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Every policy the Democrats pursue benefits them, personally, and hurts Americans.

EOs do not create laws. They create policies. The new policy is to not gloss over violent rhetoric. We have in the past and now the left has NORMALIZED hatred and violence in their party. That will not end until they pay real, material consequences. If it does not end, more people will die. In the worst case scenario, the vitriol and violence of the left will drive some on the right to react in kind, sparking a tit for tat civil war. It is best to prosecute speech that crosses the line to specifically calling for violence. Like when Don Lemon told illegal aliens to get a gun and defend themselves from ICE.

Y'all are just mad because you can't attack the source.

9 The police said it was half of that. Still impressive, but it is lefty looney Cali, so meh. Grok says this picture has 5,000 to 7,000 people in it. If the police are right and we use that to correct the organizers' over estimates, it was more lok 3.5 million. If we take Grok at his word, it was more like 1 million.

They don't. That isn't the belief.

There is no second amendment right to shoot federal, state or local officials.

No he isn't. We went over this. I cited Hamilton in Federalist 29 and the actual amendment. You cited some rando's comment you saw on the web some where. I win.

His statement was against the law, with or without the EO. In fact, all the EO really does is tell law enforcement to not ignore those offenses. It doesnt create any new laws or circumstances. Brandenburg v Ohio addresses what Lemon said. It spells out how specifically instructing violence is not protected by the First.

Right. They were just fishing from that submersible?

