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Report me. There is not any Palestinian holocaust.

Oh, I see now. I disagree with your nonsense and present well-thought-out and articulate rebuttals to it, so I must be in a MAGA info-bubble! It seems you are more in your own left-wing bubble here than I am. The fact that this day was awful or will be one of historical proportions was not the debate.

And you are cowardly ignoring my comments and question.

He did not start it. He attended a peaceful rally and left. The riot was still well underway after he sent that video. You guys pretend like Trump had some control over a rioting mob, when he did not. They were a rioting mob. People in that situation do not usually listen to much reason... or they would not be in a rioting mob to begin with.

Do you not get this? He owed someone X dollars and paid them in 34 installments. And you are here cheering that on as if the 34 means something special. It is a joke.

No, an analogy is comparing different things to make a point. The entire purpose is that they are not the same thing... No, you are not mostly in control of the outcome at all when it comes to other people crashing into you. I don't wear a seatbelt because I don't trust myself. I wear a seatbelt because I don't trust all the other people driving around me. Again... there were zero shootings in Uvdale or Sandyhook before they each had a mass shooting. I don't have to explain why there were zero school shootings before... the point of an SRO is to mitigate the risk of any that may happen in the future.

Oh, so when Hitler was killing Jews, that was all fine and dandy... because there was no explicit laws stopping him. Slavery was cool too, all perfectly legal! This is not a real argument, it is just you saying it is cool to kill these babies because it is legal. So, you fully abide by the law in the states where there are far more restrictions then, making it illegal? Killing babies is not a mere "healthcare decision"

Sigh... it is simply amazing how some of you just absolutely refuse to educate yourselves. 1:34 pm is about when police were beginning to be overwhelmed. 2:11 pm is about when Capitol was breached 2:38 pm Trump tweets to be peaceful That is not 3 hours, that is not 2 hours and 50 minutes, that is not 2 hours and 45 minutes. So, telling you the facts of what he said, is a flimsy defense? Now you are shifting the goalposts again to saying this should have been a foreseeable consequence. OK, so why didn't Pelosi and the Capital police take it more seriously? They heard all this. They knew the rhetoric being spewed. Yet, they didn't do anything more to ensure the Capitol was secured that day. So much for this all being so foreseeable. Except... there was no "beat some sense" comments nor any *wink* nor any "nose-tap* These are all your fanciful creations. Again, do you blame Democrats for all the violence from the BLM riots like this?

No, its not. I wear my seatbelt when I drive not because I predict I will be in a crash, but because I understand there is a risk and I am mitigating it. If I somehow knew/was predicting a crash, I would not even bother driving or change my route or do something else. Same thing with school shootings and other school violence. Placing an SRO in a school is there to help mitigate that risk, not because I am predicting violence.

Where did I say that? I said no such thing.

He sent several public messages calling for peace. He was not in charge of security that day, the local police, the Capitol police... he had no magic "stop" button like he just sat there not pushing it. If only the Democrats cared more about security than their hate of men in uniform, there could have been more National guard that day. As a matter of fact, he posted that message at the direction of Trump.

Nope, it is your fantasy that pretends "stop" somehow was a call for violence. Something the vast majority of folks clearly missed out on. More Democrats believe that shit than any Trump supporters did by a magnitude of a million to one. Appears you guys got the secret decoder rings by mistake. LOL, he is a one time convicted felon, it was 34 counts of doing the same thing... but you keep acting like that 34 is some kind of meaningful number LOL And I imagine sometime later this year or next when it is overturned on appeal, you will be here celebrating the rule of law still.

To kill a human baby? So, like I said, you are just fine with 1 Million dead babies a year for the mere convenience of it.

As opposed to folks on the left who reduce the unborn human babies to nothing more than clumps of cells and don't care about 1,000,000 killed every year, mainly for the mere convenience of it?

Where is the corruption?

There were no shootings in Sandy Hook before there was one. There were no shootings in Uvdale before there was one... Again, your point is absurd.

Again, are you lying or just ignorant about the timeline that day? He did not just watch for 3 hours. And nothing you said here shows Trump intended for this to happen. That is your twisted speculation. Magically cover him? I am just telling you what he explicitly said. You choose to ignore it because it is inconvenient to your bogus argument. Well, without Columbus sailing the Oceans like he did... none of this may have ever happened. So what? If Democrats had not lied with their inflammatory bullshitting the summer of BLM violence would not have happened. No, I do not need to answer your question, because it is based on ignorance or a lie on your part. He did not just sit there for 3 hours. I already told you this. So, why are you ignoring that?

