Dougie93

I predict that once Trump goes, it all collapses into infighting again, I know MAGA, and the only thing they agree upon is Trump it's a cult of the personality, I expect that America will come storming back to being the World Police in the not too distant future, historically, that's how it always goes, America attempts to withdrawal into isolationism, then that incites adversaries to make their moves, which results in America getting dragged back in all over again

I'm simply going by your assessment of the MAGA worldview becoming America's permanent doctrine, if that's the case, there will be no peaceful coexistence, I know MAGA, and they truly despise leftist socialist Canada, again, to MAGA, you're basically Cuba North hence why Trump is playing to his base this way,

bad news for Sweden ; the Gripen is powered by an American engine, the GE F414

well it's grim for Canada indeed then, because becoming America's permanent enemy is a dark future, might as well forget about fighter jets altogether if that's the case, since you won't be able to afford them if you're planning on being America's permanent enemy then you should go fully asymmetrical, start building your own drones like the Ukrainians as your new model air force. if you're America's enemy, then there is no more reason to project power overseas, instead you would need a large conscript territorial defence force, America could easily destroy any conventional forces like jets & ships, so don't waste money on those how you would trade internationally against an American naval blockade ; not sure, that's a tough one since neither Europe nor China could actually save you from across the oceans suffice to say, you might be doing Trumps work for him as America's enemy, when large numbers of Canadians start to flee to America as economic refugees I would suspect that Canada as America's permanent enemy is the end of Canada by default ultimately you're better off being the 51st state than you are being giant frozen Cuba

well again, to unwind Canada from American defence is a generational project which would take decades, meanwhile American policy could change radically in the opposite direction in 2029,

except Canada would end up having to come back cap in hand to order them again at some future date, each time Canada cancels then reverses itself, the price goes up significantly ; defence specific inflation also factor in the cancellation penalty in the contract at this point, add that to the price Canada constantly cancelling and then having to reorder ; same old same old

I'm not advocating, simply pointing out that a massive shift is not realistic within the time frame of Trump, so I doubt the political class in Canada is going to make a significant shift, rather they will simply wait Trump out by the time F-35's start arriving in Cold Lake in significant numbers, Trump will be out of office

that doesn't change the fact that Canada made itself reliant upon America for Canada's defence, long ago there's no easy way out now, Canada doesn't have a Plan B

again, it's like an iPhone ; entirely software driven there's no "kill switch" other than you have to receive continuous software updates from Lockheed Martin, and that's not like once a year, more like once a week, for example the F-35 relies on an Automated Logistics Information System ( ALIS ) the jet is constantly communicating with Lockheed Martin in order to keep it systems working, if you cut the ALIS off from LockMart, the jet just shuts itself down hacking the jet wouldn't make any difference, because again, its all in the Cloud these days LockMart has a network of servers to run the jets called ODIN you can't access that network from the jet itself, just like you can't hack Apple's Cloud from your phone perhaps CSE could target Lockheed Martin with cyberwarfare, but what would be the point ? never mind that the NSA would retaliate in ways which could render Canada itself into a disaster

Trump is a reality TV star all he cares about is conflict and associated headlines, he will turn on a dime in the opposite direction whenever it suits him, there is no policy objective other than controversy

breaking the encryption on the jet itself is useless, it's all cloud computing now, run centrally from America ; Operational Data Integrated Network ( ODIN ) it's like an iPhone from Apple, if you don't get every single software update, the plane shuts down beyond the software tho, how would you even supply the parts for the jet ? you might as well try to invent your own stealth fighter at that point, which is what China did Lockheed Martin considered all of this beforehand, the F-35 is perfectly constructed to prevent countries from escaping from American control that's literally the whole point of F-35 from the beginning ; market dominance meanwhile you are crowing like Canada is highly capable, when Canada couldn't organize a gangbang in a whorehouse, Canada is utterly pathetic when it comes to state capacity, the most feeble in the world comparatively

