Yzermandius19

Diplomacy has been tried, Iran will not broker an honest deal, and trying to bribe them into accepting one simply accelerated the radicalization more so than deterrence ever has, it will not magically transform them into the good guys, that is naive wishful thinking that was the basis of Obama's Iran Deal in the first place. Appeasement has been tried, it failed, time to switch it up, not double down on fail and hope that treating the bad guys with kid gloves will make them be reasonable all of a sudden, that's not how it works. Soft on Iran is a complete fail.

Whoop Dee Doo Basil.

If the leadership of everywhere else is poorer, then how poor is American leadership really? You seem to be measuring leadership based on how one measures up to an ideal that will never be achieved in human governance, while glossing over how one measures up to the actual competition being faced, so as to be devoid of all context and result in faulty analysis. American leadership is poor, you say? Compared to who?

America certainly wishes Iran was a lot closer to perfect than it currently is, so you're wrong. Not what America wants at all.

All Iran does is piss on the US, most Americans don't even know where Iran is. The US is more than willing to meet them halfway, but Iran refuses to meet them even a quarter of the way, it's their way or the highway. It is Iran who is the problem, not America. I don't hear Americans chanting Death to Iran in the streets for decades, but I do hear Iranians chanting Death to America in the streets for decades. You are fooling yourself if you think Iran is acting in good faith here and America is the bad actor. America is not perfect, but Iran is a lot further from perfect than America.

Not really. They both suck. You just want to give Iran a pass because they don't like Saudi Arabia. You think the world is black and white, therefore if Saudi Arabia is bad and Iran is their enemy, then Iran must be good, but that's not how reality works. Just like your MIC is bad, therefore everyone who doesn't like the American MIC is good, not how it works. China and Russia aren't good because they oppose the American MIC, the world is not as black and white as you think.

9/11 hijackers are not representative of all the terrorists on the planet. Again, just because Saudi Arabia is bad doesn't mean Iran is good, you are viewing the world through too binary of a lens, and it's leading you to some faulty conclusions.

There are terrorists in both styles of clothing, Saudi Arabia does not have a monopoly on terrorism anymore than Iran does. It's not black or white, you don't have to pick either side. You keep trapping yourself between two bad choices thinking there are no alternatives, when there are plenty of alternatives.

That's better. Seek out the lulz, don't take everything hyper seriously. Now you're getting it. If you can't laugh at politics and it just makes you angry, then following politics will do you no good. You just need to chill, stop being so triggered by politicians you don't like, sit back and enjoy the lulz. Be the Dr. Strangelove of politics, learn to stop worrying and embrace the suck. If you take everything hyper seriously, that's not going to be any fun. Pro tip.

It can be bad for mental health, if you watch too much of it, in the wrong mind space. But if you use a little moderation and approach it from the right mind space, plenty of good can from it. You seem to be taking things a little too seriously, and not finding the humor in clearly amusing situations.

Trump has deterred Iran from bumbling into a war, and has done the citizens of Iran and their government a very big solid. Trump has started no new foreign wars, and the economy is booming, that's the best record to this point in a presidency in decades, and you are looking a gift horse in the mouth because you don't like how he uses twitter? What silliness.

I criticize him all the time. I just criticized his handling of NK in this very thread. You don't have to like Trump personally to approve of his job performance, nor do you have to agree with everything he has done to point out he's doing a good job. You seem to think that if you don't like him personally, that is grounds enough to throw him under the bus despite his job performance, but that just you having bizarre priorities, and lacking a backbone to stand up to those criticizing him for dubious reasons.

Again, twitter doesn't matter. He can brag about it wherever he wants, get your priorities straight. Actions speak louder than words, stop tunnel visioning on his twitter account, as if it's the most important issue when it isn't even in the top 1000. A president bragging about something on twitter does not a bad POTUS make, if that is your best anti-Trump material, you should love the man.

He wasn't reckless, he was reinstating deterrence, which is the opposite of reckless. You made up your mind based on the idea that there is only appeasement or war, with no middle ground, when there is tons of middle ground. Trump has not started any foreign wars, you are simply using stupid TDS fueled mind reading to make up your mind.

That just makes you weak. There is plenty to defend, his record for instance. Personality is in the eye of the beholder, and not relevant grounds to throw Trump under the bus over when his performance has been rock solid thus far. Grow a backbone, and stop focusing on words instead of actions, personality over job performance. Trump is a hired gun, his personality is irrelevant, what he gets done is relevant. You are using the wrong goalposts. It's okay to not like Trump personally and still approve of the job he's doing, especially when graded against his competition.

Hamilton, Ontario. As if my location or birthplace makes any difference in this conversation whatsoever, you are simply hoping I was American, so you can write off my entire argument as coming from an American without having to think about it. That's how strong your America Derangement Syndrome is, don't snow. Notice how you ignore my point about his record being the best in decades, and all you can do is change the subject. Trying to deflect from your lame Trump Hater justifications that are entirely personality based, with irrelevant questions about birthplace, while dodging relevant questions about job performance.

The economy is booming, he has started no foreign wars. That is a better record than any POTUS in decades, clearly you are too distracted by his personality rubbing you the wrong way to properly judge job performance, not unlike the media or the Democrats. The only one unhinged here are those with TDS, not Trump, y'all are projecting your being unhinged on him.

Politicians shouldn't be role-models and a politician not being a role model does not a bad POTUS make. Job Performance is infinitely more important than whether their personality rubs you the right way or not. Personality is irrelevant, Job Performance is relevant.

Obnoxious behavior trumps actually doing a good job in office? Your priorities are severely misplaced, actions speak louder than words, if the best criticism you have of Trump is you don't like his choice of words on twitter, he must be doing a great job. Talk about an asinine reason to be against a POTUS, this is why the TDS crowd isn't taken seriously, these are their best criticisms and they are so weak, it's pathetic.

That's because you are easily swayed by one-dimensional appeasement monkey's, even though Trump has delivered on not getting entangled with foreign wars more than any POTUS in decades. Least warmongerish POTUS in decades is still not good enough for pacifists though, typical. Acting like foreign policy is a weakness of Trump's is laughable.

For all the good that does.

With no chance of winning the nomination. Whoop Dee Doo Basil.

Yet Donald Trump is doing a much better job than Doug Ford, America Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug.

You're on the wrong side of history, Trump Derangement Syndrome will be looked down upon with much more scorn than support of the POTUS. Trump's popularity will only increase after he leaves office after another term, you just wish that wasn't the case.

Trump will win because Joe Biden has already moved too far to the left, he has abandoned the center to Trump, just to ensure he wins the nomination. Biden doesn't stand a chance, and many on the far left are Bernie or Bust and won't vote for Biden, just like they didn't vote for Hillary. Trump hasn't even started on Dems yet, once they have one nominee, he will focus fire and destroy them like he has destroyed all his other political opponents. Things will get worse for the Democrats as the election approaches, not better.