Above the law? Do you attack the legitimacy of the Federal courts now?!

Wow, you think Trump had a live feed inside the Capitol that day, and could hear them saying "Hang Mike Pence" when he tweeted that? He tweeted this about 15 minutes later: "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!" Maybe... just maybe you are dishonestly framing things that happened that day. Hmmmm. Just maybe.

No, they didn't. The vast majority showed up and left peacefully that day. As you guys love to say about all the BLM protests and violence, the vast majority were peaceful! I present factual things he actually said. It is you are the one imagining he meant something more. Clearly the vast majority of folks that day didn't get that hidden message. It is you who imagines Trump knowingly caused this. Trump had no power to let it go on or not, he was not in charge of security that day. If Trump had his way, there would have been vastly more National Guard on site to keep the peace. But Democrats didn't like that when he had them there for the BLM riots.

You mocked the notion that it "had nothing to do with him" which is not any argument at play in the post of mine you responded to. I am glad you acknowledge it was in fact a lie to claim he directed people to invade the Capitol. No, the people I responded to were being dishonest. Now, you are claiming this was what Trump intended. Where do you get that from, other than your imagination? Trump clearly told them to go march in peace. It was a peacefully rally and protest that was organized. There is ZERO evidence Trump was ever involved in anything in any way that was meant to make this a day of violence, which is why 99+% of the people who showed up had no plans to engage in violence. The vast majority of people showed up and left. The vast majority who marched to the Capitol, left peacefully. The vast majority of the folks at the Capitol who engaged in illegal activity still did so peacefully and left. It was only like a dozen right wing extremists who were found to have any plans for actual violence that day and they had nothing to do with any plan with Trump. Most who engaged in violence that day got caught up in a mindless mob, which I fully condemn. So, no, I am not being dishonest here at all. And if you want to talk about shameless lying and "incitement" lets hear your take on the summer of BLM violence and how much blame you lay at the feet of Democrats who did the same crap and pushed the same kind of lies to "incite" all of that violence. It makes a hell of a difference if he explicitly ordered violence that day when you (or someone else) are here claiming he did. No, he made no such implications, see my argument above. It is either dishonest on your part or ignorance, that you claim he did nothing for 3 hours. The timeline shows otherwise. He made several different public statements/tweets while it unfolded before 3 hours.

Same old stupid arguments from dumb politicians on the left. They act like an armed population can't even fight back against F-15's. It is just pure ignorance. For starters, armed populations can in fact fight back, because you can't win a war just by dropping bombs and those F-15's (and the American logistical Military machine) is based all over the country. Who is going to defend those air fields? Protect the fuel supply? Protect the parts delivery? Protect the food, water, and medical supplies all needed by all of the military bases spread out across the country? Yes, an armed population can in fact defeat those F-15's.

Was there anything in particular you wanted to share here, or were you just mindlessly posting random links?

So, naturally, if they respect power your big plan is to stop supporting Ukraine. So, naturally, if it is that you think they sense weakness, you want to project even more weakness. How do you presume to know how worried or not they are? NATO and the West have continued to show they are willing to pour the money, and military equipment needed, to help Ukraine defeat Russia. This has proven out as Russian advances were mostly pushed back after the initial invasion and they can't get much farther and have wasted massive amounts of manpower and their war machine in trying to do so. And so now... you want to bail on Ukraine. If you are so concerned about showing strength, you sure have a funny way of showing it now. That is your false presumption, that it will only be solved at a negotiating table, and right now what is it that Russia is offering that you want Ukraine to accept? Because all you are offering now is to stop supporting Ukraine. That is not going to help with any negotiations. That is going to give Russia an upper hand in destroying more of Ukraine if not outright conquering them. You don't even support helping Ukraine now... but you are willing to help them if Putin continues? Putin is trying to invade them now, right now, there is a war right now, and you are not willing to commit to any protections or deterrents. Nothing you are saying makes any sense. No, you want to abandon them and are here trying to argue like you know what is best for them, when you do not. We are two folks arguing on a forum, your positions are either good ones or bad ones, you are making factual statements or ignorant ones... my calling out your arguments for being what they are, mostly ignorant and supporting of Russia is just that. You threatening to somehow care less because of it... only shows how much more incredibly awful your position is. I am not the government, if you feel shamed, good. You are here putting forth these two faced arguments wanting to bail on Ukraine and give in to Putins aggression.

Go March in peace... Yeah, it's just amazing how you ignore the parts inconvenient to your dishonest narrative and twist obvious figures of speech.