fantasy, no, but we much allow the man to use women's facilities and beat them up in physical competition too! No, this is a ruse on your part, and not a very well done one. Are you demanding that I pretend that a toupee literally means they do in fact have hair? No, I do not nor would I go out of my way to denounce anyone, but you and others in the LGBTQ movement certainly are demanding that from the rest of us, that we must play along or we will be branded as intolerant! Hateful! How dare we! Let me know when you figure out this basic courtesy thing for yourself. Where did I take issue with pride in one's self? Well, Autism is a disability. I am not being asked to pretend someone with Autism doesn't in fact have Autism. Just like the Pro-Life flag, there is zero ham in that message of loving both the mother and the unborn child. But you want to make it into something ugly for the sake of politics. Yes. Clearly you missed out on the whole Masterpiece Cakeshop guy, who the LGBTQ mafia set out to destroy his life, trying to force him to make them a cake with a dildo among other things... that is just one pretty big example. Nope, folks on the left and in the LGBTQ movement couldn't tolerate or respect his beliefs, they had to force compliance and use the power of government to try to do it too. So, tell us, did you support using the force of government to make him use his artistic abilities to design a specially themed wedding cake for a gay wedding? Lets see how tolerant you are.

Now, you are being obtuse. School Choice is clearly a term used to describe choice in publicly funded education opportunities, like vouchers, tax credits, or things like education savings accounts... But let's play. If that is your take on choice, don't expect people who choose something else to have to continue to pay for public schools either. Fair? Or... we just stop funding public education all together, let people choose to do as they please? If you are opposed to paying for public education, lets take you at your word, we won't fund it at all. I see you are a believer in the magic birth canal. You said: "It's not some wonderfully diverse cross section of American life. " My response was to point out that those who identify with being Pro-Life are, in fact, a wonderfully diverse cross-section of American life.

Yes, we live in a world of money and there is no scriptural foundation for a doctrine against its use as you are trying to argue. Where am I taking it by imagination? They are parables. They are not literal events, they are stories told to convey a point and message. I am focused on that message here. So, lets review: You tried to argue for a Gift economy... you couldn't, you failed repeatedly to explain yourself or answer basic questions. Now you pivot to wanting a society with money, only it should be one where everyone is paid the same and are using scripture wrongly to do so and ignoring the rest. So, what exactly is your argument now? What is it you want?

Oh, I see. So, if you are "Pro-Choice" then you must also support choice in all things... like school choice? Or maybe, the terminology is in regard to abortion and the status of the unborn child being a human life with a right to life. Did you already forget your big speech about kindness and tolerance and respect? You want everyone else to play along with a persons fantasy role play trying to be something they are not... but you can't even do the same here yourself. No, it is not even a matter of just not being exclusive. We are talking about significant spreads. About 50/50 Men women... etc...

This is a parable. I’m taking it as it was meant. Even taking it literally as you insist, all it does is completely disagree with everything you have previously argued. These people were paid a wage. That isn’t a gift economy at all. So now you are arguing for some kind of Christian theocracy where everyone’s wages are the same. And if you want to argue Christianity you are still woefully wrong about money, as there is no definitive position against money and in fact, we have the parable of the talents which flies in the face of what you are trying to argue.

You just love to change up the terminology like this, to build these little strawman responses like this one. I never said we should both stay out of teachers business. Public schools exist to teach a curriculum that is controlled by the public. Of course it is our business what is happening there, we are paying for it and we are hiring those teachers. No, what I very specifically said was that I oppose teachers pushing their politics onto kids, and to broaden that out some, generally schools as a whole should avoid steering into choosing sides or pushing particular political view points. LOL, for real? You can't muster up any courtesy here to refer to Pro-Life as Pro-Life and have to bring your bigoted snide remarks about religion into discussions routinely. You don't get to preach kindness and tolerance like you are on the high ground here. You are not, nor are the views you push. It has nothing to do with courtesy, it has everything to do with being honest and not playing a role in some kind of fantastical delusion. A biological male can't be a woman. Has nothing to do with what they want. I am stating objective facts here. You have no desire to respect truth here and you are the one demanding I and others partake in these fantasies. That is not tolerance, that is you and the Pride movement and the Pride flag pushing this onto others and demanding they succumb to your political ideology, then you have the gall to pretend like you are doing all this under a banner of how tolerant you are. Yessssssssssssssssssss. For all the same reasons you sit there typing away about how obvious it is to you that the Pro-Life flag is hostile as you claim... that is exactly the same sentiment others have towards the Pride flag. Which again, is exactly my point. Then you are going to pretend like there are not thug LGBTQ mafia folks out there pushing their rhetoric in hateful ways demanding compliance? LOL, look at you in this discussion, you can't even be at peace with my pointing out simple biological facts. Oh no. There are folks in the LGBTQ Pride movement who are just as hateful, full of spite, and full of intolerance shoving their views onto the world. We have come a long long way from gay people just trying to live a normal life. As before, if the message of loving the mother and the unborn child is a problem for you, the Pro-Life flag isn't the problem, you are. See, we can both play this silly game. So much for your acceptance and tolerance.

It is the Pro-Life movement, and my claim was not who was driving it but who identified as such. Gallop polls have consistently shown that the issue is spread across key demographics from race, sex, age, education, and even religious and non-religious. You care enough about your bigoted views on religious belief that you feel compelled to drag it up in several of our discussions now.

Actually, gifts are not bribes. Bribery has a very specific, nefarious meaning. Hanging out with your rich friend occasionally and having him pay the way is not a bribe.

So, you can't answer the questions and resort to random scripture instead. Is your argument that you want to impose a Christian theocracy on everyone now? I do not understand why you are quoting scripture. Never mind, the scripture you quoted has nothing to do with not having value to your labor. The point of this scripture here was that you should not be envious of what others get paid, or to the larger point, that God's gift of salvation is freely given to all regardless of when they seek it. That his followers may come young or old before they die. What does that have to do with a gift economy?