Dougie93

I don't dislike the CH-148 in the end, Canada wastes so much money, the procurement disaster of CH-148 is a mere drop in the bucket I'm glad the troops at Shearwater & Pat Bay got something to replace the Sea King whatever, it's the least of Canada's problems at this point

how do you get to 36 ? Canada only ordered 28 Cyclones moreover, the issue is not how many Canada has but how expensive they are to operate, when there are only 27 of them in the world you don't even understand logistics economies of scale ? for a supposed all knowing procurement god like you, those are pretty glaring mistakes

what is the American game ? Jean Chretien demanded that the Sea King replacement not be the AW101 which he cancelled in a political stunt but the CF wanted a larger aircraft than SH-60, something like the Sea King which AW101 was made to replace but other than AW101, such a helicopter did not exist so the Americans pitched a ground up development of a totally new platform, derived from the MH-92 due to political interference by the corrupt & inept political class, DND didn't really have any other option how is that the America's fault ? quite sure if the Pentagon was consulted they would have said, "don't be dumb, Canada, just buy from our SH-60 active production line" but since Canada insisted, the Americans launched into a full scale development program just for 28 helicopters whatever Canada, it's your money, America is not in charge of how you spend it

the BRU-14 bomb rack is the same bomb rack used by SH-60, which can launch NSM the NSM only weighs 300 lbs more than a Mk.46 so why the aircraft can't lift the extra weight is not clear surely the aircraft has more margin than 300 lbs above ASW take off weight

the terms of DND procurement are deliberately limited because the bureaucrats are seeking to constrain the budget so those monies can be plundered for other imperatives, mostly vote buying by government handouts but it's still an American helicopter, which the Americans built with the full spectrum of capabilities therein if the RCN needs to launch anti ship missiles from CH-148, that can be done the hardpoint & avionics are compatible, the radar is actually state of the art for SuW the problem with the CH-148 is really just economies of scale as it is an orphaned fleet, which due to the development challenges, never sold since the tragic loss of Stalker Two Two, there are only 27 of them in the world so it's going to be a logistics burden, since the customized parts are not widely available

the road to Calvary will keep the dark at bay the Light over Damascus you dive like an avenging angel into the darkness to rescue lost souls in the pagan wilderness of thorns you save yourself, then another, then another, one at a time not by preaching nor bible thumping per se but by example you find the salt of the earth people wandering in distress and you treat them well, with love, care & respect, as the sacred individuals whom they are courage is contagious

indeed what the elites slyly determined was that there was a new religion, a satanic pagan cult rising at the margins so they jumped on board and started amplifying it knowing full well that the general population would find it to be obviously absurd but that's how totalitarianism works you impose the absurd, as a loyalty test, to determine who are the probable dissenters then you impose draconian measures upon any who dissent in the slightest to send a message to the rest not to dare

well since 2008, the elites were staving off the Occupy Wall Street revolt by handing out newly printed fiat currency but this inflation of the money supply is inflation so now that is starting wreck things in of itself so the parallel track has always been Woke when the elites can no longer keep the population docile by money printing they switch to divide and conquer Identity Politics

I simply do the math in that there is four times as much debt as there is productivity and the prices of everything are exponentially inflated therein a bubble so big that it actually dwarfs the Roaring Twenties several times over then I watch what the elites are doing, how they are behaving then I logically extrapolate from there

once I noticed, years ago, that Google is filtered to only give government approved & establishment media responses I stopped using it for any sort of general search its still useful if I know exactly what I'm searching for but not for any kind of general searches, which are obviously filtered ideologically

