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well - you certainly just did blame it on everything but the real cause. Well done.

Oh - forgot to mention.... isreal is believed to have about 400 nukes. So maybe those arabs you mentioned should be damn thankful that isreal has some non nuclear options, or i suspect prettty fast theyd' be glowing in the dark.

Perhaps the problem is that what was said was idi*tic. Yeah - hamas bad BUT hey.. not nearly as bad as others including isreal who is just like the russians. Which is a pretty horrible thing to say. I literally posted word for word what you said. If you find it so shameful you call it a lie, well that's on you. Maybe don't say stuff like that. I have no idea but you sure seem to. You spend a lot of time defending them and downplaying what they do . "Hey come on guys, hamas isn't perfect but geez they're not as bad as those russians amiright?!?" Or "The real bad guys here isn't hamas who started a war with isreal which caused the suffering of the people - the REAL bad guy here is isreal for daring to fight back!!!!s Hamas is really the victim!!!!! Or "we should destroy hamas - provided they never hide behind any civillians. Otherwise we should let them go because then it would be mean to go after them." Gaza and it's legitimate gov't Hamas, beloved and supported by the people, started a war with israel in a horrible fashion. Israel will now do whatever it takes to end that threat. Any gaza casualties are the responsibilty of Hamas and the people who support them and keep them in power.

I don't think it would be a good idea for albertans. I mean there's still room for debate and i'm not 100 percent convinced but i see mostly downsides and not a lot of upsides. I think the potential for disaster is there. As far as national unit goes i see your point, but honestly i dont think anyone would really care.

I loved when they asked the minister straight out "is this becasue you're doing so bad in the polls?" And they said "Naaaaaaaaaaw, totally coincidental" The thing is this kind of half measure usually just winds up pissing eveyrone off. THe enivironmental types are still angry because you backed down, and everyone else is still mad because it's still on their fuel and inflation is so high etc. And putting it off till right after the next election isn't terribly bright.

Or suing a gun manufacturer for the actions of a crazy person? LOLOL in any case for sure it's a legislative issue. But - there's little chance of their being a change when the democrats act like psychopaths towards any gun or gun owner and the republicans are petrified of giving them a milimeter. If the dems would settle down and just accept that gun ownership is a right in the us and lawful people are going to own one and that does NOT mean they hate their children, then i think headway could be made. Reasonable reporting laws for the background checks, reasonable laws compelling treatment of dangerous mental illnesess, etc.

Is the inconvenient truth that this is a mental health issue and not a gun issue? we're quite aware of it. But this thread shows why that truth will never be addressed - freaks like you will immediately turn it into a "confiscate all guns and gun owenrs R bad" discussion and that ends the chance of any productive talks. I think most gun owners would support the idea of things like restricting anyone with mental health issues or the like - but they can't afford to even discuss it knowing that all people like you care about is locking them up and banning all guns and you don't care about absues of the system. So they won't risk it. And that is the REAL inconvenient truth.

I don't know that the problem is the health professionals, i think the problem there might be the laws and what they can do There's no doubt that a lack of treatment and tools for the mentally ill play a very large role in these kinds of killings, whether they're with cars or guns or fire or anything else.

LOL - yes, they are Or did you mean to say "excluding any country that doesn't prove my point" Actually they do consider it to be a right. Try taking them away, see how that works out And for it to even be relevant you'd have to prove that somehow thinking firearms ownership is a right makes people go crazy and shoot up bowling alleys. Becasue either way - the presence of guns is the same but the violence is not. So basically anybody can do that with pretty minimal training and in the case of pumps and levers basically no triaining - and that shoots your whole "SeMi AUtOs ArE 100 biLLiON TimEs MOre DaNGErOus" argument in it's ass. I could have you shooting most bolt action rifles pretty much that fast in next to no time. It requires at least as much training and practice to properly shoot a semi to prevent jams on reloads etc etc. Your 'it's the gun" argument is a complete failure. If semi autos were actually that lethal that's all militaries would use as a main battle rifle. Instead they don't - they use assault rifles which have select fire capability. NO ARMY ANYWHERE EVER FIELDED THE AR AS A MAIN BATTLE RIFLE. Why not? I mean if they kiill as fast as you pull the trgiger that would be more than enough right? Kid .... pay attention, i'll say it slowly .... it's ... not... the ... .gun. Ar's are popular for these incidents in the states because they're the most scary gun there is according to the media.

Well no, i did not say that actually. Linda From said that. It was her tweet. I was more interested in the ralley. Sorry - is your claim that simply SHOOTING women and babies which there is plenty of proof of GOOD PR for hamas? Are you trying to say what they did would be fine and perfectly accepted if it wasn't for beheading babies? What the HELL is wrong with you? Nope.. the palestinians, who are 100 percent complicit in their gov'ts actions - are unfortunately having to bear the consequences of the war their gov't started. I suppose you could argue that hamas has lead them to this place so they're sort of victims of hamas starting this war, but really they knew what hamas was over the last decades. Isreal did not cross the border and kill 1400 civillians and start a war. Gaza did. Now israel is going to finish that war. Lesson here is if you don't want to get crushed in a war with israel, don't start wars with israel.