The actual order, absent lwnj histerics: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/ NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM/NSPM-7 MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY SUBJECT: Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following: Section 1. Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence. Heinous assassinations and other acts of political violence in the United States have dramatically increased in recent years. Even in the aftermath of the horrifying assassination of Charlie Kirk, some individuals who adhered to the alleged shooter’s ideology embraced and cheered this evil murder while actively encouraging more political violence. This was preceded by the 2024 assassination of a senior healthcare executive and the 2022 assassination attempt against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Two separate assassination attempts against my own life in less than 3 months took place during the 2024 Presidential election cycle. Riots in Los Angeles and Portland reflect a more than 1,000 percent increase in attacks on U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers since January 21, 2025, compared to the same period last year. Just yesterday, a shooting targeting an ICE facility in Dallas resulted in multiple casualties. Separate anti-police and “criminal justice” riots have left many people dead and injured and inflicted over $2 billion in property damage nationwide. This political violence is not a series of isolated incidents and does not emerge organically. Instead, it is a culmination of sophisticated, organized campaigns of targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society. A new law enforcement strategy that investigates all participants in these criminal and terroristic conspiracies — including the organized structures, networks, entities, organizations, funding sources, and predicate actions behind them — is required. These campaigns often begin by isolating and dehumanizing specific targets to justify murder or other violent action against them. They do so through a variety of fora, including anonymous chat forums, in-person meetings, social media, and even educational institutions. These campaigns then escalate to organized doxing, where the private or identifying information of their targets (such as home addresses, phone numbers, or other personal information) is exposed to the public with the explicit intent of encouraging others to harass, intimidate, or violently assault them. As in the case of several ICE agents in Los Angeles being doxed, the goal of these campaigns can be to obstruct the operations of the Federal Government as well as aid and abet criminal activity the Federal Government is lawfully pursuing. These campaigns are coordinated and perpetrated by actors who have developed a comprehensive strategy to achieve specific policy goals through radicalization and violent intimidation. There are common recurrent motivations and indicia uniting this pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described “anti-fascism.” These movements portray foundational American principles (e.g., support for law enforcement and border control) as “fascist” to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution. This “anti-fascist” lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions, constitutional rights, and fundamental American liberties. Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality. As described in the Order of September 22, 2025 (Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization), the groups and entities that perpetuate this extremism have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations. For example, Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin engraved the bullets used in the murder with so-called “anti-fascist” rhetoric. The United States requires a national strategy to investigate and disrupt networks, entities, and organizations that foment political violence so that law enforcement can intervene in criminal conspiracies before they result in violent political acts. Through this comprehensive strategy, law enforcement will disband and uproot networks, entities, and organizations that promote organized violence, violent intimidation, conspiracies against rights, and other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society. Sec. 2. Investigating Domestic Terrorist Organizations. (a) The National Joint Terrorism Task Force and its local offices (collectively, “JTTFs”) shall coordinate and supervise a comprehensive national strategy to investigate, prosecute, and disrupt entities and individuals engaged in acts of political violence and intimidation designed to suppress lawful political activity or obstruct the rule of law. This strategy shall include the investigatory and prosecutorial measures set forth in this section. (b) The JTTFs shall investigate potential Federal crimes relating to acts of recruiting or radicalizing persons for the purpose of: (i) political violence, terrorism, or conspiracy against rights; or (ii) the violent deprivation of any citizen’s rights. (c) The JTTFs shall also investigate: (i) institutional and individual funders, and officers and employees of organizations, that are responsible for, sponsor, or otherwise aid and abet the principal actors engaging in the criminal conduct described in subsections (a) and (b) of this section; and (ii) non-governmental organizations and American citizens residing abroad or with close ties to foreign governments, agents, citizens, foundations, or influence networks engaged in violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (22 U.S.C. 611 et seq.) or money laundering by funding, creating, or supporting entities that engage in activities that support or encourage domestic terrorism. (d) The JTTFs shall consult and coordinate with executive departments and agencies (agencies) as needed to determine whether such agencies can apply existing authorities or exercise their own authorities, as appropriate, to support the JTTFs’ investigations and relevant prosecutions of political violence. (e) The JTTFs may, to the extent permitted by law, request operational assistance from and coordinate with law enforcement partners when investigating domestic terrorism. (f) The National Joint Terrorism Task Force shall provide regular progress updates to the President through the Assistant to the President and Homeland Security Advisor. (g) The Attorney General shall direct the Department of Justice to prosecute all Federal crimes, to the maximum extent permissible by law, related to the investigations described in subsections (a) through (c) of this section. (h) The Attorney General shall issue specific guidance that ensures domestic terrorism priorities include politically motivated terrorist acts such as organized doxing campaigns, swatting, rioting, looting, trespass, assault, destruction of property, threats of violence, and civil disorder. This guidance shall also include an identification of any behaviors, fact patterns, recurrent motivations, or other indicia common to organizations and entities that coordinate these acts in order to direct efforts to identify and prevent potential violent activity. (i) The Secretary of the Treasury (Secretary), in coordination with the Attorney General, shall make available all resources, to the maximum extent permitted by law, to identify and disrupt financial networks that fund domestic terrorism and political violence. The Secretary, acting through the Terrorism and Financial Intelligence Office of the Department of the Treasury, shall deploy investigative tools, examine financial flows, and coordinate with partner agencies to trace illicit funding streams. The Secretary shall provide guidance for financial institutions to file Suspicious Activity Reports and investigate indicia of illicit funding streams to ensure such activity is rooted out at the source and referred for law enforcement action, as appropriate. (j) The Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service (Commissioner) shall take action to ensure that no tax-exempt entities are directly or indirectly financing political violence or domestic terrorism. In addition, where applicable, the Commissioner shall ensure that the Internal Revenue Service refers such organizations, and the employees and officers of such organizations, to the Department of Justice for investigation and possible prosecution. (k) All Federal law enforcement agencies with investigative authority shall question and interrogate, within all lawful authorities, individuals engaged in political violence or lawlessness regarding the entity or individual organizing such actions and any related financial sponsorship of those actions prior to adjudication or initiation of a plea agreement. Investigations should prioritize crimes such as the following: assaulting Federal officers or employees or otherwise engaging in conduct proscribed by 18 U.S.C. 111; conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C. 241; conspiracy to commit offense under 18 U.S.C. 371; solicitation to commit a crime of violence under 18 U.S.C. 373; money laundering under 18 U.S.C. 1956; funding of terrorist acts or otherwise facilitating terrorism under 18 U.S.C. 2339, 2339A, 2339B, 2339C, and 2339D; arson offenses under 18 U.S.C. 844; violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (18 U.S.C. 1961 et seq.); and major fraud against the United States under 18 U.S.C. 1031. (l) All Federal law enforcement agencies with investigative authority shall adopt strategies similar to those used to address violent crime and organized crime to disrupt and dismantle entire networks of criminal activity. Sec. 3. Department of Justice Designation. In the course of and as a result of the investigations directed by section 2 of this memorandum, the Attorney General may recommend that any group or entity whose members are engaged in activities meeting the definition of “domestic terrorism” in 18 U.S.C. 2331(5) merits designation as a “domestic terrorist organization.” The Attorney General shall submit a list of any such groups or entities to the President through the Assistant to the President and Homeland Security Advisor. Sec. 4. Domestic Terrorism as a National Priority Area. The Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall designate domestic terrorism a national priority area and develop appropriate grant programs to allocate funding for law enforcement partners to detect, prevent, and protect against threats arising from this area. Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. (d) The Secretary of Homeland Security is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register. DONALD J. TRUMP

