Yzermandius19

Disapproval of impeachment is higher than Trump's approval rating, you are boosting his popularity with this idiotic strategy. That's not speculation, those are facts. The only way disapproval of impeachment can be higher than his approval rating is if more of those who don't approve of Trump don't want to see him impeached than those who approve and want to see him impeached. That's how math works, you're just in denial about basic math because it reveals that you are buying into a false narrative.

Neither will America, especially swing state voters. Partisan Democrats accepting it means nothing of consequence. A lot more people who disapprove of Trump don't want to see him impeached than people who approve of Trump and want to see him impeached. Disapproval of impeachment is higher than Trump's approval rating, you are boosting his popularity with this idiotic strategy.

You have no evidence he abused his power. He just used his power in way you don't like, that isn't evidence of abuse. Plenty of things you don't like are within the POTUS's power to do.

Yet more people disapprove of Trump than approve of impeachment, meaning the Dems are taking an unpopular stance, even by your Nate Silver weighted polls. Check the swing state polls, and see Trump's numbers getting better since impeachment. His approval has shot up since impeachment. Impeachment might play well in California and New York, but not in the Rust Belt. You simply see what you want to see, you want impeachment to hurt Trump, so you ignore all evidence to the contrary and even your cherry picked data doesn't show a growth in approval for impeachment, but the opposite trend.

Look at impeachment polls, it was most popular when the only evidence was selectively leaked testimony, after American's heard the testimony in it's entirety, approval for impeachment went down. All the swing state polls show removal from office underwater. You've been listening to wishful thinking Democrats and media, impeachment is very much playing in Trump's behavior, as his approval rating going up during the hearings shows, on top actual impeachment polls that have the public souring on the idea the more information they are privy to.

McConnell wants to stretch it out because it hurts Democrats to not wrap it up quickly, the more details people hear about impeachment, the more they turn on it. The GOP Senators want a trial that makes Democrats look as bad as possible and Trump to look as good as possible, just as House Democrats wanted hearings that make Trump and Republicans look as bad as possible. The few Never Trump Republicans that there are not running the show, and most of them are smarter than to give the Democrats a win by siding with them on this issue, your pipe dream of Republicans forcing McConnell to rig the Senate trial against Trump in accordance with the will of house democrats is a pipe dream.

McConnell doesn't need to listen to Pelosi about a Senate trial anymore than Pelosi needed to listen to McConnell about house impeachment hearings. Same-same. Giving one of them a pass while condemning the other for the exact same behavior is an obvious double standard.

That's up to the senate to decide, not house democrats. There are no rules that say House Democrats get to decide what goes on in the Senate for the impeachment trial, anymore than there is a rule that says Senate Republicans get to decide what goes on in the house for impeachment hearings. It's called separation of powers, that's the way the system is designed to work. Democrats have the house majority, so they get to run impeachment hearings in the house, Republicans have the senate majority, so they get to run the impeachment trial in the senate. Both are handled in a partisan manner depending on who is in charge, it is not something that only one of the parties is doing, anyone telling you otherwise is misinformed or lying. Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell are using the same strategy and only crying foul when the other side does so, that is reality. You giving Pelosi a pass and being pissed at McConnell for doing what Pelosi did is obvious partisan hackery.

The constitution does not call for a trial in the senate that is rigged to whims of House Democrats. GOP has the senate majority, deal with it. Rigging the hearings and rigging the senate trial is the same thing, both parties are doing it, it's not only republicans.

The GOP didn't get to call witnesses that the Dems didn't approve of. Now the shoe is on the other foot and the Dems don't get to call witnesses that the GOP doesn't approve of. That's how it works, Pelosi is crying foul that McConnell is going to use her own strategy against her, while acting like the Republicans are the only one's playing partisan games, when she just did the exact same thing she is complaining about them doing. The fact that you trust her interpretation of events without realizing this just shows how big a partisan hack you are. To Boges: If Dems do it, it's fine, but if the GOP do it, it's a crime.