I would use the word ominous because when you see supposedly "liberal" governments trying to sneak this sort of extreme legislation past a naive public it shows that they are very afraid they clearly think something very bad is going to happen, which will make the public into a dire threat to them

only the Russian SSBN's are designed to pop up out of the ice and shoot from the surface American SSBN's have to hover at launch depth and shoot from open waters so the more likely launch points for an American counterforce would be in open waters from the Norwegian Sea just south of the North Cape from the Sea of Japan, just off Sakhalin Island the American SSBN's will be shooting for Central Asia those are the most distant ICBM launch sites which would require Trident II to strike preemptively the Russians on the other hand are very likely to approach by stealth to shoot from Canadian waters the shortest possible distance to the Minuteman III's on the Great Plains in order to execute a preemptive counterforce strike you have to shoot your SLBM's on a depressed trajectory from as close as posssible to shorten their flight times from 30 minutes, down to inside of 10 minutes even with the SBIRS & BMEWS early warning systems a flight time of less than ten minutes would result in almost no time for the National Command Authority to react once the information actually reached the POTUS & SECDEF up the chain of command now there is survivable second strike by the SSBN's in the countervalue deterrent role so the other half of a counterforce, is that you have to send you attack submarines to find them you have to track the enemy SSBN's right from their bases and stay on them at all times so you can sink them with torpedoes when they try to launch a retaliation this is why the Russians hide their SSBN's up under the ice they know the American SSN's are probably right behind them so they are trying to shake those tails in the noise generated by the endlessly cracking ice you won't easily be able to find a Russian SSBN once he is already under the ice so the American SSNs go right into the Barents Sea and off Kamchatka where they wait for the Russian Boomers to come out of their bases at Zapadnaya Litsa on the Kola Peninsula, and Kamchatka Rybachiy on the Pacific then the Americans follow the Russian SSBN's for the entire patrol as that's the only way to stay on top of them to be "up in the saddle" in their baffles if they ever go into a launch mode if the American SSN loses contact with the Russian SSBN that will incite a National Command Authority alert they would probably go to DEFCON 4 just for that it would be all hands on deck to try to find this Russian Boomer which got away this the silent war in progress, both sides jockeying for position, all day every day they never know if/when the Balloon might go up so nuclear submarines tasked to the National Command Authority are on a war footing at all times in this sense, the nuclear war is in progress at all times because these operations are all part of that war since if the missiles are launched at DEFCON 1 that's not the beginning of the war, that's the final phase

Canada literally imposing a Pre-Crime regime but see how this is the downfall of our civilization in progress therein as that is so extreme and in contravention of liberal democracy that it could only be part of a catastrophe at the level of societal collapse itself not going to happen we could only reach this point now, if the catastrophe had already happened to wit, this is not the bomb, this is the fallout from the bomb having already gone off I would suggest that the bomb went off in the 2008 Global Financial Crisis that was when the elites blew the world up we are simply experiencing the wake of it now the consequences of the elites losing all legitimacy, yet still clinging to power by draconian tyranny they obviously realize that things are going to get much worse at some point inciting widespread revolt so they are preparing their legislative bunkers in preparation for if you talk to the average Joe on the street they will likely say that they hate Trudeau or what have you but they still don't grasp how dire the situation is that the entire economy is a massively inflated debt bubble on an unprecedented scale which will inevitably have to burst in the not too distant future resulting in a deflationary spiral which will exceed the scale of the Great Depression the elites however, are quite obviously aware that the spiral has already begun so they are already laying the groundwork to try to deflect the reaction unto various scapegoats "Online Harms" and "Hate Speech" are really just euphemisms for "dissenting against the elites" when the sh*t truly hits the fan, in the next global financial crisis and the middle class starts ending up bankrupt and homeless in the streets en masse the powers that be will attempt to shut the internet down they will start locking people out, Chinese Communist style, rendering us into internal exile