I know - i quoted it so everyone could see. you THEN go on to say... BUT! .. and that's what people say when they're cancelling out what went before - followed by So - ohhh well it might be bad BUT - it's no where near as bad as what isreal or the russians did Sorry kiddo -that absolutely counts as completely downplaying what hamas did. That is the truth. I posted it all for people to see. YOU are the liar here, who pretends at first to condemn hamas BUT then says the're really not that bad after all And that's how you say MOST of your comments. "ohh sure sure hamas bad yes ok sure.. BUT - not really, isreal is far worse and anyway it's not really gaza or their gov't hamas it's just the guys who went in and did the terrible thing. You don't get to say that. THe attack launched by the gov't of teh people of Gaza was HORRIFIC. Period. No but. AND - isreal is justified in the name of defense to take whatever steps are necessary to wipe that threat out so it doesnt' happen again. No buts. Don't try to make it sound like hamas or it's supporters are the victims here. They're getting what they started.

Russia and switzerland are devleoped nations. So is mexico for that matter. And that's just some of them. my anti virus freaks out going to that site But it doesn't matter. The fact is they have lots of guns and few shootings. You can try to twist that but it's a simple truth. Russia has few guns but lots of murders If you knew ANYTHING about guns you'd know that is a dumb argument. Tell you what - you come join me at the range and i'll give you a nice semi auto and i'll use a pump action duck gun and we'll see who hits the target fastest. Hell i bet i beat you with most levers And ever tried a 'mad minute' drill? This is common knowledge and was used by the brits for years - tell me all about how slow this is: 20 - 30 rounds on target in a minute WITH RELOADING at 300 yards was not uncommon and certainly not the record. Shotguns are even faster. Sure - no law against lying. Kind of what people expect from the anti-gun crowd. Or you could stick with the usual nonsense like we like guns more than children if you want a more classic lie But it would be untrue in both cases. And that was rather the point. which obviously went over your head. So. We've learned that the gun doesn't really matter. Bad guys like the ar-15 because it makes people like you kek their pants. We've learned that having guns present doesn't matter. We've learned that gun laws make very little difference (you didn't even ask about the ones that might). We've learned that mental health issues are the common factor in these things. We done blaming the gun yet?

Do you now because you don't seem to be advocating for that anywhere. Anyway here's some stats that are similar - same rough time frame and age groups. https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/child_passenger_safety/cps-factsheet.html https://www.thetrace.org/2023/06/children-gun-safety-accidental-shootings/ https://www.healthday.com/health-news/public-health/b-6-10-drownings-in-home-pools-hot-tubs-claim-lives-of-hundreds-of-kids-each-year-2657480997.htmla 711 car deaths to 161 kids fatal shooting themselves or other kids. 389 for pools (that they know of - not all drownings just pools and hot tubs). But you know - i have this strange feeling we won't see you spending a lot of time advocating for that or saying "parents love their pools more than their kids".

Well some would argue that for the bank to be stupid with regards to economics is in fact an example of both stupidity AND incompetence Well maybe you SHOULD be. Sounds like you're already better qualified. Agreed - and displaying that kind of 'dumb' in his position is a serious issue - it casts doubt over our entire system and it's ability to respond.

Dude - you're the one who wanted to see the dead babies - i was fine without it. Israel. And? Gaza is only going to lose because they picked a fight with Israel. If they hadn't done that they wouldn't be in trouble. We all make choices - israel sounds like it makes better choices. There's threads about all that stuff going on right now. Methinks thou doth protest too much

Guns are not 'unique' to the us in the slighests. How about Switzerland https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912 Machine guns in homes in large numbers, almost as many guns and gun owners as the states - no where near the murder rate. There's lots of examples but your argument fails right there. So - what about murder rates in general? Does having lots of guns make the us the highest murder rate? I mean - that's your argument isn't it, that guns make murder easier and thats' why it happens there? Nope - us is way down the list. Even russia is higher with it's strict gun control. Tonnes of other countries with VERY strict controls ahead of the us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate Mexico has VASTLY higher murders and VERY strict gun laws. Turns out other factors play much bigger roles. What, that bigotry and !diocy born of false information is bad? Yeah - i have no problem with that. You do? You coudl be stating that gays are all pedophuiles and that i'm free to disagree and my response would be the same - "yeah - but you're wrong. The facts prove it" Didn't you guys want to ban the wall too?

