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It's starting to look that way. Deena Hinshaw got caught inflating numbers, saying people who died of one thing actually died of covid. Other world leaders have also got caught fudging numbers. She just recently said, that if any child is missing from school without a good reason, they are counted as a covid case. I mean, really?? WTF

So how do we find out how many people are dying or being maimed from the vaccines? Obviously people are dying and having extreme adverse reactions. You say, they are all lying. Virtually no one has been hurt or died from the vax. You say we can't trust VAErs. The government and media tell us when we DO hear of someone dying after the vax that it's definitely NOT because of the vax because it's almost 100% safe. So..... normally healthy people with no history of issues are dying within days of the vax or violently convulsing for months and it's all "coincidence" and they're all lying?

They ae independent of the mainstream media and the government. Why do you instinctively reject their findings? I doubt you even read the article, as you responded so quickly, it was clear you didn't have time to read it.

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States (nih.gov) This is pretty technical so I know some of you here won't be able to assimilate the information. But basically, vaccination is not really affecting infection levels much.

Ichor Blood Services Scales Alberta Operations to Manage Strong Demand for Quantitative COVID-19 Antibody Testing Offered in Partnership with Mayo Clinic Laboratories (newswire.ca) Results from 4,300 tests completed to date show a 42% positivity rate for antibodies among unvaccinated Albertans, with 12% having scores equivalent to double vaccinated clients. Test results for those who self-identified as fully vaccinated show that 70% have antibody levels at the upper threshold of the test at 250 U/ml, while 30% came back with scores below 250, out of which 10% scored zero. Ichor believes that quantitative COVID-19 antibody testing provides important data that should be considered in the Government's pandemic response, and the company urges policy makers to begin including this data in its decision-making process. "The data proves that vaccines offer very strong antibody protection for the vast majority of people who get immunized, but we can also clearly see that there is a percentage of people who get no protection, even after two vaccine doses," continued Kuzmickas. "At the same time, we can see that a percentage of unvaccinated people have strong antibody levels and 42% of unvaccinated people have some level of antibodies in their system. These tests can be a powerful tool for policy makers to get a more nuanced understanding about protection from COVID-19 in the population."

MSM is not telling the stories of people who have been harmed or died from the vax. Seriously, watch some of the videos and read some of the stories of what people are going through after this vax. They are really frustrated because the media is not telling people what's truly happening. When things are going very very wrong, it's NEVER MSM that is honest. Sheesh, look at countries where the government turns totalitarian - you think you're getting the truth from government sponsored media. Wakey Wakey

Why do you think that? Because the media isn't telling those stories, so "virtually no one has died from the vax"? You really think virtually no one has died from this vax? You need to educate yourself on what is really going on. Just the adverse reactions alone, never mind the deaths, are mind-boggling as to why we are continuing to force people to vax. Most vaccines are removed from the shelf and never used again if there are as little as 5 deaths. This one has killed and maimed waaaay more people than that. And we are forcing people to do it. Forcing it on children, who have very little chance of dying of covid, but it's already been in the news that Moderna is not recommending their vax for teenage/young adult boys and WE ARE STILL FORCING THEM TO VAX! You don't even wonder why?

Why don't we ask elderly and terminally ill people what THEY want? You know since they are the ones mainly dying of covid. "Hey, person with a week/month left to live - we can vaccinate you against a flu, which may or may not work, OR We can shut down all of society, force everyone else to take an experimental vaccine that we have no clue what the long-term effects are, fire people from their jobs if they don't want to be part of the experiment, force children (who are at almost 0% risk from covid) to vaccinate Oh! and a certain percentage of children will develop life-long heart problems, possible infertility, definite convulsions and neurological violent shaking for the rest of their lives, young women will possibly bleed uncontrollably for months (Years?), people will lose their businesses and the entire economy will go into the crapper." I already know what you would choose. You don't give a crap how other people will suffer, so long as you get those extra few days of life and the illusion of safety. I beg to differ on who is saying F*** everyone else.

