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  1. I don't agree with everything Harper did or didn't do, but he is someone who is already well-known and liked by many Canadians. I don't think O'Toole could necessarily beat Trudeau. I think Harper may have a better chance to win than anyone else I know of and any conservative who could beat Trudeau, I would consider supporting. One of his faults was he never did anything about abortion. Canada is one of the few countries in the world which allows unlimited abortion, which is a very great evil. I don't see any benefit to society with marijuana. If there was another leader who opposed globalism, opposed the U.N., supported reducing immigration greatly, and took a tougher stand on China, I would consider supporting that person. But I don't see anyone. We are stuck in the mud.
  2. Those verses you quoted to try to support the argument that a country must take the rest of the world in and sacrifice their own country do not support that at all. The verses have absolutely nothing to do with the country's immigration system or policies. The verses are speaking to individual believer's and on how they treat other individuals, not some kind global Communism or Socialism. You are pulling verses out of context to try to support your anti nation, anti border twisted ideas. Every country in the world has borders and an immigration system whereby any would-be immigrants must apply and be screened before they are admitted in order to protect their own country from criminals, thugs, and people with hostile intent or pagan ideas that would destroy or harm their own country. You are incapable of living a moral and ethical life because you are a fallen sinner with a corrupt nature just like everyone else. You only pretend that it is possible. The world has proven with constant wars, crime, corruption, and hostile behavior that it is impossible. The principles taught in the Bible can help but are not accepted by most people. We don't need more immigrants who are hostile to western Judeo-Christian principles and civilization to begin with.
  3. "Who is the greatest military threat to Canada? Is it China? Is it Al Qaeda, ISIS or the Taliban? Or maybe it’s Russia? Well, according to Justin Trudeau and his defence minister, Harjit Sajjan, it’s us: Rebel News." "Justin Trudeau hired a U.S. defence contractor to spy on Rebel News" Things you will never be told by CBC or CTV. Cyberintelligence Operation Donation - Rebel News
  4. Your "facts" conveniently ignore the fact Trudeau has run a corrupt, unethical government since he was elected in 2015. You ignore the fact every government we have had has had accusations of unethical or corrupt behavior. The Liberals probably had the biggest scandal in decades when they ran the Sponsorship Scandal for years in the 1990s and early 2000s until it was exposed and all the witnesses told the gruesome details in the Gomery Commission (public enquiry) that went on for weeks and some people went to jail. Taxpayers never got their money back. They gave away millions of dollars of taxpayer money to their friends. Find anything that Harper did that even comes close to the Sponsorship Scandal. You probably don't know anything about this because you weren't even here, but come over here later and tell us our Conservative government was corrupt. Obviously you don't know what you are talking about or if you do know the facts, you are carefully ignoring the corruption of the Liberals. Trudeau was the first PM to have been found guilty of three violations of the Ethics regulations. Trudeau was going to give almost a billion dollars of taxpayer money to his friends in the WE charity to distribute grants to students, until it was exposed that his relatives had been paid by them. Trudeau was going to give all this money away while Canada is nearly 400 billion dollars in debt.
  5. You are correct about a lot of things. Harper did nothing to get rid of liberal Socialism. But he is somewhat better than Trudeau and Liberals which is the only reason I would vote for him. I am simply speaking from the view of who is around that could have a chance of beating Trudeau and getting rid of the Liberals. There is no other party that has enough strength or support to beat the Liberals. That is the problem we are in. I agree with you that it would be nice if there was some real alternative to Liberals and the existing Conservative party, but Canadians are in a sad state and can't seem to get it together to change things.
  6. The first thing Trudeau did was open the borders to the world and bring in 60 or 70 thousand Muslim refugees to further destroy our western Judeo-Christian culture and invite illegal migrants to walk in across that border, which they did by the tens of thousands and get on the dole and all the benefits. Nothing refreshing about that, unless you are one of them, which you probably are.
