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What proof of that 16 years do you have? That could be in the U.S. not Canada. You mentioned the U.S. before. We are talking about Canada. There is no reason why the laws cannot be changed to make the time short. Of course there must be enough time allowed for an appeal, but the system can be set up so things happen expeditiously. No need to take 16 years. You just defined yourself right there and cast doubt on any argument you might have or made. "1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Psalm 14: 1-3 KJV Therein lies the real reason we do not have capital punishment for murderers... heathenism or an anti-God attitude that is destroying society and western civilization. The foundation of a civilized society has been our Christian heritage. That is what brought human rights, democracy, and a semblance of a justice system that gives consideration to the rights of the accused. These things do not exist in non-Christian countries or heathen nations. Read the King James Bible, Gospel of John and come to the knowledge of God and His Son Jesus before it is too late. You are speaking entirely as a natural man and spoke against the one thing that is the source of true wisdom, that is, God. " True wisdom, like God’s grace, is alien to the natural man. Wisdom is, in fact, a divine gift that is granted by God whenever any believer asks. This is the clear teaching of James:" The True Meaning of Wisdom - What It Is and How to Get It (biblestudytools.com)

No, the legal system would be the one that decides the innocence or guilt of a murderer and pronounce the sentence. Mankind is not perfect since the Fall of Man. But we must do the best we can with what God has given us in terms of a justice system to protect society.

The fact is it just doesn't work that way. We see how the Supreme Court ruled that murderers who are sentenced to life only means 25 years and then they must be given the chance to apply for parole and drag the victim's family through the whole horror show again every few years. The Supreme Court ruled everyone must have a "faint hope" which is soft-on-crime ideology of liberals. That is one problem with this whole thing. We have also seen the parole board release dangerous offenders simply because they are aboriginal and last September a guy stabbed eleven or twelve people to death in Saskatchewan. We see how the liberal government is constantly changing and tweeking the laws in line with their liberal soft-on-crime ideology. This creates more threats and danger from convicted murderers. They want to release aboriginals and blacks into society because of their higher numbers in prison. The truth is when you lock people up for life you create a new set of problems. 1. High cost over the length of time, possibly over a million dollars for the taxpayer to pay. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for a murderer to live? 2. You create a danger that a convicted murderer will be released on parole and murder someone else in future. Nobody can predict what such a person will do. 3. Capital punishment for murder is ordered by God in Genesis in the Bible, which is written by men who were inspired by God. See Genesis 9:6 KJV This is not human wisdom. This comes from God. The other principle taught in Scripture is a fact can be established by several witnesses. Your claim that witnesses will lie is overblown and you would have to give some proof and show why. Courts are ready to hear all of the evidence and reasons why a particular witness is not trustworthy or why the witness is credible. Yes, humans are fallible, but this is the only known system we have on earth to protect society from evil people such as murderers.

I don't believe it would be more expensive to enforce capital punishment than life in prison. No reason why it should cost a lot of money. I also don't believe that there are the number of mistakes in Canada as you seem to claim. Perhaps the system will need to be revamped and a better system put in place before the capital punishment is brought in, but I think that is the only thing that might provide some deterrence. Canadians are sick of seeing the daily killings going on and nothing being done to try to stop it. Far more innocent people are being killed, including policemen, than would ever be mistakenly killed by capital punishment. Actually more lives may be saved if it can be also used as a deterrent for would-be murderers. But like I said I would be glad to see the system revised to make sure that there are no false guilty verdicts for murder cases. I am sure there must be ways it could be improved. I do not believe in giving 25 year sentences to murderers, especially cases of multiple murders. It sends the wrong message to society and does nothing to deter murderers. Abolition of capital punishment was not done because mistakes have been made; it was abolished because of liberal, left soft-on-crime ideology. They have no concept of justice. They have often let dangerous offenders out that go on to kill other people. This should never happen. Capital punishment would help eliminate that problem. The person would not be around to be let out to victimize other people as they are doing now. "In 2021, police services from across Canada reported 788 homicides, 29 more than in 2020." That works out to more than two homicides per day on average.