Imma say it louder for the people in the back: You. Can't. Spread. Diseases. You. Don't. Have.

**sigh** How many times do we need to go over this before you stop JAQing off? Last time, since you don't seem to understand basics. If the government says 28,000 people have died of covid - it's already been proven to you over and over again that that number does not reflect reality. Many deaths being recorded as "covid" are not. They are people who are elderly and terminally ill who would have died shortly anyways, likely in the same year - proven by NO upsurge in overall death rates. Some deaths are not even remotely covid - such as the young boy with the brain tumor in Alberta that they only apologized for because they got caught fudging. So, YOU can't even tell us what the actual deaths are, nor list any sources. Knock off the JAQing. You're making yourself look really unintelligent.

Here's an example of the debate circle that I'm getting tired of: The PCR tests to determine "cases" have been shown over and over again to be faulty and incorrect. The information is sooooo easy to find as to why they should not be used to determine cases of covid. This means that A LOT of "cases" likely are not covid. I could sit here and explain to you why the PCR tests shouldn't be used, I could provide all kinds of sources from doctors, scientists, immunologists, epidemiologists, the inventor of the test himself - it all means nothing to some of you because MSM bleats out case numbers and Boges (and others) eat it up and refuse to even consider an opinion of these experts because they aren't fear-mongerers. But nope - here's Boges here every day bleating "case numbers". Case numbers don't even really matter. Death/Mortality/Fatality rates matter. But he never bleats out those - because they don't fit his narrative of "We're all going to die! Skyrocketing! SKYROCKKKKEEETTTTTIIIINNNGNG!" The way "deaths" are counted, very fraudulent. And has been used by the media and government to create division and fear-mongering. How you can't see this, I don't understand. Some of you here - it seems you WANT, NEED this to be something it's not. It doesn't matter how many times our government gets caught fudging numbers and cases and not reporting the vax deaths/adverse reactions - you want people to be dying, even if they aren't really. You revel in it. You love it. You are ecstatic that people are suffering. You can say No, but your attitudes show it. You love death and destruction and human suffering so you invent it. None of this means covid isn't real, or people haven't died from it. But I don't believe it's worth everything we have suffered - mentally, emotionally, financially, socially, economically - and will continue to suffer in the future, the division and hatred, the lies being told to the public and gobbled up by Boges et al. Some countries are waking up to reality. I really hope Canada does soon, too.

I choose not to most of the time, because it's a poor debating technique. And his questions often show he has a real lack of information and/or lack of intelligence and/or full of misinformation. And he has exhibited a true lack of desire to change any of that about himself. If it's not on MSM, it doesn't exist for him. Like the number of deaths and adverse reactions to the vax. Those mean nothing to him. Or you.

Oh, believe me, I totally "get" your stance on this. To "save" people who were likely going to die shortly anyways (this is why so many countries annual death rate has remained largely unchanged for the last 2 years), it is TOTALLY and 100% worth it to you to destroy the economy, destroy businesses that some families have spent a generation building up, mass job losses, children in masks, not playing sports, not socializing, living in fear and terror, the deaths from the vax, the people who have serious life-altering reactions to the vax, the total and utter chaos in society right now, loss of personal freedoms and human rights, Canadians literally hating on other Canadians for exercising a basic human right - all totally worth it to you. Your attitude is basically that the whole country and all it's people have to suffer and decline because of a flu that has a 99.5% survival rate and mainly is dangerous to elderly and terminally ill people, as all flus are. Why didn't you have this view all the other years?

Stats are from Stats Canada. Article is here: Comparing Total Deaths during Flu/Covid season - what do the numbers say? – Diverge Media Sorry, I meant to link but forgot. Not that it will matter to you. You don't give any consideration to anything that doesn't agree with your MSM brainwashing.

He does what they call "JAQ'ing off". It's an extremely poor debating technique, used when you don't have anything smart to really add and just want to intimidate your opponent into giving up the debate entirely.