  7. Not a chance. You must be smoking something strong. You forget Harper was PM for about nine years and was quite popular. Trudeau won a majority in 2015 because of Trudeaumania, but the glow has worn off. Trudeau has a record number of ethics violations and scandals and can't be trusted. He has failed Canada, Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig because of his love for Communist China. He refused to take concrete actions to help them and has done nothing concrete about the human rights violations in China affecting one to two millions Uyghurs. In fact he wouldn't even join our allies, our Parliament and declare it a genocide. He did a poor job in the pandemic. He failed Canadians by not closing the border to air travel early in the pandemic. He followed the recommendations of the China controlled W.H.O. He sent PPEs to China and tried to negotiate a vaccine supply from China. He tried to do a military training deal with China by having China send PLA soldiers to Canada for a training exercise and he sent Canadians soldiers to march in a military parade in China. Bizarre but true. He still hasn't banned Huawei 5G. He failed to ensure Canada had vaccine manufacturing capability. The Liberals dropped to a minority government in the 2019 election. Trudeau might have a tough fight beating Harper now.
  8. Quote: Does the Bible apply to everyone? - Is it for everyone? Bible Question: Does the Bible apply to non-Christians? Bible Answer: The Bible refers to itself as the Scriptures, the Word of the Lord, the Word of God, the Word of Truth, the Word of Christ and the Word of Life, for example. 2 Peter 1:20-21 states that God the Holy Spirit wrote it. But who was it written for? Our question is, “Does the Bible apply to non-Christians?” These Things Were Written The answer to the question is, “Does the Bible apply to non-Christians?” is yes! For example, the gospel of John was written so that people would believe Jesus is the Christ. That is, Jesus is the future ruler and king over the entire world. He is also the one who died on a cross so that we could have our sins forgiven and gain eternal life. The gospel of John is for everyone. Here is the passage that tells us the gospel of John was written for everyone. John 1:12; 3:16, 36 was written to everyone, that includes non-Christians, to inform them that they can have their sins forgiven. Notice that we are told “But as many as received Him,” “that whoever believes in Him” and “He who believes in the Son has eternal life” are written for everyone, including non-Christians. Faith Comes By The Word of God Romans 10:14-17 is a beautiful passage that reveals people become Christians by hearing the Word of Christ, that is, the Bible. In this passage Christians are encouraged to share the good news from the Bible about Jesus Christ to everyone because no one will believe in Christ unless someone tells them. We need to tell others what is written in the Bible about Jesus. We should notice that “How Beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news of good things” is quoted from Isaiah 52:7. This means the principle of teaching non-believers and believers the Word of God exists in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible was written for everyone and not just for Christians. Acts 1:8 is another wonderful passage since it teaches us that God wants us to spread the good news about Jesus Christ, which is in the Bible, to the entire world. Here we learn that Jesus commanded the disciples to spread the good news in the city, county and state in which we live. We are told to also share the good news to people in nations near us and around the world. In Matthew 28:19-20, it is very clear that Christians are to teach the Bible to everyone throughout the world. Finally, in the book of Jonah we discover that God loves the world. God commanded Jonah to preach to the city of Nineveh and urge them to repent. Eventually, Jonah went to the city and preached the message that God gave him. When he did so, the city repented. Conclusion: In the book of Revelation, we are told that during the future tribulation period, the angels of heaven will be preaching the gospel to the entire world. Therefore, we conclude that the Bible is for everyone in the world. If they reject the Bible or refuse to hear it, then they will go to hell. They alone will be responsible for their eternal destiny. Does the Bible apply to non-Christians? - Is it for everyone? | NeverThirsty Unquote
  9. Any form of incest is diabolical according to the Bible and common sense. It is depravity. It is self destructive of the individuals doing it. It is strong self poison and contrary to civilized society. "29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: {without natural…: or unsociable} 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:29-32 KJB
