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Weird. I actually quoted the pertinent parts of the study. Try reading again, maybe?

Read the 87 studies that say otherwise and get back to me. There's lots in this thread. Late to the party again.

I don't agree with forced vaccination, but I know some feel that anything goes and the end justifies the means. If we fight against anything - it should be lockdowns. They should NEVER be allowed to happen again. Lockdowns were NOT common sense measures. They were hysterical reactions out of fear. Here are 15 of just some of the reasons why it was not common sense. (I’m not including all the reasons we have NOW to see they were a bad idea.) 1. Evidence was poor that COVID19 was doomsday in the first place. ~ Low IFR https://cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/… ~ R0 around 2.3 https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32097725 ~ Age distribution similar to flu https://x.com/jamestodaromd//JamesTodaroMD/status/1254475378795651072?s=20… ~ Hits those with significant morbidities. ~ Safer for the young than flu 2. Literature review prior to COVID19 had little good to say about shutdowns https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/329438/9789241516839-eng.pdf 3. Almost no awareness of the impact on civil rights, as if emergency declaration suspension of rights, house arrest, mass unemployment and business shutdowns is just something democratic governments sometimes do. 4. There was no historical precedent for putting the entire healthy population in "quarantine". Never. Before. This was common sense. 5. There are broad classes of physical distancing & other measures that can slow down infection spread, including organic responses from governmental urgings, shopping times for those with comorbidities, greater cleaning, etc. And nothing is obvious about which one works best. 6. Even if lockdowns in principle work, do real humans follow them sufficiently well that it remains better than other measures? Even our own "leaders" did not follow them. Almost half our Canadian parliament went on tropical holidays after locking down the rest of us. Boris Johnson, Neil Ferguson - the godfather of covid lockdowns, the recent news of Jay Varma of NYC having sex parties...... 7. Was the infection even discovered early enough that lockdowns would make much of a difference? 8. Might lockdowns handicap society on reaching herd immunity? Is this good, or bad? 9. Nor is it common sense that lockdowns, even if they handled the infection risks better than other measures, are best when the economic consequences are included. The economic consequences are not common sense. They are devastating, including health and quality of life. 10. Lockdowns can lead to people not seeking medical attention, raising mortality in other areas of medicine. 11. Lockdowns and the resultant economic downturn and loneliness can lead to depression, greater domestic abuse, alcoholism. Is it common sense that these are worth it? Nothing obvious about it. 12. Lockdowns lower everyone’s immune system. Does this make everyone more prone to ANY infection once they come out? 13. Lockdowns confine people together, and nearly all infections happen in such situations, not from grocery stores, restaurants, parks, etc. The mean reproduction number in such situations can be much higher. 14. Members of extended families tend to interact even during lockdowns. But because extended families overlap other extended families in a network, infection continues to spread. This could mean lockdowns worsened things. Common sense doesn’t tell us whether it’s faster or not. 15. The greatest low-risk black swan dangers for humans are the stuff other humans do. Riots, revolutions, wars, human-induced famine, and so on. Playing with civil rights en masse while devastating the economy -- what could go wrong? DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN.

Infection fatality rates for Covid for which we violated civil liberties en masse: 0.0003% at 0–19 years 0.002% at 20–29 0.011% 30–39 0.035% 40–49 0.123% 50–59 0.506% 60–69 0.506% Overall: 0–69 years 0.063–0.082% Or, around 0.07%.

Shouldn't this be going the OTHER way?

I very highly recommend EVERYONE watch the Green Slush Fund (SDTC) whistleblower testimony from Committee this last week. There is no way you can come away from that thinking anything other than this is the most corrupt government Canada has ever seen. I like the Northern Perspective channel, because while they do have a Conservative slant, they call out BS on all sides. They also use their channel to inform on how government works. (1036) Northern Perspective - YouTube Their coverage of the SDTC scandal has been outstanding. The whistleblower testimony is......seriously, this is THE scandal Canadians should be paying attention to. Hundreds of millions handed over to Liberal insiders and he names names. He has audio recordings and provided 300 pages of what he's seen, of which the Liberals redacted all but 7 pages.

No you don't.

87 studies and datasets from all over the world say otherwise. I'm going to go with science on this one. Personally I wouldn't see any doctor who didn't keep up with the latest studies or gave me false information. But you do you, boo.

Sounds like he doesn't keep up with medical science. It won a Nobel Prize in medicine for humans in 2015 and is on the Who's list of essential medicines for humans. I'm not sure why that's a "plus" in choosing a doctor for you.

Selective memory or purposely trying to rewrite history because you fell for the lies?

Still doesn't explain your rejection of over 80 studies on ivermectin use in humans for covid or your insistance that's it's nothing but horsepaste.

He was quoting the CDC. It was the whole reason for mandates and medical segregation. Only the vaxxed were allowed in restaurants because they couldn't get or give covid. Remember now?

