WestCanMan

Lol. You think that just because you don't understand things I wrote that I don't know what I'm talking about? You think that just because you had to figure things out for yourself, with no positive direction from our PM, that he gets a pass? LMAO, that's idiocy. What is your connection between remote parks and hospitals all about? Are you theorizing that the majority of people in those areas got covid outside, and that it had nothing to do with all of their kids congregating in just 1 or 2 schools? Yet you're the guy who figured out this social distancing thing????? Why is it wrong to ban flights from a place with a deadly viral outbreak eyeball? Aren't you the guy who figured out this social distancing thing all by your lonesome????? Quick question, if you didn't want to get covid and you had to choose, would you socially distance yourself from a group of people that you knew had the covid-19 virus, or a group that most likely didn't? For example, would you great people arriving on flights from China at the airport in February 2020 or would you great people arriving from Russia back in December? This is super-easy eyeball. I just lobbed you a beachball question that even our PM would get right.

Trudeau to the rescue! Between increasing the carbon tax by 50% tomorrow, and giving himself an all our MPs a nice raise, I'm pretty sure we're saved.

Geez, it's like you're talking about the Demonrats, who were busy talking about Russian collusion and Ukrainian quid pro quo when the virus outbreak was starting, and who then attacked the POTUS for being a racist when he blocked travellers from China. Their focus still wasn't on covid during their debates.

I can't buy the notion that Trudeau thinks it's a scam, because he's hiding in his bed with his blankie.

You literally have no clue wtf you're talking about. The amount of sickness and death today has very little to do with actions taken on and since March 19th. We're still gonna hit a peak infection/hospitalization/death peak in the coming weeks based on the complete lack of restrictions that were in place on March 18th. We had done nothing before that point to slow the progress of the virus - noooooothiiiinnnnggggg. People practicing social distancing in 400 sq km parks are not a risk for spreading the virus. We should have shut down travel from china 45 days earlier so that we could have a life now.

Nope. If our preparations were adequate then our 400 sq km parks would be open and we'd have less deaths.

If we had over 4M people riding the subway in one city every day we'd be on a much higher pace, seeing as we took less precautions.

Just own up Marcus, ffs. You start off with "they both messed up", but the truth of the matter is that Trudeau and his equally useless team totally botched every single aspect of managing this outbreak right up until March 19th and our country was tanked at that point. Trump hadn't screwed up nearly as badly at the beginning of this. That's why Trudeau is copying Trump, and not the other way around. Aside from bad advice given out by the NYC mayor and public health officials, the US was better off than Canada from Jan 31st right up until this very second. It's the US, Trump, and Fox News that started covering the clinical success of anti-viral drugs vs covid. Not CBC, not CNN, not Trudeau. CNN did bash those drugs, and when some idiot died from eating fish tank cleaner because it's got Chloroquine Phosphate in it, members of the MSM blamed Trump, as usual. It's the FDA that's getting drugs tested and approved for public consumption, not Trudeau or any of our government agencies. When the lid comes off of this covid quarantine, and the Coward of the Country comes out from his basement, it will be because of actions taken by Trump and the FDA and our little village idiot won't have had a thing to do with it.

Did Trudeau really tweet that Canadians should turn off their tvs, computers etc? https://www.dailywire.com/news/justin-trudeau-gets-crushed-online-after-suggesting-canadians-turn-off-lights-tv-for-earth-hour-amid-coronavirus-quarantine I know that some of you guys follow his twit feed. 'Fess up.

The only person in this conversation who has cited proven actions taken by either leader is me. You're empty-handed and your mouth is going full speed, as usual.

The media's protection of Trudeau during this crisis is just unbelievable. He missed the opportunity to keep the virus out, he said the wrong things right up until March 19th, he stayed out of the country after the crisis started, then when he showed up he went straight into hiding, they never questioned why he didn't just get tested so that he could man up and be a leader instead of hiding under his blankie, and now they just act like it's no big deal that he has grabbed dictatorial powers. The bizarre part is that so may Canadians just buy into the gawking hero worship of Trudeau and the hyper-critical parsing of every phrase that Trump utters. Our country has been a gong show and now our PM and health minister, who have been complete idiots during this whole crisis, have virtually unlimited power. Truth. By declaring a health emergency our health minister has actual power to issue direct orders to the RCMP. She can order them to arrest you if you don't obey any order she gives out, and the penalties are massive. If those dumb bitches had done their jobs in the first place we wouldn't be in this big of a mess.

Wouldas, in this instance, just means copying Trump. Trudeau didn't have to invent social distancing, or border controls, he just had to have enough sense to realize that stopping the main path of the virus into the country was a good idea. Sorry if something happened to your panties, I just pray that I had nothing to do with it. I prefer if you just keep fantasizing about Trudeau instead.