  10. Could Stephen Harper make Canada a better place? He is only 61 and has been a successful winner before. If Erin O'Toole loses the next election, which may be within weeks or months, could this be the solution to getting Canada back on a better track? Could it be the only way to defeat Trudeau? Harper has a name that is known by everyone. Is there anyone else who could have a chance of beating Trudeau? Are you tired of the division, virtue signaling, and putting our institutions like Parliament down as Trudeau recently did? Are you tired of the ethics violations? Trudeau said just the other day Parliament was an institution built on colonialism, racism, etc. Enough of that. Maybe we can get a highly qualified and experienced man back who cares about Canada and respects our country, people, and institutions. Bring Back Harper - Rebel News
  11. Since some seem to think incest is acceptable, this explanation of what the Bible teaches about it may be considered: So of course it should be a crime. Quote: Question: "Why did God allow incest in the Bible?" Answer: There are numerous examples of incest in the Bible. The most commonly thought-of examples are the sons/daughters of Adam and Eve (Genesis 4), Abraham marrying his half-sister Sarah (Genesis 20:12), Lot and his daughters (Genesis 19), Moses’ father Amram who married his aunt Jochebed (Exodus 6:20), and David’s son Amnon with his half-sister Tamar (2 Samuel 13). It is important to note, however, that in two of the above instances (Tamar and Lot), one of the parties involved was an unwilling participant in the incest—better described as rape in those cases.It is important to distinguish between incestuous relationships prior to God commanding against them (Leviticus 18:6–18) and incest that occurred after God’s commands had been revealed. Until God commanded against it, it was not incest. It was just marrying a close relative. It is undeniable that God allowed “incest” in the early centuries of humanity. Since Adam and Eve were the only two human beings on earth, their sons and daughters had no choice but to marry and reproduce with their siblings and close relatives. The second generation had to marry their cousins, just as after the flood the grandchildren of Noah had to intermarry amongst their cousins. One reason that incest is so strongly discouraged in the world today is the understanding that reproduction between closely related individuals has a much higher risk of causing genetic abnormalities. In the early days of humanity, though, this was not a risk due to the fact that the human genetic code was relatively free of defects.Another consideration is that incest today almost always involves a pre-pubescent or powerless victim, and the perpetrator is abusing his or her authority with the goal of unilateral sexual pleasure. By that standard, the “incest” of the Bible has nothing whatsoever in common with modern-day incest. There was no power difference between Cain and his wife, for example; the goal of Abraham and Sarah’s marriage was to create a family. Intermarriage among close family members was a necessity in the generations immediately following Adam and Noah and was not a sinful perversion of sex.It seems that, by the time of Moses, the human genetic code had become polluted enough that close intermarriage was no longer safe. So, God commanded against sexual relations with siblings, half-siblings, parents, and aunts/uncles (Genesis 2:24 seems to indicate that marriage and sexual relations between parents and children were never allowed by God). It was not until many centuries later that humanity discovered the genetic reason that incest is unsafe and unwise. Genetics was not an issue in the early centuries of humanity, and the marriages that occurred between Adam and Eve’s children, Abraham and Sarah, and Amram and Jochebed were not selfish pursuits of sexual gratification or abuses of authority; accordingly, those relationships should not be viewed as incestuous. The key is that sexual relations between close relatives were viewed differently pre-Law and post-Law. It did not become “incest” until God commanded against it. Unquote Why did God allow incest in the Bible? | GotQuestions.org
  12. In this age of gender confusion and dysphoria, here is an enlightening 45 minute message on the Biblical view of manhood and womanhood. Transgender | A Biblical View on Manhood & Womanhood - YouTube
  13. quote The Medical Truth about Gender Dysphoria At one time it would have been unnecessary, but it, now, has to be said: The American College of Pediatricians should be awarded a courage award for stating the obvious: To those who suffer from “gender dysphoria” (the new diagnostic language in DSM-5 replacing “Gender Identity Disorder” in DSM-IV-TR), feeling trapped in a person of the opposite sex, the prestigious association responds with merciful scientific clarity:
  14. 2. Gender Identity Someone with respect for Scripture may say at this point, “I agree that God makes us either male or female. But you are confusing biological sex with gender. I know transgender Christians who desire to embrace God’s design for men and women, but they also believe that who God created them to be does not correspond with the sex assigned to them at birth.” I don’t doubt that there are persons like this out there (and in our churches). While some people embracing a transgender identity may do so on a lark, many strongly feel that only by living as the opposite sex can they fully embrace their true self. The question is not whether such persons and feelings exist. The question is whether the is of our emotional or mental state equals the ought of God’s design. Most Christians reject this thinking in a host of other areas, from eating disorders to unbiblical divorces. We understand that following Christ means dying to ourselves (Matt. 16:24), being renewed in our minds (Rom. 12:2), and no longer walking as we once did (Eph. 4:17-18). Being “true to ourselves” is always a false choice when it means going against God’s Word. As much as contemporary academia says otherwise, the Bible believes in the organic unity of biological sex and gender identity. This is why male and female are (uniquely) the type of pair that can reproduce (Gen. 1:28; 2:20). It’s why homosexuality—a man lying with a man as with a woman (Lev. 18:22)—is wrong. It’s why the apostle Paul can speak of homosexual partnerships as deviating from the natural relations or natural function of male-female sexual intercourse (Rom. 1:26-27). In each instance, the argument only works if there is an assumed equivalence between the biology of sexual difference and the corresponding identities of male and female. 3. Gender Confusion The third building block follows naturally from the other two. If the binary of male and female is God’s idea, and if we are meant to embrace, by divine design, our biological and creational difference as men and women, then it stands to reason that the confusion of these realities would be displeasing to God. And so we see clearly in the Bible that men should not act sexually as women (Lev. 18:22; Rom. 1:18-32; 1 Cor. 6:9-10), that men should not dress like women (Deut. 22:5), and that when men and women embrace obviously other-gendered expressions of identity it is a disgrace (1 Cor. 11:14-15). We do not have an inalienable right to do whatever we want with our physical selves. We belong to God and should glorify him with our bodies (1 Cor. 6:19-20). unquote What Does the Bible Say About Transgenderism? (thegospelcoalition.org) It doesn't matter if you dislike religious people. It's what God thinks that matters. The world is full of self-centered people who think their own will is all that matters. These are the ones that dislike Christians and is the reason there is so much persecution in the world today. They want to be free to do whatever they please without others questioning or opposing what they do.
  15. Depends on whether you support perversion and child abuse in trying to help a young girl receive harmful, life-altering medical treatments and hormones that could wreck her life. At least the father can say he tried to help save her from the evil of the government and court in what they are doing. The court and government are using the power of the state to crush a father's individual Charter right to freedom of speech by silencing him from speaking about the great evil being done to his daughter. Then sending him to jail for speaking out. That is tyranny and Marxist.
  16. It is simply a news report about a man who was jailed for calling his (trans) daughter a girl, which she biologically is. Where's the lie in that? You are grasping for straws now. I have not seen lies on the Post Millennial. They report on a lot of corruption which would embarrass the liberals and left.
  17. The Bible is not actually a book of "morality". The Bible is God's revelation to man and contains his plan from the beginning of time to the end of this earthly age. So it is far more than a book on morality. While it does contain many moral teachings, it is far more than that. It describes man's fallen, lost condition and what man can do about it to be redeemed and what provision God has made to redeem lost man. So it centres around Jesus Christ as Savior for lost mankind, but it makes it clear that being redeemed is an individual matter between each individual and God. Nobody can meet the standards of perfection that God requires and the Bible makes it clear that is why every individual must be born again to be saved. As far as who is lost, I will go by what God says in the Bible. "36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36 KJB
  18. Here is a news report which shows the deep depravity of our society and system. Father jailed after referring to biological female child as his daughter | The Post Millennial
  19. Perhaps the idea "morality and logic" are the same thing is incorrect or a poor concept. It is a mistake for me to try to use common terms or this world's ideas to convey biblical truth. Biblical truth is completely at odds with the world system and completely contrary to secular humanism. Most of the world follows Satan which mean secular humanism or the world's concept of morality or logic. However, religious battles in this world are not the end of it. The majority in the world are wrong and the Bible teaches they have already lost. You might think when you see the practices and culture in the world that defines morality or what is right or wrong, that you have found the truth. Far from it. God has the final say and while the world may think they have the upper hand, their time is limited and God is the judge. There will be a day of judgment for everyone according to the Bible and all evil doers will receive their just punishment in damnation. There is salvation for those who will listen to the Bible and be converted. The rest are lost.
