WestCanMan

Wrong. The worldwide death toll is at 344,000 right now, we're only 6% of the way to 5M. This is not "biblical proportions". And let's be honest, of the 344,000 that died of coronavirus, probably 300,000 of those people would have died this year anyways. I'm not calling it a cleansing, but I'm definitely saying in no uncertain terms that one "octogenarian with diabetes and heart disease" death is not equal to one "24 yrs old, just got out of college and recently engaged" death. One is normal, one is gut-wrenching and leaves whole families in mourning for decades. Both my grandmas lived to be over 85 yrs old, one lived to 96. They both told me that they were "ready to go" once they were into their '80s. They both had a son that had already died, their husbands were dead for 20 years, their siblings were almost all dead, friends were dead, and they couldn't really relate to the young people in their families. My oldest grandma lived on the prairies without electricity or gas until 1955. She was almost 40 by that time. She had a lot of family and friends die in WWII. She was a great lady, but her life experience was so vastly different from everyone left around her that she had no one left that she could really relate with. I can promise you that at a certain point, people are just ready. This is bad, and it's sad that a lot of people died before they were ready, but this is definitely not of biblical proportions. As an example, 140,000 Japanese died in the great fires of 1923. That's whole families mostly wiped out, including cousins, aunts and uncles, grandparents, babies, teens, toddlers... Some of the people who survived could honestly be thought of as "unlucky". If you were a mom and you lost your sisters, husband, kids, nieces and nephews would you really want to live? If they saw some of them die, or succumb to their injuries after the fire was gone? That's "biblical proportions." This is puppyshit by comparison. Sorry but it just is. I get that we have a responsibility to do the right things to protect the vulnerable now, and I'm happy to wear a mask when necessary to do that, but the current iteration of covid is not comparable with the major plagues any more than the common cold is comparable with stage 4 cancer.

It's widespread, but it's not like the Justinian plague or the black plague. It's highly surviveable.

LMAO. There are lies in it, and fables like "All of our cases came from the US, not China". This is reality, it's not an echo chamber for Liberal platitudes. Dr Tam already fell on her sword to pr0tect Trudeau. She admitted that we should blocked travel earlier and we should have been wearing masks. The gig is up.

No true at all. People could voluntarily self-isolate, they were only required to self-isolate if they had symptoms. That was the case right up until March 16th. The only mandatory quarantines, across the board, were for people coming into Canada after March 16th, so it basically only applied to Canadians. Pretty much everyone chose not to. It's not JT's fault that they followed basic human nature, but it's JT's fault that they were allowed to come in the first place. He was virtue-signalling again when Canadian lives were at risk. 6,000 Canadians died because of it. Liar. There's absolutely no proof of that whatsoever, and it's a completely stupid notion to begin with. We had people from the world's foremost covid hotspots like China, Italy, Spain, France and everywhere else flying in, unscreened, and free to roam anywhere in the country. I can't emphasize strongly enough how unfounded and utterly stupid this comment is. Again, this is just stupidity. It's well known across all of North America that Roxham Rd is the "home free" line, because our PM broadcasted that to the world. When the PM of a country tells foreigners that they can just waltz in, people who want to do that will do that. Your complete lack of understanding of the world and people is on display here. Totally makes sense. The stuff was good enough to use in January, but by February it was all complete garbage. (just kidding, that was dumb AF)

Step away from the ledge!

I used to wonder how people got so sucked in that they could follow the Nazis, but now that I see how they blindly follow the Nanzis it all makes perfect sense. They can't be reasoned with. They want to believe the Nanzis so badly that they gained the ability to block out any facts that don't support their narrative. Probably the worst was when they blamed the Pulse Nightclub shootings on gun laws and Republicans. Illegal guns, and a guy yelling the muslim terrorist anthem, but that's somehow all on the GOP lol.

They know that their only defence is a hyped-up offence. As soon as they're accused of something which they know they're guilty of, they do a full-court press on Trump to distract the information away from the actual crime. "YOU'RE IGNORING TRUMP'S HUGE CRIME! YOU'RE A DUMMY!!!!!" "BIDEN WAS ALREADY INVESTIGATED BY THE DEMS!!!! THEY SAID HE'S CLEAN!" "BIDEN AND HIS SON BOTH SAID THAT THEY'RE INNOCENT!!! WHAT MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY NEED!" "WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE FACTS???? ON CNN THEY DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF BECAUSE IT'S UNIMPORTANT!!!"

There's no difference between saying "Black people like fried chicken, and black people aways vote Dem" imo. They're both stupid, they both make the assumption that all black people are entirely unable to make their own choices or think for themselves. It's the kind of thing that proves that Biden is inherently a bigot, he just doesn't understand what it is about his beliefs that makes him one.