What a liar. His adherence to scientific recommendations included leaving the main path of the virus open to our country, and telling us all that closing travel wasn't important. If you want, I can show you video of him saying that closing off travel was the wrong thing to do. It's racist lol.

Closing off travel from China and other places where the virus was rampant 45 days ahead of our PM was a really good one. Trump gets top marks for that, even if America wasn't successful in stopping the virus outbreak. FYI Boges things are absolutes. Social distancing works. Closing off international travel works. Quarantines work. Masks work. Washing your hands works. All of those things work or we wouldn't be doing them. Trump started 45 days earlier than Trudeau. Luckily he did. It definitely saved lives, because taking the prescribed precautions to stop the spread of a virus works. Countries closer to China than Canada is have their covid well under control because they closed their borders and took other precautions right away. Trudeau did the wrong thing, by checking absolutely none of the boxes on the anti-viral precautions list, we are just lucky that our population is so much more spread out that America's is or we'd be in a much worse situation. A big part of America's problem was the mayor of NYC and his top public health official telling people that they should just keep riding the subways, going to restaurants, etc. That's where the virus blew up in NA. There were about 30,000 cases there the last time I looked. "We got lucky" isn't a feather in Trudeau's cap. He was stupid, useless, he has been in hiding for almost 3 weeks now, and he was out of the country being an idiot before that. We have a graphics designer running the show on this health crisis, and our actual public health minister was even worse: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/the-road-to-canadas-covid-19-outbreak-timeline-of-federal-government-failure-at-border-to-slow-the-virus/ar-BB11N7dR?ocid=sf

Of course, why wouldn't I? All I can judge people by is the actions that they took, or failed to take. Trudeau did nothing this whole time but plan a spending $100 billion spree. He didn't close off routes for the virus to get into the country until we had to shut the entire country down, he didn't do a damn thing except say things like "shutting down incoming flights from covid hotspots is unnecessary, the risk to Canadians is low". March 18th: Visitors can fly into the country, walk through a crowded airport, they only need to self-quarantine if the mood strikes them, they can hop on our subways and skytrain, they can go eat at a buffet, no one is practicing social distancing.... it's all good. March 28th: Canadians face mandatory quarantine upon returning to the country or face a maximum $1M fine or 6 months in jail, restaurants are closed, schools are closed, all non-essential workplaces are closed, kids can't even play baseball outside, you can't even go for a walk in a 20 sq km park. Can you NAME ONE THING that Trudeau did to slow the progress of the virus into Canada before March 19th, when he finally just copied Trump 45 days later? ONE THING MARCUS. Just one thing.

Where in my post did you see that this is the time and place to buy some masks and stroll around? Congrats on winning your straw-man argument Boges.

It's bizarre how ready he was for the debate with Bernie, and yet he's so off-target the rest of the time. Makes ya wonder, was he on some kind of drug to keep him up for that debate with Bernie?

People here watch CNN and CBC and they hear a litany of ridiculous accusations against Trump, and then they hear Trudeau propaganda on CBC, and they don't engage their BS filter for even a second. Jan 31 Trump: "Tens of thousand of people in China have coronavirus. It spreads like wildfire and it has a very high hospitalization rate and a high death rate. I am banning people who have been to China in the past 14 days from flying into the US." Jan 31, CNN: "Trump closed down flights from China - RACIST!" Idiots, in unison: "Trump is racist, I just heard it on CNN!" CNN: "Look at the doctors behind Trump rolling their eyes. They think that he has done every thing wrong." Idiots, in unison: "Look at the doctors behind Trump rolling their eyes. He has done every thing wrong." Trump: "There's a drug that is widely reported to have had success in the fight against covid. It has been approved by the FDA for over 50 years. It has to go through some more clinical trials to prove it's efficacy against covid, but we think it could be a game-changer." CNN: "Trump is claiming that Chloroquine is the absolute final solution but it's not tested!!!!! People died because they self medicated and guess whose fault it is!" Idiots, in unison: "Trump is going against the doctors & science and people are dying because he's so wrong." Trump: "We are hopeful that the drug trials that are currently underway are successful. We have a goal of starting to get America back up and running at Easter." CNN: "Trump has stated that he will up the country at Easter, just to save Boeing. Hundreds of thousands of people will die. He's going to kill all the people that fought in WWII, Korea, and even the ones we hate from Viet Nam." Idiots, in unison: "Trump is choosing corporate America ahead of the lives of Americans. He's killing the veterans. Hundreds of thousands of people will be killed by Trump!!!!!!" Feb 2, CBC: "Trudeau isn't closing off travel from China and other covid hotspots because it's unnecessary. Trudeau is the best." Idiots, in unison: "Yeah banning flights is stoopid. Trudeau is the best!" Trudeau: "The risk here from coronavirus is low. We don't need to do anything." Idiots, in unison: "We don't need to do anything about covid." CBC, March 16th: "Trudeau just reiterated that closing off travel from covid hotspots is unnecessary. He says that international travel is a-ok and the risk of covid coming to Canada is still low. He's so dreamy." Idiots, in unison: "Trudeau is so dreamy." CBC, 3 days later: "International flights to Canada are banned. The country has so much covid now that it is now closed for business. Schools are closed. Outdoor recreation activities are cancelled. Our economy is basically collapsing, but Trudeau and Morneau have been planning a bailout pkg for a while now (that's literally the only thing that he has done this whole time - plan a spending spree). It's just a hundred billion now, plus unlimited spending for 6 months. Trudeau is saving us all." Idiots, in unison: "Trudeau is right, banning international travel is suddenly important today. He's the best. He is definitely saving us all. PLEASE TAKE ALL OUR MONEY. OUR CHILDREN WILL BE HAPPY TO LIVE IN POVERTY UNDER THE GREAT LIBERAL DREAM TEAM!!!" If you took the name Trump out, above, and wrote in Obama, what would CNN say? Would it still be racist to ban covid flights from entering the country? If you took out Trudeau, and wrote Harper in there, would the idiots above still say that Harper's "Risk from covid is low here" comment was just peachy?

