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So... you support Israel fighting to eliminate Hamas, then?

And in the meantime... you want to leave Hamas to keep killing Israelis.

Nowhere have you explained anything about your assertion thoroughly at all. You appear to have an absurdly outlandish and wrong understanding of theocracy, that means if religious people participate in Democracy to pass laws they believe in, then if you can't buy a beer on Sunday... OMG THEOCRACY! This is not a serious position, it is just silly ignorant bigotry. Talk about projection.

Again... you made this assertion about a theocracy. I keep asking you to explain it. You keep dodging and ignoring that and acting like this is some kind of legitimate back and forth where you keep asking me questions instead of answering those posed to you. Do you think you are living under a theocracy because you can't buy beer on Sunday? I am starting to question if you even understand what a theocracy is. Up to what is protected by rights... State Legislatures and the Federal Government and Counties and Cities are passing laws non-stop on a million different things. There is no expectation or rule that somehow only atheist beliefs count. Translation: If no one accepts and agrees with you, then screw em. That is not respect. That is spite you have. Nope. The establishment clause has never meant what you are saying it does here.

If you are here saying freedom from religion is that the government shouldn't have those things, then clearly and obviously, you are wrong here. Now, you may want more, but what you want and what actually exists as a right are two different things.

Watching "them" who? Do what year after year? There is plenty of other motivations for passing legislation like this other than wanting a theocracy. You seem to be conflating the fact that religious people exist in this Constitutional Republic and they are allowed to have thoughts, opinions, and beliefs on what kind of norms we live by and legislate by just like anyone else does. That doesn't make us a theocracy because you can't buy beer on Sunday. See, so much for your notion of respect. It is a one way street with you, just like I pointed out in past discussions. You preach about this, but offer very little of your own. But to the point, this is not tolerance, it is acceptance. I hope you have learned the difference. I doubt it though.

Sorry, but yes. Read court precedents on this. I still have no idea what you really mean by this at this point. So..., the government can't have a national day of prayer? Congress can't have a chaplain? The Military can't employ Chaplains and have religious buildings? Government leaders and employees can't express themselves on their faith? There is no freedom from religion.

Asking me a bunch of questions doesn't answer the question. You made the assertion. What I am getting at is asking you to explain what you base that assertion on. Of course it is my place. Of course it is my business. YOU make it my business when YOU demand I accept a lie. I reject your lies, I do not have to agree with your lies. I do not have to behave a certain way to play into the fantasy you want me to. That has nothing to do with tolerance. You are having an argument about what you consider to be basic civility and decency now. Your example is dishonest anyhow, as what you are asking is not as simple as your name... it is that you want me to buy into a lie, that Bill a man, wants to be called Nancy now and wants me to act like he is a woman when he isn't... and not just that, but then demand I let him beat up on actual women in physical sports, share the bathroom with women, get naked in front of women in the changing room... That is not tolerance. That is madness. I do not have to buy into it, accept it, or respect it.

"as guilty" So, to whatever extent you think Trump is guilty, so to is Pelosi and other Democrats like the VP Harris. So, now what?

So... just giving up on trying to explain where you get that they were pushing for a theocracy... LOL, what I think "privately" and now you bring up "respect" and to "be a decent person" (whatever your take on that is) You don't want tolerance, you want to demand I behave a certain way to accept a lie or things I don't agree with. That is not tolerance.

No, I am not like that at all. You were the one who asserted some freedom "from" religion nonsense here as a right, when there is no such thing. Except... the government has never remained free of religion in its entire existence. Please define what exactly you mean by free of religion and how that translates into freedom "from" it. Well, no, there are plenty of questions and debate around the extent to which the establishment clause functions... as we are here debating it and the precedents for this are not black and white like you seem to be arguing.

Well, I think there is some light as Israel has been at more peace with the West Bank than Gaza in the last 20 years. After they purge Hamas, and start taking back the schools, they can start to erase the generational brainwashing Hamas has done to children and start putting a larger dent in this violence in the long run.

Another non-answer. Putting the 10 Commandments in school is not a theocracy nor have those supporting this pushed it as part of some plan to enact one. No, you demand acceptance. Tolerance is live and let live, you demanding others lie to themselves and the world and agree that a man is a woman just because he says he is one is not tolerance, that is you demanding acceptance and participation in the lie. I explained this all repeatedly to you... you ran away from those discussions.

That is on Hamas. They choose to hide and fight among their people. They endanger them. It is a testament to Israeli restraint and patience and going out of their way to avoid civilian deaths that more are not dead.

I fully support being more aggressive in stopping Iran funding their proxies of terror around the world. In the meantime, I also fully support destroying Hamas. It is not an either/or. That isn't what Hamas did or is doing right now.

Not a game. Yes, it will be an ongoing problem that Muslims in the Middle East will hate Jews so much that they wish for the destruction of Israel and the death of as many if not all of them. And Israel will continue to be in the right to defend themselves from it.

You said freedom "from" religion. No such thing. People in government certainly can and do get to talk about their faith. They have freedom OF religion.

You have gone from one absurd assertion about their wanting a theocracy to more. There are already "religious" messages in government buildings; the Establishment Clause has never been a complete ban on such things. That aside, none of what you just said answered my question, so again: Theocracy? Where do you get that is what they are pushing towards and want? Yet again, as I pointed out in discussions you ran away from, you demand acceptance, not tolerance.

Nope. There is no such thing. Freedom of religion means the other kids in that class get to talk about their faith, wear religious materials, slogans, etc... those who disagree or don't like it don't get to be free from it. Comfort is subjective.

You already did... you are just not willing to really commit to it, for whatever reason. Remember, you said: "Israel has a right to exist and therefore to defend themselves."

How did I confuse this with the "evidence" you spoke about? I directly quoted your so called "evidence" which was: ""could", "possible", "many centuries"

I get that and my point is that we should support Israel. You should support Israel. Clear enough?

Theocracy? Where do you get that is what they are pushing towards and want? That isn't what you want though. You demand acceptance. I imagine you also support left wing states that enact laws that hide gender transitions from parents and enable teachers at those schools and the administration there to support and ait kids in their transitions without notifying parents... right? Wrong? And yes, they are targeting our children when they push the normalization of this in schools and encourage kids to engage in gender transition.

How do I not have objectivity? Hamas are the ones who are doing wrong, endangering people. No, the IDF is not doing worse than what Hamas did and continues to do.

Then we support Israel, who is in the right to defend themselves.