I believe there could be certain cases such as the two I mentioned where there were a number of eye witnesses: The mosque attack and the van attack on many people along the street. There may have been many eye witnesses. Perhaps where there are a number of witnesses as in those kind of cases, there would be no chance of a mistake. It costs I believe over a hundred thousand a year to keep someone in prison in Canada. Very doubtful that capital punishment would be more expensive. Mass shootings where there are many witnesses is another case where there would be no doubt. The system would have to be re-designed so that is was absolutely error proof. That would require a lot of research and work and new laws. I doubt it will ever happen in Canada. This has nothing to do with Trudeau.

I believe the justice system has improved much the last number of years with the use of DNA evidence and scientific methods. Then there are also many cases where there eye witnesses. What about that? There might be overwhelming evidence he is the one. There are many variables. I doubt there is any reason why there would be mistakes. There could be systems devised to virtually eliminate any possibility of error. You also have appeal procedures. Things could be done to make sure there are no mistakes in finding guilt. Also, there could be capital punishment for only cases that are very strong with no likelihood of error. Every case is different. I don't believe horrific murderers should escape capital punishment if the evidence is unquestionable and perhaps eye witnesses. If a convicted criminal can produce some serious and credible reasons why his trial was doubtful, then he could be dealt with accordingly with a new trial. There are things that could be done. Just giving every murderer a free pass with a 25 year sentence is not justice. Also all murder cases should have a jury trial. Never just by a judge. I don't know what system they use for murder trials. Juries are instructed that if there is any doubt at all, they are to find the person not guilty. We can recall where some innocent people were convicted, but the system could be changed to ensure that doesn't happen again. What about mass murderers where there were a number of witnesses? Examples like the shooting of multiple people in a mosque as the Quebec City shootings where there were a number of eye witnesses? Why should someone like that escape capital punishment? Then there is the guy that drove a van down a street in Toronto and killed a lot of people, seriously injured many others, and was seen by many witnesses. Why should someone like that escape capital punishment? With the eye witnesses there is no question who did it.

First we are talking about first degree murder. · 1st-degree murder Definition: A homicide that is both planned and deliberate. The main reason for the death penalty should not be as a deterrent, although it might be a deterrent in some cases. We don't know about all potential murders that would have been avoided because of the death penalty because if there was no murder, then there may be no charges laid. The primary reason for the death penalty as I see it is it satisfies justice. If one plans and deliberately takes another person's life, he gives up the right to his own life. "6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. " Genesis 9:6 KJV "3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." Romans 13: 3, 4 KJV God is the final authority on right and wrong, and what is justice, not man. The value of human life is infinite and must be viewed as sacred. Man is corrupt and depraved and is therefore by himself unable to know or understand justice as God sees it.

Why do you think people like Clifford Olson who killed all kinds of kids or the guy that killed a dozen people should not get capital punishment? Or the guy that shot two police officers or even one police officer in Ontario? Do you seriously think no capital punishment is sending the right message to would-be murderers? They know they will be coddled for the next 25 years at taxpayer's expense if they are caught and then maybe get out on parole. Some message! Nobody said you would have to flip the switch. There are countless people who would do the job.

The majority of Canadians in all provinces except Quebec would support capital punishment for murder. Quebec is the only province where a minority would not support capital punishment. Why is that? Quebec is mostly nominal Roman Catholic and has a different ideology. It is likely Canada abolished capital punishment because of politicians from Quebec, not the rest of Canada. Once again they dominate Canada and most PMs come from Quebec. The only logical reason they would support Trudeau is because he is a son of Quebec.

Haiti sounds like the kind of country that could be ripe for a Communist revolution or takeover. An authoritarian regime led by someone like Fidel Castro that would appeal to the masses. A brutal dictator might be preferable in the minds of many people to the endless anarchy we see now. Of course there would be no freedom or basic rights any more. But that is what can happen when a country is in anarchy and lawlessness. The evil dictators see it as an opportunity to grab power and rule with an iron fist. Perhaps such a dictator will convince some of the gangs to side with him and help pull it off. It seems like countries that don't understand Protestant Judeo-Christian principles and beliefs, are ripe for Communist takeovers. Countries that are heavily Roman Catholic also seem to lean toward Communism. The same mentality is playing out in France right now. The government is raising the retirement age from 62 to 64 and there are massive demonstrations opposing that. Yet, to keep the retirement age at 62 would push the country into massive debt and is not sustainable. Many people don't care. They have one of the lowest retirement ages in the world. They just want the government to provide everything and are willing to burn down the place to try to get what they want.