100% wrong. NYC has over 10,000 people per sq km, you’re comparing them to Canada with 3 people per sq km. Over 4M people ride the NYC subway every day. That’s 10% of our population of our country, cramped together, all touching the same handrails, etc. NY State Public Health officials and NYC’s Mayor (All Demonrats) were telling people that it was safe to ride the Subway, go to schools, restaurants etc just last month. Trump was criticized for shutting down travel from covid hotspots 45 days before our own PM did it. You’re assigning blame to Trump because you hate Trump and for no other reason. Trudeau did absolutely nothing at all until he had to shut down our entire economy. Get a load of this: 10 days ago foreign visitors could fly here directly from covid central in China, waltz through our crowded airport, get on the skytrain and then go eat at a buffet. Nothing was stopping them. Today I couldn’t go to an outdoor park that’s 20 sq km (Pinecone Burke) because of covid. Retail outlets here are closed. Schools are closed. Our work is down by 75%. My kid can’t play baseball this year. HOW F’N DUMB IS THAT??????????? And in all this time you don’t have a bad thing to say about Trudeau? Your opinion is a totally biased joke.

If wearing masks reduces exposure then you can certainly predict a reduction in the spread of the virus. Re: viruses trapped in water droplets, exposure to UV light will kill most of them while they’re hung up in a mask. The net effect of less viruses entering the sinus cavities of millions of people reduces the spread of infection.

A “foreign army”? Is going abroad to be a bigot, commit genocide, drown people, immolate them, torture people and force women and young girls into rape slavery the same as defending France from the Nazis? Are thise two things even comparable? That is completely disgusting. You are a really sick puppy.

Theories abound. I think there's a 1% chance that we ever know the truth about how the virus got out. What did they know on the Simpsons back in '93?

I don't know if this is legit or not, it's going around FB. CBC, Global, Rebel News and CTV aren't reporting on this, and I don't know if these are fake sites or not: https://www.canadapolicereport.ca/2020/03/27/threats-and-incitement-of-hatred-against-prime-minister-and-general-population-arrest-of-an-individual-in-hemmingford-quebec/ https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/202003/27/01-5266774-menaces-contre-justin-trudeau-arrestation-a-hemmingford.php I'm not fluent in french but theoretically he says something about an axe. If this is legit, what's a realistic penalty for this? The people who flew to Syria to commit genocide and to force young girls and women into rape-slavery have been sentenced to poetry lessons. Should a person who made a FB threat face a more serious penalty?

"Escaped". This virus helped the Chinese government get rid of some octogenarians (remember they were getting rid of unwanted babies just a decade ago), it's helping to destroy the economies of America and Canada, and it helped China to get the MSM of America to share their Chinese government propaganda. If the virus escaped it was extremely fortuitous for China. I bet they wish that they thought of it themselves.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2020/03/25/photo-chart-shows-how-terrible-the-trudeau-liberals-coronavirus-response-has-been/?fbclid=IwAR3TgMMPFDmdUjitHYkoRCRqAlzxzvVdKdPtFhYcwZMlHz2MFewMlw2eTNM Here's a chart that shows how Trudeau did nothing, did nothing, did nothing and then did nothing for a bit longer until all of a sudden this was a crisis which required unlimited spending powers for the government.