Pelosi never gave Trump a fair hearing, so why would McConnell cave to Democrats demand for a rigged trial against Trump? That's the only kind of trial that would be fair to Democrats, if you think they'll accept anything less than rigged against Trump as a "fair trial", you're delusional. Democrats wouldn't know a fair trial if it smacked them in the face, they aren't asking for one, they are pretending to so rubes like you will believe them.

You have no evidence of a crime, so impeachment based on you not liking the POTUS is just political suicide.

Don't impeach Trump then. That'll show him.

No actually they aren't. Not a single person is arguing Trump is above the law, that is made up spin by Trump haters to mischaracterize what his supporters are saying to make themselves sound smarter.

The public hearing what Trump did has improved his approval rating, and House Dems having their names attached to it is hurting them, as it will hurt any Democrat Senators in swing states who vote for it in the Senate. Great job, Trump haters, commit political suicide and help Trump just to virtue signal how much you hate him, amazing strategy.

McConnell doesn't have to call anyone he doesn't want, just like Pelosi. Pelosi doesn't get to force him to call who she wants anymore than Mitch got to force her to call who he wants. That's not how it works, Pelosi doesn't run both the house and senate, maybe in your dream world she does, but not in reality.

And Trump didn't violate that law. The Dems just pretended he did, refused to include it in their articles of impeachment they felt is was so flimsy and you still believed them. No one is claiming Trump is above the law, that's a strawman.

The senate will acquit Trump, especially in the light of the Democrats rush job. If the Dems refuse to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate, then Trump wasn't even impeached, and it was an even bigger waste of time then it has looked like all along.

If you want to remove Trump for office, rushing ain't gonna get it done. If you got the smoking gun, just wait him out, unless you don't have the goods, which would explain the rushing. Either way the Democrats refusing to wait is not on Republicans, it's on Democrats. If the shoe was on the other foot, the Dems would do the same and take it to the SCOTUS and any lack of patience would be on the Republicans, not the Democrats.

They have to wait for the courts to verify that the process for calling those witnesses was correct, as they were legally challenging them on it. If they wanted Mulvaney to testify, they could have waited, they simply choose not to. Democrats are trying to pretend that's obstruction the Republicans aren't entitled to and it's an abuse of power, but it is their legal right to do so, and the Democrats are impatient because they know there is no smoking gun and stretching out impeachment would play against them, so they rushed it. All those witnesses you are complaining about not testifying is 100% on the Democrats for not waiting, so stop blaming Republicans for exercising what they are legally entitled to do, as if that is proof they have the goods on Trump, when if that was the case the Dems would have been more than happy to wait.

It was perfectly with his presidential power to do so. It is a witch hunt to pretend it is.

First hand accounts of hearsay is nothing. The Democrats didn't want to wait to allow those Trump didn't want to testify from testifying, I wonder why?

The evidence of that is that he hasn't started any new wars that aren't in American's interest to fight, unlike Obama with Libya and Syria. Trump isn't appeasing the Iranian's and he isn't giving Russia a pass in Ukraine like Obama either. It's not even close, Trump is head and shoulders above Obama when it come to foreign policy, at least to this point. It's still early only three years into his eight years in office, but so far so good.

He's doing a much better job than Obama, so either he knows more, or knowing more isn't as relevant as you think it is to job performance. Either way, it doesn't reflect well on Democrats.

Americans don't agree, especially Americans in swing states, they don't care and are against the witch hunt. It's political suicide, you thinking they have enough does not make it so. They didn't even charge him with a crime, that's how little the Democrats have on him. If they had proof of a crime as you suggest, they would have included it in the articles of impeachment, but they pussed out, because they know they had nothing. Sondland said Trump said no quid pro quo, Sondland not believing Trump is not proof that Trump was acting in the way Sondland imagined he was. Hearsay and speculation is not proof of a crime.