blackbird

Such claims may not be credible. There has to be proof, not just claims. If the flood happened between 4000 and 4500 years ago, then possibly some descendants dispersed to China after that, but where is the proof?

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I'm just reading a new book, History of the World. It goes back 2,000 years to talk about the history of China, but there is nothing mentioned three or four thousand years ago about China. Nobody knows anything about a history that old for China.

I don't think anyone knows exactly when. But I think I read an estimate of 4,500 years ago.

It's interesting the God scattered everyone at the tower of Babel (which I think was in modern day Iraq) and confounded their languages so they couldn't speak the same language. They scattered to different corners of the earth and spoke different languages.

I don't believe the claims that they go back 6,000 years. They are descendents of Adam and Eve as well as everyone on earth.

I don't have details on that. I believe Prof Stott believes the earth is the centre. It's called geocentricity. I don't necessarily believe that. That is only a theory I think. Possibly only a small number of people believe that. I don't really know the arguments in favour of it.

Their not alone in claiming antiquity. Some natives in B.C. claim that they go back 10 or 15 thousand years I think.

What for? Creation scientists and others don't accept the old earth concept anyway.

Could also have been some more distant relatives or friends living in his house.

Personally I don't think there were human bones and tools etc older than 6000 years in existence. Some of those so-called pre-historic men were found to be fake. Such as the so-called Piltdown man. What some paleontologist have apparently done is find a tooth or such and from that draw a jaw, then the rest of the skull and create a pre-historic man. Then later people found out the tooth was actually from an ape. That sort of thing.

I just looked it up. It says in Genesis ch7 vs1 "And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark" So who knows how many people were in his house. Could have been a number of couples (sons, daughters and their spouses)

What if he brought a son with a wife on board the ark? I see what you mean. Could be that's the way it had to be. Those were unique times, but all the details of who was taken on the ark perhaps are not mentioned. I don't know.

I believe the fossils were either formed since creation, perhaps as a result of the flood OR the fossils were created to be in the earth at the time of creation.

God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth. It had to happen somehow.

Maybe Adam and Eve had more children than are listed in the Bible. Not sure every detail is mentioned.

Good point. I would have to go and read that part. Maybe Noah brought his family on the ark and could it have included a son-in-law or daughter-in-law?

Yes there may have been some close family connections with Adam and Eve's children in order to start the human race. But perhaps that was how it happened.

From what I have heard by a slide-show presentation by Prof Philip Stott, the fossil record is somewhat confused and many missing pieces.

Well, I don't see why dinasaurs couldn't have lived a few thousand years ago. Maybe they did. I don't believe in neanderthal man or than man came from apes.

That's up to you. I am not trying to impress the world or non-believers. As I said believing in the Bible will not get you into favour with the world. You can't have it both ways. The science subjects you mention are still perfectly legitimate. Christian scientists believe those subjects. But just have a problem with old earth age and evolution.

The creation discussion re fossils is somewhat involved. That website I gave goes into aspects of it. You may find more related subjects there. It seems to be saying that the Biblical flood called Noah's flood in Genesis was a catostrophic event which caused the fossils to be deposited as they are now. The website goes into some of that. The age of the earth is only a few thousand years so whether it was created with the fossils already in it at the time of creation or whether they were created by the flood I don't know.

Yes, it is a departure from "normal" whatever normal is. As the Bible says spiritual things are foolishness to the world. God has chosen the foolish things to confound the wise. The wisdom of the world is foolishness to God. If you would rather be "normal" and be a part of the world system which is doomed, that's up to you. If you want to be part of God's family in the heavenly, kingdom then you have to have spiritual eyes and accept the Bible as the truth from God.

This website gives some pretty good explanations about that: http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm

Doesn't matter to me if you think what I believe is an aberration. Go ahead and believe that. If you don't want to believe in the supernatural, that's up to you. You have some opinions I agree with but not in this subject.