Pretend this didn't happen:

Truth and Accountability Project should be renamed to LIES and Fantasies Project: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/truth-accountability-project-bias-and-credibility/

That justifies killing him then? Is that what you are trying to say?

How many times was Obama shot? How many liberal commentators were killed? How many cities did right wing rioters burn down and take over? How many statues did the right destroy? You want to use rule #2 on me like it is some armor against your own flaws. Really, all you do when you attack me is give me an opportunity to point out just how disgusting and filthy your side has become.

Uh huh. I sit her by the pool with a fire going enjoying so JW Blue feeling just like a victim. Meanwhile, rather than denouncing protesters that pretend to kill the President, you are focused on telling me how you disaprive of what I am doing. What I am doing is pointing out the hatred, vitriol and violence that is becoming NORMALIZED on your side now.

I am still trying to figure out what the left has against Elvis.

Funny. Sadly, we cant be like them and wish ill on them. Their sins are their sins. We have enough sins to deal with.

Let it go. He's making ridiculous statements in an attempt to derail the thread because he knows another one of his ilk tried to kill Trump.

Lol...you think someone married him?

Since when do fishermen use submersibles? BTW, it's a 2 day boat ride from Venezuela to Corpus Christi. They absolutely can do it. If you think they can't carry the gas, just assume they meet up with "fishermen" that hand them gas along the way. You make it sound like getting a boat from Venezuela to the US is like taking an airplane to the moon. It is clearly doable. Bow stop trying to derail the thread. What guessing? Give me a viable reason to put a tree stand in a tree on a highway next to an airport where the President frequents.

Is it a leap or just the next logical step? Is it even a step when there have already been two attempts on his life? I am sure you are saying to us "It isn't happeing" while you are thinking "It is so great that this is happening."

Pretend this did not happen:

Here we go again. Literally the day after the left went around stabbing effigies of Trump and screaming fascist and nazi like they were just let out of the looney bin, we find another presumed attempt to kill DJT. Agents confirm suspicious hunting stand found where Trump exits Air Force One at PBIA Southern Boulevard reopened to traffic at 5 p.m. on Oct. 19, about 24 hours after the FBI shut it down between Military Trail and Congress Avenue. The area they appear to be talking about is in the following 3 pics: The red arrow points to the airport. This is important because you will see that the area is very urban. It is highly highly unlikely that anyone would have put a tree stand here for legitimate hunting purposes. These two pictures narrow down the probable location of the tree stand. It is close enough to make a reasonable shot. A good gun and scope and an average shooter would have a good chance. I would say there is a 99.99% chance this stand was placed there to kill Trump. The location is perfect and there is no reasonable scenario that would make this an innocent mistake.

Oh look, they are teaching kids how to kill the President. Isn't that just peachy! No wonder they want us to pretend it didnt happen.