MAD was not in effect in 1962 the Soviets did not have the capability to destroy the CONUS then at best they could have hit a few dozen targets only America was in position to destroy the Soviet Union, with 800 B-52's holding at failsafe which is why the Soviets backed down which is the only thing that saved us the Soviets then vowed to never let that happen again so they diverted the bulk of their resources to their navy introducing the Delta class SSBN in the 70's then the Typhoon class SSBN in the 80's only then were the Soviets in a position to destroy the CONUS from the protected bastion under the ice in the Arctic, with MIRV'd SLBM's

well I would actually assert that a theatre thermonuclear war is the preferable option tactical nuclear weapons being comparatively survivable, particularly in terms of minimized fallout in fact a short theatre themonuclear war would be preferable to a prolonged conventional war I don't look to Robert McNamara for the solution rather it was Curtis LeMay who got it right the LeMay theory being that the shorter and more terrible the war, the better as the longer a war lasts, the more people are killed maximum violence is decisive, and decision is the only thing that will end a war

well bear in mind that MAD is not a natural law it's just a theory, invented by Robert Strange McNamara and I would suggest that it was a rather Utopian solution which was doomed to fail from the start furthermore, I would assert that the general public simply does not understand the situation governments have convinced the population that MAD is in effect, so there's nothing to worry about, no need to panic but the average person really doesn't grasp the difference between counterforce & countervalue the average person views it as a binary either you are at DEFCON 5, or you are annihilated at DEFCON 1 in an massive interpolar exchange the thought that there are many orders of thermonuclear war, which are very plausible at the theatre level that you could have a thermonuclear war, and the sun would still come up the next day, in an ongoing conflict doesn't really occur to them

but the BRU-14 hardpoint is none the less capable of launching anti ship missiles the AN/APS-143B radar on the CH-148 can track the surface target the integrated US Navy databus allows the anti ship missile to be programmed therein then the CH-148 simply releases the weapon, then it guides itself to the target and executes the attack

fill your boots

except I am a Burkean counterrevolutionary conservative in that Edmund Burke asserted that while revolutions might become inevitable they none the less resulted in catastrophe to wit, if the status quo was overthrown, that would likely result in more totalitarianism not less in fact, the elites seem to be deliberately provoking these ends, in order to consolidate their impunity furthermore, I am bound by solemn oath taken in the face of God Himself beneath the laid up Colours with my hand on the King James Bible to defend and uphold the British Crown in North America come what may, unto to death as necessary so I cannot rise against the Westminster Parliament under any circumstances all I can do is sing of the Good News and hope that there are still Loyalists left in this land whom are willing to go into harms way to engage in passive non violent resistance, by Section 2 of the Charter of Rights & Freedoms holding the cross high, until the usurpers cut us down in our tracks nec aspera terrent : no fears on earth

all I said was that the BRU-14 hardpoint is a standard US Navy bomb rack which is capable of launching all sorts of ordinance beyond torpedoes, to include anti ship missiles then that set you off for some reason, inciting you to go on a multi page tirade thread jacking

I honestly find it to be amusing you're a throwback, literally a cliche the classic Reg Force REMF who ceaselessly tirades against "Militia Maggots" it's a sign of Reg Force weakness, generally only encountered in the non combat arms but I'm nostalgic for it

not at all your self inflicted provocation does not bother me if you are want to obsessively hijack threads to talk about me I'm happy to engage with that while carrying on other conversations at the same time

in internet forum parlance, you are what is called a "hater/stalker" that's a person who chases another member around a forum ceaselessly hijacking threads to pursue some sort of personal vendetta it becomes obsessive, wherein the hater/stalker can't even stop themselves from going off on seething tirades it becomes like a mantra, wherein the hater/stalker repeats themselves over & over, seemingly involuntarily

but the ruling elites simply ignore the constitution and they appoint cronies to the judiciary, who will rubber stamp any legislation no matter how ludicrous and it doesn't matter who you vote for, because the opposition is not opposed to massive government overreach it's two factions of the same elite class, both inclined to abridge the constitution, just for differing imperatives the Conservatives have their own version of the Online Harms Bill they don't oppose Bill 23 in theory, they simply want to amend it slightly at the margins

you're the one who keeps hijacking the thread I was talking to Beaverfeaver on topic then you diverted the thread into talking about me exclusively