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Hard to think of the one big lie in my life... but the most recent lie, one of the biggest told I can think of, was the WHO and other governments, including the US Government, and Dr Fauci, all telling us to not wear masks, that masks would not help us. At the start of the Pandemic, they had no idea how COVID was being spread, but they wanted to protect the mask supply and they knowingly lied. They outright lied to the world saying not to wear a mask, when that was when COVID was spreading and people wearing masks could have made a huge difference. I am a prepper of sorts and happen to keep N95 masks on hand all the time as a matter of routine, and I can tell you as soon as they said don't wear a mask, I knew they were full of crap and my family wore masks. We were wearing them before that too, but it just goes to show you that people in power, even the scientists and others, will get behind what they think is a noble lie, they are not all altruistic truth tellers. This was one of the most glaring examples of such wide-scale blatant dishonesty in my lifetime.

A lie is something that is told with an intent to deceive and something that is not true. Folks involved in religion BELIEVE what they do is true; they are not trying to deceive you. Nor is there any falsification of what they BELIEVE to show it was false. Speaking to Christianity, it is backed by The Bible, Archeology, and documented history to some degree. It doesn't "prove" the existence of Jesus or "prove" there is God, but to sit here saying it was a lie is just ignorant bigotry.

Then, again, back to my comment before: "Not sure this is an issue about women wanting to be drafted. They are free to volunteer if they want to. This is more about the political left wanting to push this onto all women. "

No, I laid out the arguments for so... that you go on to respond to. No, that isn't just what they say. It is evidenced by their actions. They have several communication channels out there, including what the official IDF shares almost daily if not many times a day. They post video evidence and more to back up what they are doing and to respond to the lies put out by Hamas. Yet again... here you are saying Israel is lying as much as Trump does... but then you say you fully support them destroying Hamas. Which is it? They are conducting targeted operations. I tell you what, since you seem to be a strategic and tactical mastermind on how to conduct urban warfare against an enemy like Hamas that hides in tunnels and behind their own people... Why don't you go again and lay out this master plan of yours where Israel can destroy Hamas like you want them to. This is such an absurd lie. Israel did not have any plans that said they were going to attack on October 7th like they did. The failures of that day have already started to be explained by much more intelligent people than either of us, yet you call me ignorant. The IDF did not take 10+ hours to respond. The IDF was responding as they could as fast as they could. Hamas took out one of their key bases in the initial invasion where everyone was on duty that would have been responsible for the command and control of any response. That did not stop many units, people off duty, etc... from responding on their own much more quickly than in the 10+ hours you are lying about. Is this your new phrase of the day or something? LOL So, in the end, you do want Hamas to live on and kill more Israelis.

It seems you are conflating things here. You asked about refugees, but then the discussion turned to immigrants, and it seems you started this thread because I brought up illegal immigrants.

You can't even be honest in the end... "and I'm not engaging with it any further. "

No, it is Bidens fault he withdrew as he did and if the circumstances looked as poor as they did, nothing was holding him to any deal made by Trump. He chose what he did and how to do what he did. He could also have pointed to the failure of peace talks... but the simple fact is that Biden wanted us out and he chose to execute that out in the most messy and awful way as he did. It was not meant to describe the legislation, rather, that Biden doesn't need legislation to reverse the crap he has already done and now you want to codify even more into the law.

What? Fossil fuels have made things in our economy cheaper and our way of life better. Having some inconveniences when the world market is distorted by war or other events doesn't even come close to outweighing their benefit. I suppose we should be burning cow shit instead? Give me a break.

This is such a phony argument and an outright lie. The lie: That Israel is engaged in the "indiscriminate murder" of people. Israel is going out of its way to try to conduct this war with a minimal loss of civilian life. It is Hamas who chooses to engage in warfare from behind their own people. The resulting civilian deaths are on them and that is not murder nor is it indiscriminate. The phony narrative: That Israel should just live on with Hamas trying to kill their people forever because stopping them from killing their people will somehow be worse! Hamas just conducted one of the worst attacks against Israel and Jews in history. Raping, murdering (actual murder), torture, and taking hostages... but yeah, somehow Israel is supposed to be more worried it will be worse if they eliminate Hamas. It is a joke. That is not a serious argument. It basically boils down to be too cowardly to just say you support Hamas staying in power and continuing to kill Israeli people.

Nothing... you want to leave them in power so they keep killing Israelis. What subjugation is it you think is happening? What resistance is it you are supporting here?

OK, so please explain, what makes your comment here different from mine? And hopefully, Israel will keep giving it to them until they are destroyed.

Hamas is going to keep killing Israelis. That is what they are going to do and, apparently, exactly what you support letting them do.

Hamas better start surrendering now then.

Again, with the projection. Somehow, Biden can come in and upend just about everything Trump did and set into motion. Abandon his foreign policy with the Middle East, abandon his foreign policy with Iran, immediately set into reversing hundreds of executive orders (like just about any administration does) but all of a sudden, Biden had no choices in Afghanistan. That is the lie here. Trump did not make Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan like he did, that was all on Biden. Well, in regards to the asylum issue... now we get down to what merits asylum. In that Border bill, they loosened that up so that Biden could interpret it even more leniently. Biden owns this mess and he can fix this mess: Asylum plan is insane: Rule will boost protections for illegal immigrants, remove safeguards for US https://nypost.com/2022/09/28/asylum-plan-is-insane-rule-will-boost-ranks-of-illegals/ That bill basically codifies this nonsense into law.

So, Do you support Israel destroying Hamas? You just criticized a comment of mine, cheering that on, and now you say you said nothing in support of Hamas. Sitting here defending them from Israel IS supporting them.

Yes, it does. All you can do is play this sorry game of denying the facts I presented already.

Its all the got. They can't deal with the ugly reality that Biden let these guys go and they murdered a 12 year old girl.

There is no tape of Trump doing what you accuse him of either... You choose to believe some women and not others. No different than what we do.

Feel free to come on back and actually try to articulate what made them hysterical or illogical. If you can. These two people were illegal immigrants. They were apprehended illegally entering the country and Biden just let them go. Instead of dealing with the facts, you want to play your dishonest game of acting like this is just some kind of normal immigration and I am "scapegoating" immigrants in general.

Of course you would thank him for such a deeply dishonest post.

And that is on Hamas. You want to reward Hamas war crimes, leave them in power, so they can keep killing Israelis.

Exactly what resistance is it you are supporting here? Is it Hamas? Talk to Hamas about the war crimes. They are the ones committing them.

They fight where Hamas is fighting this war from and take exceptional precautions to avoid as many collateral deaths as they can. If Hamas surrenders, this is over as soon as they do. Blame Hamas. You have zero business preaching to us about anything "medium" Jesus would denounce you and cast the evil spirits from you.

"We" did not abandon Afghans, Biden did. And, in regards to your asylum position here... does that mean you want to see their claims rejected faster so we can more quickly remove these people or is it that you support more open borders and just faster processing of them into the country?

It is sad how you can muster up more outrage to folks you argue with on the internet than you can for the terrorist thugs of Hamas. I am sure Hamas appreciates your support as well.