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LMAO it’s 100% correct and you unhinged response only proves me correct. You’re just another delusional right wing internet kook threatening violence in the name of national greatness….the key feature of the 20th century fascists. PS no way I want to be under the same flag as you American nutjobs or any other foreigners. That’s just more of your absolute batshit No I think you’re the delusional one. You havr zero awareness yourself or the real world. You let your cult leader dictate your beliefs to you.

Sure, but none of those people made their country great. Hitler didn’t run for office saying “vote for our party, I’ll make myself dictator, round up millions of people for imprisonment or extermination and start a world war that will call tens of millions.” He simply promised to restore Germany’s lost economic and military greatness, and let people read between the lines (or not) regarding his intent to end democracy, given their many open criticisms of democracy that stopped short of explicitly calling for its end. Again letting supporters choose their own reality about what they wanted to believe.

Yes And DNC had its own platform too https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2020-democratic-party-platform Thank you for proving once again that you’re batshit crazy. BTW you forgot to mention the Lizard people who fool everyone into thinking the earth is round

Yes you did in 2016, I’m hoping you don’t do a repeat

Substitute the word “American” for “German” or “Italian” and that’s exactly what the fascists said in Europe around 100 years ago. If you really want to stop being called fascist you should stop talking like one. It’s all fun and games until someone loses a democracy.

You mean the Dixiecrats used to before they migrated to the Republican Party decades ago, or like the anti-Obama protesters lynching Obama in effigy, or the White nationalists, KKK and neo-nazis who openly support amd endorse Trump? Also I don’t recall any Republican ever calling for the “suppression” of any hate speech, their standard response has been to decry it as (maybe) reprehensible but then say nobody is forcing you to listen to it and amd speech should not be silenced. Unless that speech is directed at Trump and/or Republicans, Israeli government policies of any kind, and possibly the bible…. then they call for suppression

Notice the blood on the ground

Technically. But if doing so caused a stampede and people got hurt or died you would be likely be charged with some offence if you didn’t actually believe there was a fire. How exactly will Republicans enforce that plank of their platform without actually forming a dictatorship?

Another opposite-of-reality joke. As evidenced by the Democrats current in-fighting over replacing Biden, the party is not under the cult leadership of anyone much less Pelosi and Schumer of all people Reality has also shown that the GOP is the cult of Trump and TrUMP alone, with RNC in Milwaukee being widely described as a “ring-kissing contest” of speaker after speaker adulating Trump as humanity’s lone saviour and benevolent god HE ALONE CAN SAVE US. Not his team, not his people, ONLY HIM The RNC is also described as “ritual humiliation” for all those Republicans who dared to challenge him like Haley and DeSantis, who each were required to appear on stage to repent their sins and express their newfound undying loyalty to Trump while the crowd booed and jeered All you need to do is look at this humiliation display and how Republicans have canceled and attacked all Republicans who have refused to bend the knee to Trump (Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, Pence etc etc) to know that the claim that the GOP is a free speech party that welcomes diversity of thought is a hilarious joke Mile Pence did not attend RNC out of fear for his personal safety The GOP has no coherent platform because it is the cult of Trump and has no independent beliefs or consciousness except to worship Trump and support whatever he decides to do or not do, say or not say “we have no idea what he might say or do but whatever it is we unconditionally support it because we worship him”. That was essentially what they publicly declared in 2020 when they didn’t release a platform. In 2024 I believe they simply photocopied the Trump campaign platform and declared it their own, after Lara Trump took over leadership of the GOP and earlier this year declared that ”every single penny” of RNC funds should go to Trump. To whit: those espousing the exact same political and economic views as Trump supporters are shunned and abused if they don’t support Trump as the ideal party leader while while those with un-conservative views who publicly support Trump are welcomed and celebrated. For example Liz Cheney, a traditional conservative whose congressional voting record was actually highly consistent with the Trump White House and GOP colleagues, and who had one of the highest ratings from conservative groups and lobbyists is a HATED ONE solely because she opposed Trump’s 2020 election lies. Meanwhile those with un-conservative views who support Trump are welcomed with open arms, e.g, Elise Stefanik, a long-time moderate Republican whom Conservatives had long decried her as a “New York liberal,” whose congressional voting record was least consistent with the Trump White House and GOP colleagues, who had one the worst ratings from conservative groups and lobbyists, but always publicly praised and supported Trump including his 2020 election lies She is welcomed with open arms and was even considered to be a potential Trump VP pick The Republican Party has become the “choose your own reality” party with Trump as the undisputed god. You can believe the nobody has done more to stop Putin or COVID than Trump, or you can believe that Trump is the only one to know COVID was a hoax and Putin is the good guy. You can believe Trump conceded the 2020 election with dignity and denounced the “heinous attack” on Jan 6 or you can believe he continues to fight the stolen election and the J6 attackers we’re peaceful visitors on a family-friendly self-guided tour and are political prisoners. As long as you unconditionally worship Trump your perception of reality doesn’t matter. In fact, Trump and his closest supporters intentionally create conflicting perceptions of reality as he has personally and deliberately said all of these contradictory claims, knowing his followers will cherry-pick, exaggerate and fabricate whatever “facts” they need to in order to believe their beliefs align with their infallible Messiah. In the cult of GOP, unconditional worship of the messiah and unconstitutional hatred of all those who refuse to do the same is all that matters. No policy platform or shared perception of reality is required for that.

