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  1. Clearly, It did not speak for itself. I have about a dozen proposals I would like to see to improve things. You claiming I have no desire is just you making crap up.
  2. No, Trump did not incite the attack. The dozen or so worst offenders had dubious intentions before Trump ever spoke... but you will claim his speech incited them? The simple fact is that you don't care about the facts. Trump said to be peaceful, the vast majority of folks were in fact peaceful. The vast majority of folks who even got caught up doing anything criminal that day were peaceful, they wandered around and left. But then, in the same breath you will sit here claiming he incited this violence, you will ignore Democrats "inciting" violence during the summer of violence around BLM protests. Give me a break.
  3. Talk about some mental gymnastics and being plain bad at math. Even if we accept your timeline starting at 12:53, that is still not even 2 hours before Trump sent out the tweet saying to be peaceful. You don't just get to pretend like that doesn't count, when you were trying to claim he did nothing for 3 hours. Even then, the 12:53 time is dubious at best, because he was not even done speaking until it was just after 1:00. The 12:53 time is when the first small group of folks basically walked over some cheap temporary fencing... At that time no one knew what was going on or how serious anything would turn out being. Trump couldn't know, he was still on stage talking for crying out loud. But yeah, sure, throw that into your timeline where you claim he was sitting around doing nothing. Seriously, at this point, you are just being straight-up dishonest. It is pathetic.
  4. It helps if you actually read the Constitution.
  5. How are you persuading Russia to do anything? Again, you are not even willing to help Ukraine now... but you want to help them in the future? That makes no sense. Why would Putin believe that if we were unwilling to help Ukraine now, we would later? Your position makes no sense. No, it has not. NATO/US backed Ukraine before the invasion and committed to their defense as well as sanctions. We have continued to support them and the initial Russian invasion push was largely pushed back. Ukraine can continue to make gains and make Russia suffer. YOU are the one who is pushing weakness. YOU are the one who is making this two faced argument now, not wanting to support Ukraine while then criticizing Ukraine for not being strong enough or having enough of our support. Oh, I criticize the timing and decision making on our support, but that is a different discussion and your criticism is two faced. You don't want to fix it and make it better, you want to make it worse. And yet you presume Russia will go on forever with no real plan beyond that. Of course there is still saving face. Ukraine is still in the fight. Nothing is over yet. YOU are the one advocating for them to give up. You won't support them now, what sense does it make that you will then say you will support them in the future? The war is happening now, they need the support now. You were the one who brought it up. You tell me.
  6. No, you cheering on the "34" is a joke. And I bet you have a lot to say about the laws of the land when it suits you.
  7. Report me. There is not any Palestinian holocaust.
  8. Oh, I see now. I disagree with your nonsense and present well-thought-out and articulate rebuttals to it, so I must be in a MAGA info-bubble! It seems you are more in your own left-wing bubble here than I am. The fact that this day was awful or will be one of historical proportions was not the debate.
  9. He did not start it. He attended a peaceful rally and left. The riot was still well underway after he sent that video. You guys pretend like Trump had some control over a rioting mob, when he did not. They were a rioting mob. People in that situation do not usually listen to much reason... or they would not be in a rioting mob to begin with.
  10. Do you not get this? He owed someone X dollars and paid them in 34 installments. And you are here cheering that on as if the 34 means something special. It is a joke.
  11. No, an analogy is comparing different things to make a point. The entire purpose is that they are not the same thing... No, you are not mostly in control of the outcome at all when it comes to other people crashing into you. I don't wear a seatbelt because I don't trust myself. I wear a seatbelt because I don't trust all the other people driving around me. Again... there were zero shootings in Uvdale or Sandyhook before they each had a mass shooting. I don't have to explain why there were zero school shootings before... the point of an SRO is to mitigate the risk of any that may happen in the future.
  12. Oh, so when Hitler was killing Jews, that was all fine and dandy... because there was no explicit laws stopping him. Slavery was cool too, all perfectly legal! This is not a real argument, it is just you saying it is cool to kill these babies because it is legal. So, you fully abide by the law in the states where there are far more restrictions then, making it illegal? Killing babies is not a mere "healthcare decision"
  13. Sigh... it is simply amazing how some of you just absolutely refuse to educate yourselves. 1:34 pm is about when police were beginning to be overwhelmed. 2:11 pm is about when Capitol was breached 2:38 pm Trump tweets to be peaceful That is not 3 hours, that is not 2 hours and 50 minutes, that is not 2 hours and 45 minutes. So, telling you the facts of what he said, is a flimsy defense? Now you are shifting the goalposts again to saying this should have been a foreseeable consequence. OK, so why didn't Pelosi and the Capital police take it more seriously? They heard all this. They knew the rhetoric being spewed. Yet, they didn't do anything more to ensure the Capitol was secured that day. So much for this all being so foreseeable. Except... there was no "beat some sense" comments nor any *wink* nor any "nose-tap* These are all your fanciful creations. Again, do you blame Democrats for all the violence from the BLM riots like this?
  14. No, its not. I wear my seatbelt when I drive not because I predict I will be in a crash, but because I understand there is a risk and I am mitigating it. If I somehow knew/was predicting a crash, I would not even bother driving or change my route or do something else. Same thing with school shootings and other school violence. Placing an SRO in a school is there to help mitigate that risk, not because I am predicting violence.
  15. Where did I say that? I said no such thing.
  16. He sent several public messages calling for peace. He was not in charge of security that day, the local police, the Capitol police... he had no magic "stop" button like he just sat there not pushing it. If only the Democrats cared more about security than their hate of men in uniform, there could have been more National guard that day. As a matter of fact, he posted that message at the direction of Trump.
  17. Nope, it is your fantasy that pretends "stop" somehow was a call for violence. Something the vast majority of folks clearly missed out on. More Democrats believe that shit than any Trump supporters did by a magnitude of a million to one. Appears you guys got the secret decoder rings by mistake. LOL, he is a one time convicted felon, it was 34 counts of doing the same thing... but you keep acting like that 34 is some kind of meaningful number LOL And I imagine sometime later this year or next when it is overturned on appeal, you will be here celebrating the rule of law still.
  18. To kill a human baby? So, like I said, you are just fine with 1 Million dead babies a year for the mere convenience of it.
  19. As opposed to folks on the left who reduce the unborn human babies to nothing more than clumps of cells and don't care about 1,000,000 killed every year, mainly for the mere convenience of it?
  20. There were no shootings in Sandy Hook before there was one. There were no shootings in Uvdale before there was one... Again, your point is absurd.
  21. Again, are you lying or just ignorant about the timeline that day? He did not just watch for 3 hours. And nothing you said here shows Trump intended for this to happen. That is your twisted speculation. Magically cover him? I am just telling you what he explicitly said. You choose to ignore it because it is inconvenient to your bogus argument. Well, without Columbus sailing the Oceans like he did... none of this may have ever happened. So what? If Democrats had not lied with their inflammatory bullshitting the summer of BLM violence would not have happened. No, I do not need to answer your question, because it is based on ignorance or a lie on your part. He did not just sit there for 3 hours. I already told you this. So, why are you ignoring that?
  22. Above the law? Do you attack the legitimacy of the Federal courts now?!
  23. Wow, you think Trump had a live feed inside the Capitol that day, and could hear them saying "Hang Mike Pence" when he tweeted that? He tweeted this about 15 minutes later: "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!" Maybe... just maybe you are dishonestly framing things that happened that day. Hmmmm. Just maybe.
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