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The majority do not support insurrection. This has to end or the government will be forced to act. The longer it goes on, the more people will see the government has no choice. Maybe that is why Trudeau is not acting right away. Time changes things.

The organizers want to overthrow the government and set up a dictatorship of their own. They demand all restrictions and health measure be ended. Their demands are completely outlandish and bordering on sedition. They leave the government no choice. There is no way the government can negotiate with a group of anarchists and come to any resolution. The health measures are not something that can be dictated by such a group. They left the government with no choice but to reject them. It is kind of like the FLQ crisis where the FLQ took a cabinet minister of Quebec hostage and killed him. This will not end well for the occupiers.

I don't see this ending well for the occupiers. Trudeau has been neglecting his responsibility to act. He should examine what his father did in 1970 during the FLQ crisis and learn how his father acted. PM Pierre Trudeau declared the war measures act, sent in the army, and arrested hundreds of people. If the Ottawa police chief has said repeatedly this is an insurrection and they do not have the power or resources to end it, the federal government really has no choice. There is no other method to end a large insurrection other than using emergency measures and the army.

You're kidding of course. You know nothing about what is legal and illegal. Again how old are you?? I would guess maybe 10 or 12 years old.

It's not a "peaceful protest". It is an illegal occupation. So you're ok with the people of Ottawa being held hostage, threatened, harassed, intimidated, and assaulted with noise. The people are being used as hostages by a group of thugs trying to force the government to give them their way. It will never work. The police announced they have issued 450 tickets in the last 24 hours and 100 investigations are underway.

Why do you think the citizens of Ottawa should be treated like this? What did they do to deserve this?

Elon Musk sounds like another radical Trumpster. Now we know where the money is coming from...the far right Trump crowd in the U.S. Glad the Go Fund Me had enough sense to shut it down. They learned from the Ottawa police that there were lots of illegal acts going on. There are 50 investigations of criminals acts underway. Go Fund Me should hold the money because they will need it to pay the millions of dollars in legal settlements from a class action lawsuit now being launched against the convoy organizers by the people of Ottawa.

What on earth does Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple have to do with this illegal occupation and criminal activity? Jesus drove them out because they were using a place of worship to run business and make money. Nothing to do with Roman laws. There have been lots of criminals offenses committed in the blockade. The steady honking of loud truck horns is a criminal assault as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you don't care about other people, but it is causing a lot of harm to the people in that area and surrounding neighbourhoods.

The steady blasting horns is harming the health of the citizens and is a criminal offense or type of assault. People who are not affected by it might not see it as such, but that is what it is. Police are also investigating dozens of more offenses.

There are many criminals/thugs in the Ottawa blockade who are harassing, intimidating and committing criminal assault with the loud, steady noise for days on end. These are not beggars or people who need ministering by a counselor. They are there to harass and assault people with their horns blasting. People living there have to put up with this from 6 or 7 AM to 11 or 12 PM at night. People feel unsafe. This is not sustainable. The government will have to take action before long. I would praise the people who are trying to help residents living in this part of Ottawa by helping seniors and others by taking them out for a walk, helping them take their dogs for a walk, picking up groceries for them. People are frightened of these terrorists and thugs doing all this stuff. They all are very frustrated and sad that the police or doing so little or next to nothing to protect the citizens of Ottawa.

There are serious criminal offences taking place in Ottawa bud. One of the big criminal offences is the steady blasting of truck horns day and night that is seriously affecting the health of people living in the downtown and surrounding areas. They are blasting these horns which have a noise level far above the health and safty levels of noise. Well up over 100 decibels. People have been kept awake for days and their mental health is being effected. This is a deliberate and planned assault on the citizens. There is nothing else you can call it. You should pay more attention to the health and safety of citizens than worry about a bunch of thugs and law-breakers.

They are breaking bylaws in blocking streets, illegal parking on streets, noise bylaws by blowing their horns 16 or 18 hours a day, threatening and insulting citizens for a start. They are likely breaking a number of bylaws. Also illegally occupying parks, and constructing illegal buildings.

Those verse have no application to people who are illegally occupying the streets and breaking the laws.

First of all these are not protesters. They are thugs who are illegally occupying the streets and committing illegal acts. They deserve the force of the law to end the criminal acts that they committing. If you think these are law-abiding citizens who are obeying the law, you are talking to the wrong person.

I don't think you know the teachings of Jesus and the Bible. "1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. {ordained: or, ordered} 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. " Romans 13:1-6 KJV These verses warn against those who resist authority and warns evil doers to be afraid because the authorities bear the sword not in vain. That means God ordained authorities and they have the power to use whatever force is necessary.

Seriously, how old are you?

I agree with the police chief. Of course no officer should be giving out supplies to the occupiers. What do you think the police are there for?

