Aristides
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Bullshit, they have been separated without their consent and what are you going to do with them if they do, you can’t deport the kid. This is too funny, now you want to lock them up which means they will still be in the country and then what will you do with the kid, put them in jail with their parents? Maybe some of them will prefer a US jail to what may be awaiting them if they are sent back.
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User cites one case and condemns all illegals as criminals. He justifies deporting all because of a crime by one. So he is accusing them of a crime. Exactly, you have to provide a reason for holding someone. User claims they can hold all responsible for the actions of one. You guys refuse to answer the question. What will be done with these kids if their parents don't take them?
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Habeas corpus basically means, show us the body. You can't accuse someone of a crime if you can't show a crime has been committed. You present one case and claim millions are guilty. You have not answered the question. What do you do with the kids if the parents don't take them? What do YOU do with them? You can blame the parents all you want but the reality is, they cannot be forced to remove citizens from the country.
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There are millions of acres of forest in northern Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba that have never been logged as well as the NWT. Other than removing slash and planting more fire resistant species after logging and fires there isn't much in the way of management that can be done for the rest. Hotter, dryer summers and lower snow packs mean more fires. They also mean more thunderstorms and lightning strikes.
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1944 was WW2 and Paris was liberated from the Nazi's in August. You should quit whatever it is you are on.
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You say there are millions of illegals an d bring up one case. You can produce nothing that shows the are committing a greater rate of crimes than citizens. Stop with the bullshit, I have never pushed for anything of the sort. I don’t object to deporting people who enter illegally unless they are escaping persecution. Both our countries have a history of that. I’m just saying that you can’t force parents to remove citizen children from their country of citizenship. You can’t force any citizen to leave for any reason.
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What crimes have they committed? I'm not saying you can't deport people who have entered the country illegally, I am saying you can't force them to take US citizens with them if they don't want to. At no time have I ever supported open borders, I do support due process. Laws aren't something to be ignored just because it is convenient.
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We haven't changed the way they are managed but these huge wildfires are becoming far more frequent. Why? Drought and higher temperatures are making forests more vulnerable. Why are we experiencing more frequent droughts and higher temperatures? No one has ever said carbon tax would solve climate change, it was to encourage people to make the changes that would at least slow change. Anyway it is gone now so find another whipping boy.
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You can’t deport a citizen for something their parents did. The parents don’t have to do anything for the kid to stay in the country because the kid is a citizen with the rights of a citizen. When is that going to sink in. This is one of the reasons I’m against citizenship based solely on birth and the only way to stop it is amend that constitution.
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What does it say? You are saying the parents should be forced to make that choice. You are the one saying that parents should be forced to make the choice between being with their kids and their kids having to give up the rights that come with their citizenship. Go take your kid to be poor in a 3rd world country with few opportunities when they could grow up US citizens. That is the "choice" you righteous wankers want to give them.
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Why? They would giving up their kids so they could have a chance in a new country that they chose to try and improve their lives. You think you are doing the kids (US citizens) a favour by sending them back to grow up in gang infested poverty? Is that how you want to treat your citizens? No, they are just kids (US citizens) who are victims of your actions. The kids had nothing to do with it but they are the ones who get screwed.
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You keep repeating the same crap. People don't choose to go to jail yet you separate them from their kids. Don't blame the kids or make them suffer for what you do to their parents. The kids are citizens and have committed no crimes. Boot the parents if you want but you have to accept responsibility for the innocent citizens who are victims of your actions.
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The kids are citizens, the parents don't have to come up with anything. You can't force citizens to leave. So what, you can't ship prisoner's kids out of the country or put them in prison with their parents. The kids are citizens and have the rights of every other citizen. You would have to look after them or do you just turn the kids of prisoners loose on the street to look after themselves. The kids didn't do anything but be born. What does happen to kids of parents sent to prison in your country. Do you just ignore them and let them fend for themselves?