the F-35 code is encrypted to prevent that very outcome, if the Chinese could hack it, they would have by now, furthermore, hacking it doesn't give you the necessary software updates in terms of what you should be scared of, that would be the Americans hacking you, there's lots of things the NSA could shut off in Canada at the flick of a switch if they wanted to, anything Canada does to attack America, that would come back upon you many times over you don't think the NSA & CIA has plans for what to do if Canada goes rogue ? it's not like America trusts Canada to be a reliable partner

okay, well you'll have to cancel the Type 26 Destroyers already in production because those are all reliant upon Lockheed Martin, you'll have to replace all the LAV's in the Canadian Army, because those are General Dynamics the Chinooks have to go, those are Boeing, the Cyclone helicopters for the navy too, those are LockMart the Griffon helicopters are American too ; Bell Textron C-17 Globemaster & C-130 Super Hercules, your entire airlift fleet has to go, $5 billion worth practically every missile system Canada operates, air & sea, is made by Raytheon the Boeing CF-18's are no more free from American control than the F-35 it's not just software, all this American equipment is totally reliant upon American defense contractor supply chains and anything which contains any American military tech at all is subject to American ITAR restrictions once you drill down on how much American tech the CAF relies upon, you're pretty much talking about replacing everything, at the cost of hundreds of billions, taking decades to implement are Canadians prepared to increase the defence budget to 5% GDP therein ? Yeah, okay, sure doesn't matter how butt hurt you are, you outsourced your defence to the Americans decades ago and now they've got you by the balls therein, because there is no affordable quick fix

Trump will be long gone by the time Canada made any progress in that direction, far more likely that the Canadian political class will simply try to wait Trump out

naive Canadians are now confronted by the fact that they outsourced their defence to America long ago, turning that ship around in short order just ain't going to happen, no matter how butt hurt they are

F-35 is hardly the only platform for Canada which the Americans control, most of Canada's kit and all of Canada's logistics are totally reliant upon the Pentagon, extricating Canada from American control would be a generational project lasting decades

a three passport holding British - Irish - Canadian Citoyen de Monde, the only Canadian politician whom represents my identitarian camp actually, God save Ireland, God save the King,

not all blacks sided with the Kremlin, the Zulus in fact sided with the Afrikaaners

bloody Bolsheviks, die in a fire of your own making, when them Yankees overrun you, "how are you, neutral Johnny Bull ? We'll settle next with you . . . "

it's not a realistic assessment of how the civil war would play out, it wouldn't be a clean fight, Canadians v. Americans, since Canada is a giant Ulster, it would be American backed Republican Fenians fighting the Loyalist Guardians of Confederation, unlikely that there would be any American boots on the ground therein, other than the CIA

never mind Rhodes scholarship at Oxbridge ? if you say so, squire

as a Loyalist & Royalist, I am of course not bound to the government nor the public therein, none the less, Washington has now invoked an existential threat to the British Crown in North America, thus my Colonel-in-Chief ; Elizabeth Windsor ; summons me to a war footing, even from beyond the grave, mercenaries for the sovereign. the regiment is our fatherland, stand by for the forlorn hope,

not in Canada, the postmodern Neomarxist kooks in charge here ; despise the Union Jack "White Supremacist Settler Colonial Genocide !"

yet even during this sudden onset of reactionary Anti-Americanism dressed up as patriotism, nobody in Canada is invoking any of that, it is not that Confederation which the populace is rising to defend, rather they are simply clinging desperately to the postmodern Neoliberal Globalist order, Samuel de Champlain ? Most Canadians now have never heard of him

don't brame me, roundeye I vote by Westminster Parliamentary Supremacy, founded by William Prince of Orange in 1690, thus I don't vote for party, nor leader, only for an MP to represent me, but all the parties are running the usual college educated professional managerial class twits, and those people are completely useless to me, so even when I vote, I spoil my ballot by writing in "Monarchist League of Canada" stranger in my own land now, just like the First Nations