I never said anything about jailing them. Where did you come up with that one? They should kick their ass out of there. Do whatever is necessary to end this nonsense.

A glass of water? Are you a kid or an adult? I oppose illegal blockades and the steady noise they are making which is criminal. I can't see this lasting much longer. The authorities will have to take action. These are criminals blockading and occupying streets.

Why do you pick information on Israel which is totally different than many other countries? Something suspicious about that. Look at the statistics for the U.S. A graph shows unvaccinated people in the U.S. have a death rate of about 100 times greater than people who are fully vaccinated with their booster shot. How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not? - Our World in Data Fully vaccinated people are 93% less likely to die of COVID compared to unvaccinated people Here is the COVID death rate for vaccinated people vs. unvaccinated people | Fortune There are no lockdowns for the vaccinated. There are vaccine mandate and passports but no lockdowns. Do you know the difference? Nov. 10, 2021 – While COVID-19 vaccine mandates have sparked lawsuits and protests, the data shows that they’re working and increasing vaccination rates. .COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates Are Working, Public Health Experts Say (webmd.com)

This thread has become nothing more than an echo chamber with a handful of "freedom" protesters echoing each other constantly. Here is a news article describing how Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has gone off the deep end in ignoring medical experts and supporting the anti-restrictions "freedom" convoy. He is completely out of touch with not only medical experts, but out of sync with other political leaders in Canada. Political scientists say Sask premier's stance on vaccines is unprecedented (msn.com)

This subject has pretty well been beaten to death the past couple years. It is tragic if someone has a serious effect from the vaccine, but from what I have heard regularly, it is extremely rare. The issue is that over a million people have died from Covid in the world, and about 33,000 in Canada have died. Many who survived Covid have lasting negative health effects. So the point I am making is the vaccine is the only real protection the world has to this deadly virus. It is terrible if someone died as a result, but it is like a war. Look at the millions who died fighting for their country in wars. Even police officers risk their lives every day to protect society but occasionally one of them gets killed. We don't abolish the police because of that. We didn't ask for this virus. Our authorities are doing the best they can to protect us from it. Thousands, maybe tens of thousands of lives have been saved in Canada by vaccination. So tell me what is the rationale for opposing something that saves so many lives. Surely you can't say because a rare case has negative consequences that vaccination shouldn't happen. Your comment is that of an anti-vaxxer. I have a grand daughter who has been an anti-vaxxer for years and she has put four kids in danger because she caught Covid and spread it to her family. She could have died and left the three little ones and the older kid with no mother. However, she is set in her thinking and I can't do anything about it except pray. She survived Covid although I heard she was quite ill for a few days. Thankfully her husband had to be vaccinated for his job.

According to this article eliminating mandates and vaccine passports will reduce freedom for the majority. The problem is in the case of health measures, imposing certain restrictions does reduce the freedom for some people who refuse to get vaccinated and removing those restrictions likewise reduces freedoms for other people. For example, mandates are imposed to protect workers and people they deal with from the risk of catching Covid from unvaccinated people. If you remove the mandates, then you increase the chances of people catching Covid in the workplace or spreading Covid to the public by unvaccinated workers. A similar situation exists with the vaccine passports. If you remove the passports some people who are unvaccinated will then start going to restaurants, gyms, movie theatres, etc. and increase the risk to the vaccinated people. Opinion: Ditching vaccine passport reduces freedom for the majority (msn.com)

It was reported in the media that Trump had some harsh words about Trudeau lately and threw his support behind the convoys and occupation of Ottawa. A lot of the money donated to Go Fund Me for this came from anonymous foreign sources, some of which were donations over $30,000. Could this money be coming from American Trumpsters? Donald Trump Called Trudeau A 'Far Left Lunatic' Who 'Destroyed' Canada With COVID-19 Mandates (msn.com) Ottawa protest battle lines harden on both sides amid concerns chance for peaceful end has passed (msn.com)

Ottawa residents should join and file a class action lawsuit to claim the ten million dollars from Go Fund Me and an immediate injunction to freeze the funds until the lawsuit is settled. The money could be used to compensate citizens for all the threats, abuse, assaults, loss of income of businesses, defacing the downtown property, a very loud noise effecting the health and well-being of the citizens, and disruption of the lives of Ottawa citizens and reimburse the taxpayers for policing costs. The steady noise is a major offense. This is nothing more than an American-inspired, Jan. 6, type of Trumpster occupation. The similarities are too great to ignore. Trump has already thrown his support behind the anarchists which further proves a connection. In addition to the massive amounts of anonymous money donated to GFM, most of which likely came from American Trumpsters. According to this article, the chances of a peaceful end to this occupation may have already passed. Ottawa protest battle lines harden on both sides amid concerns chance for peaceful end has passed (msn.com)