Not when a hostile power controls its resources, trade or access to the outside world No, HDI is not a measurement of suffering Its also a fact that Blacks Jim Crow South or even for some in the time of slavery were economically better off than when they were Africa. I don’t think thatbis the whole story That has nothing to do with Israel’s illegal occupation of the OT, whose inhabitants get ZERO of those rights and freedoms and whose people have long suffered all sorts of arbitrary cruelty. Israel is ALSO an oppressor of Palestinians and Israel helped orchestrate Hamas takeover of Gaza Furthermore Hamas doesn’t continue the West Bank but Israel is a cruel oppressor there as well, attempting to weaken the PA which was a peace partner before Israel assassinated its own Prime Minister abandoned peace entirely

Inaccurate and dishonest depiction of those who seek a 2 state solution and end to Israel’s continued illegal settlements

That’s not true, the FACT is that the last time a peace was made, hardline right wing Israelis assassinated their Prime Minister and replaced his government with an aggressive anti-peace government that has been in near- constant control ever since. And let’s get back to the OP: this illegal land grab in the west bank and settler terrorism has NOTHING to do with peace or security. In fact, it worsens chances for both and is outright theft. Unsurprisingly none of the Israel apologists in this thread will address it directly except to say they hope Israel ethnically cleanses the region of Palestinians because “they deserve it” which is an argument with no moral or legal grounding.

USA is a democracy and a republic, period. At least for now.

Some of the most dangerous things about Trump are the horrible people he surrounds himself with. Who knows how many of these whackos will end up in his administration. He will appoint many unpleasant goons, who will each appoint many unpleasant goons of their own in turn. His bio sounds like he has good shot at a government job unothe Trump administration: A former Green Beret and military intelligence officer, a lawyer, and a failed Virginia US Senate candidate, Raiklin also calls himself the “Deep State Marauder.” He’s a colleague of former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and has been traveling the country with him this year as part of Flynn’s ReAwaken American tour. … Raiklin was involved with Flynn’s efforts to help overturn the results of the 2020 election. He is the author of the “Operation Pence Card” memo, which proposed that Vice President Mike Pence could block certification of the election results on January 6. Raiklin’s name came up repeatedlyduring the House committee investigation of January 6, but he was never subpoenaed. For the past six months or so, Raiklin has been circulating an enemies list of about 350 people whom he believes should be prosecuted for treason. The list, which has unnerved many democracy advocates, includes former Vice President Mike Pence, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, journalists, witnesses from Trump’s impeachment hearings, Capitol police officers, and more. …. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/i-found-ivan-raiklin-the-secretary-of-retribution-at-the-republican-convention/#:~:text=I found the “Secretary of Retribution” on Tuesday%2C sitting,of former President Donald Trump.

Most of the world’s democracies are republics and most of the world’s republics are democracies. Constitutional monarchy democracies like Canada and UK are in the minority. A country can be both a democracy and a republic. Constitutional democracy and representative democracy are both forms of democracy. The mythical kind of democracy where every citizen votes on laws and bills doesn’t exist and couldn’t possibly function in any population of significant size. Therefore it’s not correct to use that as the one and only definition of democracy and them say the US is not a democracy. Again, this argument only started appearing relatively recently a d it was one Russian troll farms liked to spread to undermine democracy

