Boges

The show has reaches the point where Nucky is actually one of the less compelling character. Everyone loves the dude with half a face.

Why because you want someone to unilaterally impose huge tax increases to pay for transit while never ONCE! bringing the idea to the voters? The travesty here is that the Ontario Liberals started this money pit called Metrolinx that just serves to employ civil servants and has no ability to actually do anything. When Metrolinx, an organization that has proven multiple times they are not good stewards of the public purse, decides it needs $2 billion a year for transit, the public and opposition should have massive reservations about it. Quite frankly there's been an outright rejection of the plan. So the Liberals should: Scrap the plan? Call and Election to see what the GTA thinks of this plan? NOPE!!! Pay consultants generous salaries to do yet more consultations about an issue you've already paid an organization lots of money to come up with a solution for. It's like a dog chasing it's tail and ultimately nothing will be done. Ehealth 2.0.

Do you any numbers to suggest how much, doing those tasks in bold, take up an average firefighter in North America's day? And are all firefighters trained to do all these tasks?As for medical care. This is an interesting debate. The reason that firefighters often attend to medical calls is because laws say there needs to be a certain response time for fire calls that is quicker than that of EMS staff. So when a medical call comes in chances are the firefighter will beat the EMS staff there. Now if only EMS staff were stationed at the Fire Department that problem would be solved. I believe many places in the US do this: New York City is a popular example. Ever watch the show Third Watch? In Ontario, unions get in the way. Fire Department unions are very powerful. In Toronto, for example EMS staff are represented by the same union that represents the garbage men, while the the Fire Service has it's own union. Doesn't seem to make sense, they should be merged.

All that says to me is they have to find other things to occupy their time and justify their existence since the instances of fires requiring "fighting" are declining but they often demand pay increases inline with police.

Aren't Upper Body tests mostly based on body weight. For example benching your own weight, doing pull ups or push ups. I'm sure lot's of strong men can't pass police or military testing cuz they can't do that many chin-ups.

Was Von Ribbentrop consulted first?

What getting a cat out of a tree and beating Paramedics to a medical call didn't cross your mind?

Well like it or not, there is a double standard. You can't really accuse a woman of being sexist towards men. It's very difficult for a man to get authorities to step in when they feel they're being abused physically or mentally by another woman. We as men are just meant to suck it up.

Yeah but the New England Patriots are run by a bunch of Politically Correct Bureaucrats. :-D

Yeah. See all the girls that ruin their lives for willingly posting sexual images in the public forum.

BTW since we're on the topic. What about this story? http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/05/saint-marys-university-frosh-chant-about-underage-sex It's not the same but it shows an acceptance of sexism in a younger generation that I find quite alarming.

I think were all fooling ourselves if we, as males, don't sometimes find racist, sexist or even homophobic comedy funny. There was a Roast of James Franco on Comedy a few weeks ago and it was full of offensive material that, in Canada, could find one of us in front of a Human Rights Tribunal. But these guys published the material in the public forum making their identity well know. I don't think a "boys will be boys" defense applies. Again I think it's alarming that people can be terminated from their job for things they say off the job. But what these guys did showed very poor judgement. It's akin to posting provocative pictures of yourself on Facebook and not expecting blowback. It's a brave new world of the internet and who knows where it will lead. Because people say vile stuff on Twitter all the time. See the reaction to the new Miss America.

Good thing that fighting actual fires is becoming less a part of the job. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/how-firefighters-fan-the-flames-of-fear/article7445707/

What's "Jock-Talk" about anti-women jokes? Ironically Eric Cartmen and Dwight Schrute are some of the least macho fiction male characters in comedy. Both are cowardly bullies.

I already admitted, I kind of don't. The story I linked mentioned that the Force had started a program to diversity. It's not crazy to think that these "anti-women" tweets were a response to that, but there's no concrete evidence I've seen to indicate that. Either way it indicates these guys have anti-women opinions.

Just an anecdote of the climate in Quebec. Poll numbers would indicate there are many people who think and act like this man.

I heard a theory that the Province decided to propose such an unworkable unappealing Subway plan that when the City rejects it they can claim they tried to do something but the city doesn't want to play ball. The province's subway proposal will actually service far less people and it'll remove the current transit system for years. Also it's apparently not costed out properly. Glen Murray is such a windbag.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/09/18/transit_kathleen_wynne_names_panel_to_report_on_revenue_sources.html I think Wynne realized how woefully unpopular Metrolinx's revenue tool proposals are. She's punting this over to a panel to do more consultation. I predict we won't hear about this panel's findings until after the next election.

Well we don't know if these guys had been written up before or warned about behaviour unbecoming of a firefighter. If this was their first offense than perhaps I would agree that the termination was heavy-handed. But their must be some legal reason they can give for termination. Otherwise these firefighters can sue for improper dismissal.

No one suggested they can't do the job. These guys are getting fired for making their employer look bad in the public square by being sexist morons. The policy cited in media reports clearly states what they did was wrong. No confusion. Now should they have been fired? Perhaps not, we'll see if appeals work. Needless to say no woman will want to work with them anymore.

http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/3941269 Hope you're happy PQ.

I know these 2 for sure are quotes from popular culture. (The American Office and South Park) and are meant to offend. Not sure about the others.There was another post where one of them were mocking a women's use of the word "like" I believe. The fact that these guys posted these things out of context in a public forum, making their identity and employer known shows an immense lack of maturity and professionalism.

This is the conundrum of the internet, more specifically Twitter. Can anything you say online be used against you regarding employment? People use it to say offensive things and then wonder why there's blow back. Clearly the lawyers determined that these firefighters were in breach of contract or they wouldn't have fired the employees because as mentioned earlier. The appeal process unions go through trying to keep their members employed is extensive.

The first guy has a pic of him in his uniform as his profile pic, He's advertising the fact that he's a firefighter. Would you argue that the Mr. Lube employee was also just using his personal account? It's circumstantial but from the story in the OP I guess it's not a certainty that these guys were simply responding to a move by the employer to hire more women. But even if that's not the case, their posts clearly show an anti-woman slant. And apparently according to this Star article, it's against the guidelines of their employment http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/09/16/toronto_firefighters_axed_over_inappropriate_tweets.html

That clown had a picture of him in his firefighting gear. He was representing his employer while tweeting those things. If those posts were isolated thoughts that would be one thing, but they were responses to the Force's move to try and diversify the make-up of firefighters they employ. Do you think the Mr. Lube employee that got fired because he tweeted out a request for Weed and the police were monitoring and told his employer on him also deserved to lose his job? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pot-plea-on-twitter-costs-mr-lube-worker-his-job-1.1392866