  20. Your fundamental premise that you, which are a mere speck of dust in the universe, should think you can judge God is ludicrous. You approach the Bible and God with the attitude that demons or the evil one might have. Totally wrong. If you have even a slight indication of understanding of who God is you might have a hair of credibility. So you have taken nothing out of the Bible to give you any understanding. There are countless websites that explain the meaning of verses and parts of the Bible. So you have not looked at anything to answer your questions. Why there is slavery and always has been is a subject you could investigate and find out what the actual teachings are, including the New Testament period. As for Christians in the apostolic age, the New Testament teaches slaves were to be treated with respect and kindness. Mankind has not all been born in the same status in life. Perhaps that has to do with the Fall of Man. After Adam and Eve rebelled against God, mankind inherited a fallen, sinful nature and world became a corrupt evil place. There are many examples of inequality. Some are born rich, some are born with nothing. Some are born with serious physical defects. Some die at birth. Some live to be over a hundred. That is the way the world is. Google the fall of man and the Bible. The fallen state of the world and man is likely the reason why there is slavery. We still have it today in for example sex slavery. A corrupt world. If you have been raised somewhat in Catholicism or in a mixture of confusion, I can understand why you might have a problem. You say your folks were Catholic and fundamental Baptist, which are polar opposites. That might have caused some problems for you because there would be no agreement on theological matters. My background has some similarity. I was raised Catholic and did attend the Catholic church until I was about 30. But by God's grace I heard the gospel over the radio when I was about 35 years old and God converted me to his Son, Jesus Christ. I never went back to the Catholic church. I got baptized in an evangelical church. Afterward, I studied about Catholicism in books and compared the Bible teachings and found it is a totally false man-made religion. Jesus is the only Savior and is my Savior and Lord. The Catholic church or being a Catholic cannot save you from hell. I know the Catholic church does not give much credence to the Bible and places it's church majesterium, church fathers, and teachings of the church as the final authority. However that position is contrary to the Bible itself.
  21. You reveal your ignorance of the Bible and what it teaches with your false statements. Sad but true. God does not condone slavery, rape and genocide. In fact, the Bible teaches the exact opposite of what you claim. It teaches man is to love they neighbour as thyself. You simply have not studied the Bible at all. Pardon me you are correct about Richard Dawkins. It is Richard Dawkins, the famous atheist. My memory is slipping. You can watch the debate on youtube between Dawkins and Lennox.
  22. I don't agree. The Bible proves it came from God, but what you do with it is up to you. The fact that Jesus was raised from the dead and seen by many eyewitnesses proves what he said in the Bible came from God and proves he is in fact God. The Bible is God's ordained way of communicating to man how to be saved, go to heaven and have eternal life. As the Bible says, God has not chosen, in a general sense, the rich, the powerful, the successful, or famous, but has chosen the foolish things of this world. That is the way God does things sometimes. By the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. The rest will be lost for eternity. There is no salvation apart from the gospel given in the Bible. Many say that they don't believe the Bible was inspired by God but likely none of them have even studied the Bible and don't really know what they are saying. Jesus said "many are called but few are chosen". This is why I think most people won't be going to heaven. I will say a short prayer for you.
  23. It's not the GG and Constitutional Monarch that are wrecking Canada. It is the elected politicians, particularly the left and liberals that are wrecking everything. The GG has no power to make laws and policies; it is only the government that does that. Capitalism is the best system in the world by far and has given the countries that have it the greatest wealth and prosperity in the world. Capitalists invest their money in industries that produce wealth and create thousands of jobs. Socialism is inefficient and creates a huge bureaucracy that wastes the nation's wealth. Nothing wrong with having a few privileged royals to ensure our democracy and freedom survives. It is a focal point for unity. That's why the Queen is basically a non-political office. People think the royals are consuming far more than everyone else, but many people forget the staff that look after the royals are highly-desired positions that are jobs created. The royals eat the same amount as everyone else. The jobs looking after them and transporting them create employment for a lot of people, which is a good thing.