Off hand I don't know what the solution is for Haiti and if there is anything the world can do about it. I am not sure doing nothing is a good option though. I am not sure why the U.N. was incapable of being effective in Rwanda. Perhaps it is bureaucracy that is unable to make decisions and do anything.

Yes, sounds pretty bad there. Too bad there are millions of civilians that just want to live in peace there. The place is a hell hole. Canada has a lot of immigrants from there and the former Governor General is from there. Haiti also speaks French which means there is that added pressure from some French speaking people to help them. So I imagine they are pushing for something to be done, but I don't know what can be done because as you say it is an extremely dangerous and lawless place.

" REAL SEXUAL FREEDOM Jesus understood us better than we understand ourselves. He said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him” (Mark 7:20). In other words, our inner selves are not bundles of wonderfulness just waiting to be let out. The truth is, our messy inner selves, when unleashed, spread more mess. It’s what Jesus came to forgive and clean up. Real sexual freedom is not when we give free rein to our sexual feelings, but when we follow Jesus on his path of wisdom. He created us for purposes so lofty only he can take us there. The seventh commandment alerts us to the sexual dimension of our true glory." God Calms Our Sexual Insanity: The Seventh Commandment for Today | Desiring God

"Every generation tends to think, “The people before us were primitive. We’re smarter now.” Which proves we’re not smarter now. The Bible bluntly declares, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). Obviously, we still don’t." God Calms Our Sexual Insanity: The Seventh Commandment for Today | Desiring God I don't know how many times I've heard the claim that the Bible is ancient written by uneducated ignorant men. Implying of course that we know more today than the ancients who wrote the Bible (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God). Well, the way the world is heading proves that the Bible is true and modern man is wrong and is in denial and ignorance generally speaking.

The U.N. failed miserably in Rwanda in the 1994 massacre. 800,000 moderate people were massacred by extremists in a three month period. The U.N. failed to act to stop the massacre. What does the world or U.N. do when there is no government in control or able to control what is going on with violent people running rampant? Often there is no government in control to invite the U.N. in to restore order. If there was a government in control then they might not need the U.N. or external help. Yugoslavia war of the 1990s was another case where the Yugoslavia government was not in control and fighting was raging. Outside forces from the west went in to take action. The objective is to stop genocides and killing of innocent people.

No, I think they are public events. They are held in public places like public libraries, right? Anybody can express their freedom of expression to oppose some event such as a drag queen event as long as one protests it on public property, the streets or sidewalk and should not block people passing through. There should be space left open for people to attend the event. Protesting something is a Constitutional right but blocking people's access is not. Also there is a line drawn between protesting something and harassment. People should not harass or intimidate individuals going to the event. That's just common sense. Peacefully disagreeing with something is not harassment or intimidation.

Yes, that is true. People are suffering mental, spiritual anguish and are traumatized. The reason is again because of the fall of man and the resultant fallen nature and the choices people make as a result. Perhaps you are starting to see that. Michael gives you an uptick because he thinks you are criticizing me and he loves it when he thinks you are insulting me when in fact you may be stating a spiritual truth when you say people are in pain and suffering. He misunderstands the point I am making completely. Many people have it in their mind that trying to satisfy the lusts of the flesh is the way to go when in fact this just brings endless mental pain to themselves and those around them. Only God's way will deliver one from this anguish and pain and bring healing. That is what the link I gave explains. " The Ten Commandments are rules, but they are not arbitrary, man-made rules. God’s Ten Commandments are big, bold, bright signs guiding us away from the regions of darkness and death, and toward the upland plains of light and life in Christ. The problem is, in our sin, we hate being told what to do. We think we know better. We look at temptations that cannot make our lives better, and we think, “That would make my life better.” The Ten Commandments point toward Sodom and Gomorrah and warn us, “You don’t want to go there.” Yet we look over at that barren wasteland and think, “That must be our garden of Eden.” And off we go." You see, the "progressives" or woke world think the road to happiness is found in something like Sodom and Gomorrah. The government believes that. The liberal-left believe that and they are trying to gear society to make that possible for more people. Hence the child grooming in schools, libraries, etc. This is totally the opposite of what the article talks about. The sad part is so many people are blinded and think somehow the freedom of do whatever one wants in regard to the lust of the flesh is the solution when in fact it is the total opposite. The way to peace and happiness is not found in that ideology or route. It is tragic in the extreme. God Calms Our Sexual Insanity: The Seventh Commandment for Today | Desiring God