I thought it was about dead children? Ahhh - i see, it's not the fact that children die that's your concern, as long as they die in a manner you consider to be less important. Bit of an odd argument to make but ok. You feel that lifeguards would stop intentional drownings or that seatbelts would stop vehicular homicides or even drunk driving deaths? And are lifeguards required for children to swim in the states? Pretty sure lots of people have home pools without lifeguards. There's already lots of gun laws even in the states, nobody can just walk into a store slap money down and walk out with a gun legally in ANY state. We certainly don't let children buy them. So.... And it's perfectly legal to swim without a licensed lifeguard in the US - so are you suggesting that should be mandatory? So your argument is specious at best. There is no comparison. And at the end of the day if it were about 'concern for kids', why aren't you concerned about what kills them the most? You're wringing your hands over something that kills very few kids and blowing off something that kills far more as no big deal. So why don't you quit with the bullshit and take this seriously. Because i know you can.

Lied by pointing to YOUR OWN STATEMENTS!?!? Well i suppose quoting you could be considered REPEATING a lie but i don't know if i'd be pointing that out if i were you.

the boc expected the costs of housing to come down DESPITE knowing about the supply issue. That was the point, "We're SHOCKED that prices stayed high despite the fact that there's no homes". That smacks of incomptetence. Of course prices stayed high

No, they just drove into them and shot and killed their people. Get your head out of your ass. Pretending that hamas didn't do anything wrong.... honestly what is WRONG with you? Not retaliation - defense. They need to wipe out hamass and this is necessary to make that happen. Who do you think those supplies will go to? Hamas will be first in line. Sorry - that's in your imagination. This is a war now. This is what happens in war.

And that level of stupidity is why there will never be changes to the gun laws in the us, and why canada will probably roll back some of it's gun laws. All gays are child molesters. All black people are theives. Gun owenrs love guns more than children Sigh. Sometimes it's hard to think of humans who think like that as the best we could come up with after 4 billion years of evolution. If you really meant what you say - you'd demand we ban all teachers and sports coaches because sometimes the molest children, you'd DEMAND a ban on swimming pools because they kill more kids than guns, you'd insist children not be allowed in vehicles because far more will die in car accidents than by guns.... I' man what's wrong with you? Do you love cars more than your own children? You MUST right?!?!

The do not happen in areas of poverty or drug use. Sandy hook is a prosperous community. Las vegas is not poor and neither was the shooter. L'ecole politechnique is not in a poor area. Dawson was not poor. Virginia tech is not full of poor people. This is my problem - you just make random crap up or you listen to people who just make random crap up. The number one determining factor and one that was present in ALL of those is mental health issues. There was a small group who did some fascinating work studuying this, but if mental health issues go undetected and untreated or unaddressed by authorities then this can be the result if certain criteria are met. The only time poverty comes into play is organized crime or gang shootings which are technically 'mass murders' but clearly not the kind of thing we're talking about here. And if I feel more comfortable banning gays from teaching at schools, should we do that? Your comfort level is not relevant. That is not true. Again - you're making up facts. Go check out gary mauser's work. You can see DIFFERENT murders but in reality the murder rate for any given country has NOTHING to do with the avialability of guns. J No, the issue at hand is that you made a claim about semi auto rifles being the most popular for killings and they're not even close in either country. Funny how you want to "change the issue" after i point out you're not correct. Almost all of it. And almost all of the long gun crime as well. Almost all GUN crime is from smuggled guns in Canada. Funny story - despite the regulation it's still easy for people who want to commit crimes to get a gun. No problem driving around with a short barreled shotgun at all, and i can have the ammo at the ready no issue. IF by 'sawed off" you mean short barreled shotguns i have MANY of them, (shotguns being a fave of mine). In fact - short shotguns are actually more illegal in the states where you need a specific special tax stamp than they are in Canada where they are unrestricted firearms. I have several with 12 inch barrels - i used to have one wit an 8 inch barrel. II have been pulled over (forgot to put my insurance sticker on the license plate) by a cop just after i bought a mare's leg super short lever action 44 mag that's basically the size of a large handgun and it was on my passenger seat while the cop talked to me - didn't even ask about it despite it being clearly in site - and this was in a major city. Not the first time something like that happened. So - once again you don't know the law. You don't have the slighetst clue - just an uninformed opinon but yeah ... guns are the problem and all gun owners are like "murica man!! Yeash.

Sure. Guess you can stop using other provinces land for pipelines too right? I mean - you wouldn't want to be taking advantage of them right?

LOL - if only.

These are people who regularly decide to pick a fight with one of the most powerful military forces on earth by digging up water pipes, filling them with explosive and shooting them randomly in their direction knowing full well that the response will be thousands and thosuands of precision guided munitions that will leave the home they live in a wasteland and their people dead. Then as soon as they rebuild do it again. It's POSSIBLE - just POSSIBLE that we're not dealing with the highest thinkers on the planet.