For sheer memorability, I think Trump's "They're eating the dawgs. They're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people who live there." Makes him win the debate. 🤣 Did Harris say anything of importance that anyone remembers?

MP Mark Gerretson named names of those influencers accused of receiving money (in a now deleted tweet) and at least one of them is suing him for it.

You might want to check into that.

No one ever claimed the flu shots would cure or prevent the flu. The flu shot is not mRNA, it doesn't make your body continually create flu virus. Have you conveniently forgotten the claims that if you got the covid jabs, you'd never get covid or transmit it to others? I mean, that was the whole point of mandates.

I'm not sure what my claim that people have died from the jab has to do with ivermectin use. Or why my claim prevents you from admitting you're wrong.

And they come for the delicious felines 🤣

What a strange reason to continue lying......

So....you're just going to keep disseminating your anti-science lies on IVM?

One of the documented adverse effects from the jabbers is auto-immune illnesses, demyelination, small fiber neuropathy , which can often involve burning pain. Seeing reports of vax-injured people who experienced auto-immune issues, finding relief with IVM. This study looks at the impact of ivermectin on wound healing and the positive impacts peripheral nerve healing. NOTE: Study is from 2018, BEFORE the widely held and unscientific misinformation peddled by eyeball, robo, FakeFlyer and MoonFace, Hardner and others here that IVM is nothing but "horsepaste." Ivermectin Promotes Peripheral Nerve Regeneration during Wound Healing | ACS Omega The in-vitro experiments demonstrated ivermectin converts dermal fibroblasts into a glial-like phenotype, supporting neuronal growth. The scientists then used a dermal wound healing model in mice to show nerve repair with ivermectin. Ivermectin-treated wounds improved healing compared to controls. Additionally, the researchers researched the effects of ivermectin’s action on various ion channels and receptors, its potential for enhancing peripheral nerve repair, and its application in clinical settings. In co-culture experiments, hiNSCs exposed to ivermectin-treated fibroblasts showed increased proliferation and migration. In in-vivo studies, ivermectin-treated wounds demonstrated significantly smaller sizes compared to controls at days 8–9 and 11–12, indicating enhanced healing. Ivermectin-treated hDFs caused a significant increase in neuronal migration compared to the control group. This suggested that the treated fibroblasts were influencing the surrounding environment in a way that promoted neuron movement, which is essential for nerve repair. This is really something that could help people, and it looks like for burning pain with autoimmune nerve pain and damage, this could be what is helping people with long covid and covid injection injury. I've been posting some of the on-going research here with IVM in the hopes that ones like @eyeball will STOP promoting de-bunked anti-science lies. Astonishing that the FDA was legally forced to stop the lying but eyeball still persists....... Imagine his rage if he ever gets a condition or travels somewhere and is given a Rx for ivermectin!! 🤣

A year ago last September, Florida’s outstanding Surgeon General Joe Ladapo advised against mRNA vaccines in anyone under 65. Yesterday, the Florida Department of Health —one of the largest state-level public health agencies in the country— became the very first government health agency to advise against the shots regardless of age. Updated Guidance for COVID-19 Boosters for the Fall and Winter 2024–2025 Season (govdelivery.com) It advised Florida doctors against giving covid injections to anybody, not even medical fetishists: The FDOH continued by listing seven different categories of safety and efficacy concerns, including things like negative efficacy (making patients more likely to get covid), increased risk of an autoimmune disease, myocarditis, persistence of mRNA spike protein in the body (AKA long covid) Each category provided hyperlinks to the specific scientific studies. In related news: Moderna Stock Hits Lowest Since 2020. What’s Behind the Tumble. - Barron's (barrons.com) Moderna, is a mysterious multinational company that appeared out of nowhere in 2010, went public in a spectacular IPO in December 2018, setting the all-time biotech IPO record, with zero products, but several vaccine candidates in clinical trials, such as for flu, zika, cytomegalovirus, cancer, and coronavirus ( 🤔I know). Just as mysteriously, it then won one of the federal government’s three massively lucrative covid contracts a little over a year later, despite never getting a single product through clinical trials. The public explanation of how Moderna got a multi-billion dollar covid contract without any track record is, well.....ODD. Also ODD: Moderna had an “existing working relationship” with the NIH, particularly with..........Tony Fauci. None of Moderna’s other products in development in December 2018 have passed clinical trials. Not one. For some reason. Anyhooooooo, Moderna's plan to market mRNA cancer drugs is also receiving some backlash from scientists and researchers because the whole thing sounds fishier than the covid jabbers. "We’re going to force your cells to make tiny bits of cancer, all over your body, to teach your immune system to target any real cancer if it does come, which it might not."

Yes. My sister is permanently disabled from the vax, so I pretty much deal with it every day.

Alright, then. YOUNG cranky dude. I kind of always feel sorry for people who just go through life miserable. 😞

He seems like a really old, cranky dude. I don't think I've ever seen a not angry post from it. "Get off my lawn, you little whippersnappers!"