  24. What you say is very commonly believed by many people. The answer to that according to the Bible is: "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God has showed it to them. that which. Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Psalm 19:1-6 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork… Isaiah 40:26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth. in them. John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." OFFICIAL KING JAMES BIBLE ONLINE: AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION (KJV)
  25. We are living in an age when it seems almost anything goes and is condoned by much of society including governments and political parties. Yet when there are controversies about assault in the RCMP and military, politicians claim offence or disapproval, yet they support much of the perversion and immorality in society under the claim of being "inclusive". In fact, women in the RCMP and military and non-consenting prisoners in prisons are being sexually assaulted continuously. Lawlessness seems to reign. Laws and the public education system is designed now to promote and facilitate these behaviors. It is the law of the jungle. This article goes into some of the issues: "The Plague of Perversion By Wayne Jackson One of the most devastating movements to evolve from human degeneracy in recent decades is the so-called “Gay Pride Movement.” The growing popularity of homosexual and transgender lifestyles is a growing phenomenon. They’ve been buoyed by considerable support from the entertainment industry and significant publicity from the news media. No longer content to practice perversion behind closed doors, the LGBTQ axis has moved into the mainstream of society and flaunts their immorality in the most extravagant ways. Marching in gay-pride parades, they thrust lewdness in the faces of men, women, and children. They’ve invaded school systems at every level. Their agenda has no limits. They are demanding full “human rights,” which according to them includes the right to hold influential governmental positions, teach in schools, marry, and to not be discriminated against in any job based on a chosen sexual behavior. Huge corporations have capitulated to the powerful LGBTQ lobby. Cities, states and even the Supreme Court have caved to this movement so that private businesses have been forced to acknowledge “civil unions.” In 2015, the nation-wide “gay marriage” agenda was achieved thanks to the Supreme Court decision. Incidentally, it should be noted that one of the justices weighing in on this opinion was a homosexual woman appointed by President Obama. The very fact that so many in our country have become sympathetic to this perverted movement ought to be a danger signal to every moral person. The Cause of Homosexuality Exactly what is responsible for a homosexual or gender alteration? Some medical authorities assert that homosexuality is either the result of genetic problems (abnormal chromosome variations) or psychological aberrations. It is now known that in most instances of homosexuality this is not the case. More than a half-century ago, Pritchard’s study of male homosexuals found a normal complement of XY chromosomes in every case (1962, 108). In 1974, the American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses. In the spring of 1979, after a decade-long study, sex researchers Masters and Johnson (who were not pillars of moral virtue) concluded that homosexuality for most persons is neither a physical or emotional illness, nor is it a genetic disorder. Rather, it is a learned behavior. Study of this subject led Dr. Jerry Bergman to state: For more information, see the article on the so-called Gay Gene by Dave Miller. The Biblical View of Homosexuality In the sacred Scriptures, homosexuality is not viewed as a medical issue. Rather, it is a moral problem. The name of Sodom lives in the infamy of history. So well known is the biblical narrative concerning the perversions of Sodom and Gomorrah, that across the centuries the term “Sodomite” became synonymous with a homosexual. Recent allegations by modernistic theologians who suggest that the sin of Sodom was mere inhospitality or an intended “gang rape” contains not a shred of evidence. When Jehovah’s messengers came to Lot’s house in Sodom, certain base men surrounded the dwelling and urged Abraham’s nephew to send out the visitors “that we may know them” (Gen. 19:5). The word “know” (Hebrew yada; Greek ginosko) is sometimes employed in the Bible as a euphemism for “to have sexual relations with” (cf. Gen. 4:1; Mt. 1:25). The men of Sodom clearly wanted to engage in sexual activity with Lot’s guests. These men were characterized as “wicked” and their sin is said to be “very grievous” (Gen. 18:20ff). In the New Testament, the inspired Peter affirmed that God turned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes and “condemned them with an overthrow, having made them an example unto those that should live ungodly.” Yet righteous Lot, who was “sore distressed by the lascivious life of the wicked” and daily vexed with their “lawless deeds,” was delivered (2 Pet. 2:6-8). Later, the law of Moses declared: Some claim, however, that since many Old Testament regulations are obsolete today (e.g., the wearing of a garment of mingled fabric — Deut. 22:11), so also injunctions against sodomy may be similarly ignored. This is a woeful blunder. Some Old Testament regulations were strictly ceremonial in nature and thus solely a part of that temporary system. Homosexuality is a moral evil that assaults the home, the very foundation of human society. It has never been tolerated by God. The Teaching of Jesus Christ Some religionists (homosexuals and their sympathizers), while admitting that certain New Testament passages appear to condemn homosexual conduct, nonetheless deny that Jesus personally censured such acts. This is totally inaccurate. First, Christ clearly taught that the doctrine of