What does retribution look like? Trump’s wannabe “Secretary or Retribution” spells it out: A “target list” with hundreds of Trump critics, politicians and journalists to be arrested by deputized mobs of ex-military right wing extremists during “live streamed swat raids,” public show trials, etc. Its pure nazi jerkoff material in every sense Trump Ally Exposed for Horrific Hit List of Political Enemies Donald Trump’s self-proclaimed “secretary of retribution” is even more bloodthirsty than the former president. Donald Trump’s self-proclaimed “secretary of retribution” is touting a wild plan to arrest politicians, police officers, and journalists he views as disloyal to the former president, according to a sweeping new investigation by Raw Story. Conservative political activist Ivan Raiklin claims to have assembled a “Deep State target list” that includes high-ranking Democrats and Republicans, U.S. Capitol Police officers, officials at the FBI and other intelligence agencies, witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trials, and journalists at The New York Times, CNN, The Washington Post, and other news outlets. Their supposed crime? Being Trump’s political enemies. And Raiklin views himself as justice incarnate. During one podcast appearance earlier this year, Raiklin said his nickname was the “deep state marauder, a.k.a. the mauler.” Raiklin’s plan for what to do with his list isn’t nearly as gruesome, but it is still terrifying. He intends to enlist right-wing sheriffs to carry out mass arrests, and in May, he declared his intention to arrange “livestreamed swatting raids.” … Those arrests would be carried out by “constitutional sheriffs,” specifically a right-wing anti-government group called the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. Those sheriffs would then deputize the 75,000 veterans Raiklin claims were dismissed from the military for refusing to comply with Covid-19 vaccine mandates, forming a rogue army intent on revenge. …, https://newrepublic.com/post/183652/trump-ally-exposed-horrific-hit-list-political-enemies

“The US is not a Democracy” is one of those untrue talking points that Republicans suddenly started saying circa 2014 when Putin started grooming Republicans with online influence campaigns that included this message . The US is a democracy….at least for now….look it up. A Republic is type of democracy.

Show me, please

No she did not rule it was illegal.

Here’s those peace-loving right wing nazis in their MAGA hats

It wasn’t illegal or political violence. Stealing the documents was illegal and the “raid” was a polite and professional search arranged with Trump security in advance with FBI agents discretely wearing civilian clothes so as not disturb the other guests.

Then Tucker realized he had the house key on him the whole time

Another opposite-of-reality post by the right. “Punch a Nazi” came about because the Right produced actual Nazis, one of whom killed a woman after ramming a crowd with his car. The claim that anyone to the right of Bernie Sander was labeled a nazi is also a made up lie. Right wingers clearly don’t believe rights are universal which is why the OP wants people jailed for insulting Trump And other influencers are consumed with “retribution” fantasies of rounding up the media, previously called for rounding up Muslims etc. A core principle of conservatism is social hierarchy where people at the top are to a certain degree “above the law” and social norms and people at the bottom are “below the law” and don’t deserve all the basic rights, which must be earned. Just look at their views they’ve regularly expressed about the death penalty, torture, civilian casualties, migrants, and so on

MAGA Enters Racist Meltdown Mode Over J.D. Vance’s Wife The far right is absolutely losing it over Usha Vance. The past week has seen an outpouring of hate from the far right over the wife of Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance. The unremarkable fact that Vance is married to Usha Vance, a woman of Indian heritage, has become a fixation for white nationalists online. Following Monday’s announcement of Vance as Trump’s running mate, white nationalist “groyper” Nick Fuentes seemed to enter a meltdown on his broadcast, saying, “What kind of man marries somebody that isn’t a Christian? What kind of man marries somebody named Usha? Clearly, he doesn’t value his racial identity, his heritage. Clearly, he doesn’t value his religion. He doesn’t marry a woman that professes Jesus Christ? What does that say about him?” Jaden McNeil, another white nationalist activist, posted a picture of Vance, his wife, and their newborn with the caption, “I’m sure this guy is going to be great on immigration.” Other prominent far-right accounts havesimilarly bemoaned Vance’s multiracial family, with replies awash in bigotry. “There is an obvious Indian coup taking place in the US right before our eyes,” whined far-right conspiracy theorist Stew Peters. …. https://newrepublic.com/post/183975/maga-racist-meltdown-jd-vance-wife-usha

Yeah a Republican gun nut whose phone search history revealed he was researching public appearances of other public figures including Biden, Merrick Garland and members of the British royal family in the days before the murder, in addition to researching his mental health. Sounds like he just wanted to kill a famous or powerful person.