
Zeitgeist
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You’re way off. There’s a high burden of justification for the suspension of Charter rights — thankfully. You don’t seem to understand that we’ve been in a fluid situation. I’ve said before that prior to widespread vaccination during the waves of infection by harsher variants there was a much better case to make for suspending Charter rights than there is today. Even New York State, the jurisdiction hardest hit in the pandemic, is lifting indoor mask mandates. At this stage of the game vaccine mandates are inappropriate and unconstitutional for sure.
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Mandates and restrictions are hurting a lot more people to a greater extent. This can all be resolved if government responds to the concerns. Instead they vilify legitimate concerns then hide.
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Stop saying something is something that it isn’t. No kids or elderly are being beaten up. The more you shout, “The sky is falling”, the less credibility you have.
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Trudeau loses because he condemned the convoy from the get-go, alienated the industry that kept our economy afloat through the scariest periods of the pandemic, and now that neither the threat of the virus can justify the mandates nor will the public’s patience endure them, Trudeau is refusing to shift positions. Basically he will be associated with maintaining oppressive policies. Good, let him wear it. The backlash is just beginning.
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Don’t forget the flooding that will ensue due to the sudden rise in global temperatures caused by truck exhaust.
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Who knew that Trudeau’s vaccine mandates would be bad for air quality?
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This is a peaceful family affair. If you think it should be something ugly that’s your problem.
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Ford is still clinging to vaccine passports, so he doesn’t get a pass on Canada’s oppression problem. He hasn’t steered clear of race-obsessed training and inquisitions. He seems like a reasonable middle of the road sort of guy. On the whole he seems pretty caring and decent, which will probably buoy him through another election win. If he builds the Ontario Line, gets some other decent infrastructure projects underway, drops the license plate stickers, and most importantly, ends these pandemic measures soon, that’s not a bad record. He’s been quite present throughout the pandemic.
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If it gets violent it won’t be because of the truckers. Are you hoping the RCMP will crack some skulls?
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I’ve worked closely with child protection services and can tell you that removing children from parents, especially when it’s a warm family where all the child’s needs are addressed, is not something they pursue. It means finding a stranger foster parent or relative to provide the care. If kids start getting taken from these parents, you will see a widely publicized “Sixties Scoop” revisited. Many truckers have native blood. This would not end well.
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You can see multiple videos of what’s going on through YouTube. These are primary sources without the sneering incendiary narration of big media. It doesn’t matter. Your mind is closed.
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Is Trudeau the most unCanadian Prime Minister ever?
Zeitgeist replied to West's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
I love Canada strong and free. If we’re going to remain under totalitarian controls like vaccine passports and state-influenced media, then I’d rather see Confederation unravel. -
It’s privileged hypochondriacs holding everyone else back. Eyeball and Blackbird live in fear. Let them. It won’t change no matter how many freedoms are stripped away from everyone. Eliminating mandates and restrictions won’t please some people because freedom has always scared some people, even though life is never without risk. This country just isn’t very free. Our truckers and the Americans are trying to help restore freedoms that some of our own people don’t want. It’s sad and sick. There will always be variants and there’s no acceptable level of risk for these people. Trudeau panders to them and the entire country suffers because of it.
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And what the science supports is inconclusive. Values and science are different things and both are important to humans. We’ve been living inhumanely. It has to stop now.
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No you don’t get more than two years of our lives “to keep the hospitals from getting overwhelmed”. My kids are only with me a short time and so are my parents. We’re all triple vaccinated and have followed the rules. Two Christmases canceled. We can’t get this time back. The mental health mess, job losses, social deficits, and academic gaps are enormous. You’re going to have to accept people living freely again, unmasked and living life without having to show passports to eat a meal. We’re not buying into the fear anymore. If you’re worried about Omicron, cover up and keep a distance. You have many protections available to you. You don’t get to suspend our Charter freedoms indefinitely for dubious reasons.
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What’s clear is that the majority of the population wants pandemic “emergency measures” lifted, there’s a strong protest movement demanding accountability on the government’s plan to lift the measures (if one exists), and the Prime Minister refuses to meet with the protest leaders or provide reasons for the continued suspension of Charter rights. His position is a losing one. Public frustration with mandates and restrictions is boiling over. The opposition is finally getting its act together. Canadians can see Trudeau’s evasions and vilification of protesters who have legitimate concerns. This won’t fade away into more quiet compliance through more attempts to put down the protests and quell public sentiment. The wisest move for Trudeau is to drop the arrogance and pride and do the right thing. Vaccine mandates and passports are anathema to a free society. To take away constitutional rights and give some of them back to those who accept and provide proof of adopting a government-mandated health program is unacceptable in a so-called free country. The reduction of freedoms for the unvaccinated as well as the public’s government-condoned shaming of the unvaccinated is oppressive. Vaccine passports are oppressive and I’m ashamed that Canada has them. This will be remembered as a dark period in our history, though it could get darker. We should thank the truckers for putting themselves on the line to defend our constitutional rights. End vaccine passports and mandates immediately across Canada. They contravene our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Canada is a freedom laggard now. Restrictions must also be lifted, including mandatory masking, as soon as possible, as they are in most US states, Great Britain, and a growing number of European countries. I’m sure that once the mandates go, so will the truckers, of their own free will.
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Where are most people getting their accounts of the protests? How are those accounts editorialized?
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Peace, order, and responsible government.
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Candace Bergen The New CPC Leader
Zeitgeist replied to WestCanMan's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
If you think most Canadians won’t fight for freedom and Treebeard asks if most Canadians agree with your stance on the importance of freedom, he’s merely proving your point. I hear you. I hope it’s not true that most Canadians don’t care about freedom, but I have my doubts. I’m losing interest in Canada. I sometimes think the people are becoming sucky. It’s all about getting handouts and being micromanaged like irresponsible babies. If Trudeau succeeds in maintaining mandates, that’s all the proof we need. When people who are willing to sacrifice income to defend freedom are characterized as scary extremists, we’ve lost the plot as a society. If we won’t defend the Constitution, what do Canadians stand for and what’s the value of Canada? Might as well move to the US or Britain where freedom is valued. -
Most people watch one of two Canadian news broadcasts later at night: CTV News and CBC news. Do you think that those accounts of the convoy have been fair? I don’t. It’s Pravda and Izvestia. Of course government funding of our major broadcasters has no influence on content…Unicorns and rainbows for everyone.