his inspired spokesmen ultimately was from him. To the seventy disciples under his commission, he said, “He who hears you hears me; and he who rejects you rejects me” (Lk. 10:16). Paul, who was very outspoken about sodomy, affirmed that the things he wrote were “the commandment of the Lord” (1 Cor. 14:37). Second, when Jesus spoke of marriage as that which was ordained of God, he stated it was for male and female (Mt. 19:4-6). There is no authority or provision for “gay marriage.” Third, the Lord’s concession, that fornication against an innocent spouse is grounds for divorce by the victim, condemns sodomy since this vile practice is a form of fornication. This point needs some elaboration. Unless there are contextual indications (either immediate or remote) which suggest that biblical terms have been given special meanings, the words of the sacred text are to be understood as they were commonly employed by the writers of that era. The word “fornication” (Greek porneia) was used in antiquity in a generic sense "of various kinds of “unsanctioned sexual intercourse” (Danker et al. 2000, 854). It includes such sins as prostitution, incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and such like (Reisser 1975, 497-501). Jude explicitly declares that Sodom and her neighbors had “given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh” (Jude 7). Finally, Christ indicated that ancient Sodom was in need of repentance and that they justly were destroyed (cf. Mt. 11:23, 24; Lk. 17:29). Additional New Testament Evidence Paul’s inspired rebuke of homosexuality in his letter to the Romans could be misunderstood only by the willfully ignorant. In Romans 1:26-27, homosexual conduct is characterized as: the result of vile passions; a perversion from the natural to that which is against nature (note Jude’s reference to “strange flesh” [vs. 7]); lust causing males to burn for males and females for females; unseemliness; error that was due recompense. Further, in 1 Corinthians 6:9 the apostle declares that the “effeminate” (malakos “pert. to being passive in a same-sex relationship, effeminate, especially of catamites, of men and boys who are sodomized by other males in such a relationship” [Danker et al., 613]). Also condemned are “abusers of themselves with men” who cannot (in that condition) inherit the kingdom of God. This latter phrase translates the Greek word arsenokoites (from arsen — a male and koite — bed). Literally, it is males in bed with males! In 1 Timothy 1:9-10, Paul puts homosexuals in the same lawless class with murderers of parents. Some attempt to wrest the Scriptures by suggesting that Paul was not condemning homosexuality per se, rather, only the abuse of this practice. But there is, liberals maintain, a proper homosexual relationship that would be approved. How absurd! The same type of logic would imply that there is a legitimate form of drunkenness, idolatry, murder, etc. — that only the perversions of such acts are condemned! The Matter of Rights The contention is frequently made these days that sexual preference is entirely a private affair. We are told that what homosexuals do is their business. Those who fancy themselves as broadminded intellectuals allege that the “rights” of all must be protected. There are several things wrong with this reasoning: First, the homosexuals and other sexually aberrant practitioners are pushing for public acceptance of their conduct. They want to teach in public schools, and they’ve gotten their way. But do parents have any rights? As a parent, do I have the right to expect that my children will receive their education from reasonably moral people? Should those who champion incest and bestiality be denied their “rights” to teach children? It seems there is no restraint on the “rights” of the wicked, only those who are trying to live godly lives. Secondly, one spokesperson for the Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights has stated that the ultimate goal of the gay liberation movement is “freedom of sexual expression for young people and children.” The writer says, “We gain nothing by limiting our defense of homosexual love to consensual sex between adults. It is absurd to charge gay men who share their sexuality with boys as ‘child molesters’” (Stockton Record, 1979). Is this what the Constitution of the United States was designed to protect? What Shall We Do? It would be most desirable if we could simply teach sinful homosexuals to abandon their wickedness, obey Christ, and accept his forgiveness (Acts 2:38). This is precisely what some in the first century did (1 Cor. 6:9-11). However, the so-called gay community is totally unconcerned with anything the Bible says. These people must be dealt with differently. This approach is thus suggested: Virtually every person has a threshold of morality at some point. Those opposed to this depravity must demand that homosexuals defend their practice on some moral basis. For example, is bestiality immoral? What about incest? If the homosexuals endorse this type of activity, let them come out and publicly say so. If they feel that such conduct is immoral, by what standard is their judgment made? They must be pressured to logically and consistently defend their views. It will become apparent that when one rejects God as the ultimate standard of right and wrong (as his will is revealed ultimately in the New Testament), there is absolutely no stopping place for human immorality. Who is willing to accept the inevitability of this type of thinking? Scarcely anyone except those who have no regard for logic and who revel in debauchery. Let us, therefore, kindly, but forcefully, press these truths upon our contemporaries. We must take the initiative in this struggle for decent conduct. The future of generations yet unborn depends upon how intelligently, spiritually, and vigorously we engage this battle. The Plague of Perversion : Christian Courier
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