Winnipeg Free Press, Oct. 16, 2021 Front Page Article "Bracing for the Storm" ".....roughly 10,000 out of 42,000 doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers" are prepared to lose their jobs, rather than take this jab. That's just one province. I guess this is part of the "consequences" that Aristedes keeps pointing out for others, but never himself. It appears you people are so pee-in-your-pants terrified of unvaccinated people that you'd rather have NO nurse looking after you in the ICU than an unvaxxed one. You'd rather have a shortage of organ donations (estimates are over 6000 now that have removed their names from the organ donation program in Canada) than let unvaxxed people go to restaurants. Enjoy your consequences.

Direct Comparison 2019 vs 2020 January deaths as a percentage of population 2019 – 0.07789% January deaths as a percentage of population 2020 – 0.06407% February Deaths as a percentage of population 2019 – 0.06504% February Deaths as a percentage of population 2020 – 0.07546% This is when many believe Covid began to circulate around the world. At this time we were unaware of the illness – therefore treating something that you’re not aware of could have slightly inflated the numbers. March Deaths as a percentage of population 2019 – 0.06831% March Deaths as a percentage of population 2020 – 0.06103% End of March governments in Canada began to speak of lockdowns as a way to “prevent” the spread of the Coronavirus. April Deaths as a percentage of population 2019 – 0.06365% April Deaths as a percentage of population 2020 – 0.06760% Slightly higher numbers of deaths as a percentage in April. This could be due to the poor handling of Long Term Care facilities in Ontario and Quebec that inflated the numbers early in the “pandemic.” Sending sick people into nursing homes of the most vulnerable populations isn’t a recipe for success. September Deaths as a percentage of population 2019 – 0.05836% September Deaths as a percentage of population 2020 – 0.03976% September – by this time we have learnt to deal with this virus better in our health systems and the numbers bear this out. We have seen deaths related to Covid drop compared to the initial early months when Covid first found it way into Canada. As we come back into Flu/Covid season we will again see death numbers rise – as is typical in any given Flu season. In our opinion these numbers don’t justify the draconian measures by our governments on both the Federal and Provincial levels. These measures will have a detrimental impact on the economy for many decades to come as we have amassed a massive debt during the rolling restrictions to combat Covid. Someone will have to pay the piper. In addition, the current policies don’t account for the effects on the social development skills of children and their affects on adults. The current narrative is one that has pitted Canadians against other Canadians – something truly unbefitting for a nation known for its kindness.

Oh, NOW underlying conditions can be taken into consideration. But NOT before everybody got vaccinated. Good to know.

The point is: What are ANY vaxxed people doing in the ICU? For a flu that has a 99.5% survival rate and 80% of the population have gotten the miracle vaccine that was touted as preventing covid......... See how THAT works?

I think this is part of why so many in medical are rebelling now. If you've worked in medical (I have) and understand how these things work (or don't work) you understand why masking is having such a negligible effect on spread.

CTV says the reason so many vaxxed people are in the ICU is because there's more people who are vaxxed than unvaxxed. Oh. I see. ?

Here's from your precious CDC: Effectiveness of Cloth Masks for Protection Against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 - Volume 26, Number 10—October 2020 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC The use of cloth masks during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic is under debate. In 2015, Deena Hinshaw testified in a couple of provinces regarding the effectiveness of masks. It was in regard to whether nurses should be forced to wear them in certain circumstances. Interestingly, her opinion at that time was that No, masks were not effective enough to warrant forcing them on the nurses. If you haven't read anything about this mask debate, it sort of tells me that you are largely misinformed about most things with this pandemic. I think because you only listen to MSM. I just proved you wrong on masks. Maybe it's you should stop spreading misinformation. I think it's because you only listen to MSM. I also think you don't understand medical language or technology very well.

If the old fella is at risk, then he should get the vaccination and/or stay home during flu season. Enough of this nonsense.

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Masks have been proven to be not effective. The only thing they are effective at is keeping the population in terror. It's a daily "reminder" that OMG! We're all going to die!