No, that's not it at all. I have received by God's grace a little bit of understanding which if you changed your attitude, you could too. Life is not all about satisfying the lusts of the flesh (which I have done my share of regrettably) but by God's grace realized that was a destructive path to follow. God has something far better for precious humans to have than trying to satisfy the desires of the flesh which does not lead to happiness or satisfy one's cravings. Trying to satisfy sexual desires is similar to an alcoholic with liquor or a drug addict trying to satisfy himself with hard drugs. He is never really satisfied and never really happy. " REAL SEXUAL FREEDOM Jesus understood us better than we understand ourselves. He said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him” (Mark 7:20). In other words, our inner selves are not bundles of wonderfulness just waiting to be let out. The truth is, our messy inner selves, when unleashed, spread more mess. It’s what Jesus came to forgive and clean up. Real sexual freedom is not when we give free rein to our sexual feelings, but when we follow Jesus on his path of wisdom. He created us for purposes so lofty only he can take us there. The seventh commandment alerts us to the sexual dimension of our true glory. And the New Testament tells us more. We are sexual beings, ultimately, to embody the gospel (Ephesians 5:32). But if we refuse to offer our sexuality to Jesus, we trivialize and abuse his gift. It’s like using a smartphone to hammer nails. That just isn’t what a smartphone is for, no matter what we might feel. Hammering nails can only damage a smartphone. And haven’t we all done some damage? But when we turn to follow Jesus, dedicating all that we are to him, we start growing into a more settled, confident, careful sexuality, with fewer regrets. How could it be otherwise? Jesus was sexual. He obeyed the seventh commandment fully. And he was the most complete, life-giving man ever. Isn’t that the freedom we want? Aren’t we always better off following him?" The whole article is at this link, "God calms our sexual insanity" God Calms Our Sexual Insanity: The Seventh Commandment for Today | Desiring God “Sexual freedom is not when we give free rein to our sexual feelings, but when we follow Jesus on his path of wisdom.”

Just skimmed through an article about the history of Haiti. I has had a very complicated and troubled history. It appears the U.S. has been the main country involved with Haiti for many years. Haiti has a population of about 11 million people. If the problems there are not eased somehow, many will continue to flee to other countries, including Canada where they can just walk in and claim refugee status. So it is in the interests of America and Canada to see the problems in Haiti resolved. I don't think it would necessarily mean a bloodbath for the U.N. to go in there or even the U.S. I don't think Canada has the capability to do anything much there. The number of armed gangs may be greatly exaggerated and there may be ways found to deal with them peacefully. They would not gain anything by an armed conflict with the U.N. or the U.S. Haiti’s Troubled Path to Development | Council on Foreign Relations (cfr.org)

Haiti is a relatively small country. But it is out of control with armed gangs causing anarchy and terrorizing everyone. I'm sure there are countless people there suffering from hunger and in need of medical care and the place is covered with garbage. As it stands it is not safe for medical staff or patients there. Why is the U.N. not there with peacekeepers? Why would Canada be expected to go in there alone? Canada and other countries spend millions of dollars every year on supporting the U.N. and its various causes. One would think peacekeeping for a small country like Haiti would be a relatively straightforward mission for the U.N. until a strong enough government can be elected and put in place to take over there. It's time the U.N. did something useful for all the money it receives and get in there and bring law and order to the place. End the suffering of the Haiti people. Why have we not heard the Canadian government leaders talking about the U.N. going into Haiti?

The Calgary mayor has proven herself to be a radical progressive/liberal and is using her position to try to stifle freedom of expression of those who oppose the woke nonsense. She is not representing all the people of Calgary although that is what a mayor should be doing. I hope the bylaw is challenged in court even though I don't hold out a lot of hope with the liberal courts.

So why use it? You are claiming you are something you are not.

That describes the 1960s sexual revolution which is destroying the west or the west is destroying itself more accurately. People that turn their back on the true God of the bible self destruct. That's how the fallen corrupt human nature operates. Have you not understood that much yet? It's due to the fall of man and corrupt human nature.

Maybe this kid will be a good military man for his country and defend freedom in the world against the bad guys.

NO such thing as an "impartial observer" unless you're just faking it.