Cite?

There's no excuse for that level of stupidity coming out of a University that's right in Manhattan. They should be well aware of all the bad advice they got from their Mayor, public health official and governor. One of the biggest contributors to the covid death toll in the US was Cuomo's decision to put 4,300 recovering covid patients back in the care homes. Was this an effort in euthanasia? https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ap-count-4300-virus-patients-ny-nursing-homes-70825470 If NY State care homes were a country of their own they'd be a world leader (13th) in covid deaths but that doesn't include care home residents who were sent to hospitals and died there. https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/new-york-state-coronavirus-deaths-nursing-homes-update-20200505.html There were 4,813 between March 1 and May 5, that's more than China (unless they're lying, which is highly likely), and I can't emphasize strongly enough that the number would be much greater if it included the deaths of care home residents who passed away after they were sent to the hospital. They could be as high as 5th. There's no way of knowing right now. Trump shut down travel from China when there were just a few covid cases in the US and he started shutting down the country when there were less than 100 deaths. You can't say that he under-reacted. Those were big steps. The bottom line is that with the benefit of hindsight, we can clearly see that the number of covid deaths is inversely proportional with how quickly each country banned travel and how many of their citizens wore masks. Countries that banned travel from covid hotspots and told their citizens to wear masks absolutely smashed covid. Countries that didn't do those things were hammered by covid. Canada was the worst of the worst on those two topics. If you found an actuary, virologist or even just a grade ten math teacher somehwere in the world who didn't have a clue what Canada's death toll was, and you told them that Canada didn't ban travel and that they told their citizens not to wear masks, and that we didn't start talking about social distancing until March 16th every single one of those people would be able to predict Canada's lofty position on the death toll charts Canada has a massive death toll considering that we have universal health care, a low population and even lower population density. We should be approximately 50th to 80th based on the population numbers alone. There's absolutely no room left for debate on the issue of whether or not our government failed, or even how badly they failed. They ran the ball into their own end zone and left it on the ground for team covid to pick up.

This is just stupidity, or trolling, it’s not worthy of comment either way. If you haven’t noticed Trudeau’s dictatorial tendencies then there’s something wrong with you. Buying the MSM and instituting government regulation of social media were just a start for that piece of crap.

It’s pretty bad when Trump is smart enough to figure out that he needed to block travel from China and our entire government, plus our scientific and medical communities weren’t even smart enough to follow suit. Dr Tam finally admitted that we should’ve close the borders earlier but it’s of little consequence now to all the people whose family members died as a result of her blatant stupidity. We all knew Trudeau was that stupid, we needed Dr Tam to step up.

LMAO, too true. Although I have had my "moments" with scientific and mortgage calculators.

Just under 60% of eligible voters usually vote federally in the US. If half of those people vote for Biden, and half of them vote for Trump (as with almost every normal election) there will still be enough unused votes left from eligible voters to get someone else elected. Sure, you could check on every single American to see if they voted twice, and if you find out that 20M people voted twice what do you do with that info? Which of their votes do you discount? How do you find out exactly who committed the crime? What percent of the people who commit this crime will likely get caught? I didn't say that it would be super easy for the average Joe to do this, but it could be doable. It's much more doable than appearing in person with valid gov't-issued id a hundred times. It's also easier to catch a person showing up in person, and they'd have committed the crime of creating fake ID, and identity theft as well. Just to submit ONE extra vote. Worth it? I think not. Ask yourself this: would the party who created the fake dossier and gotten the FBI slimesters to conduct a fake investigation for 3 years create a few thousand fake mail-in votes in swing states to try to cheat to win an election? Hint - the correct answer is of course they would. If they caught EVERY SINGLE PERSON who ever committed voter fraud you'd have a point. With the system of showing up and voting, certain types of fraud are really hard. With mail-in voting, mass fraud is easy. By coincidence, I've already dropped off 6,300 pieces of mail today and it's 12:35 here in BC. What if someone hacks into the computer that generates mail-in ballots and copies the format for generating QR codes? What if someone leaks it to their Bernie Bros, their brilliant Trump supporter friends, or their bumbling Biden buddies?

Well, to be honest, if you know how to interpret that graph, and what it truly means, it's basically just a colorful nothing as far as this topic is concerned. I could compare Greenland to Canada on a graph too. It would be equally worthless. We're far enough along the curve to know what's up right now dialamah. We've come to the stage where our preparedness and early actions have resulted in a certain "order of magnitude" of casualties and deaths. We have set the course for the future, based on how widely the virus managed to spread in our various countries. Canada got covid spread far and wide. That's no small task with 10M sq km to cover.

The comparison to the US really works for some people here because it's a totally misleading comparison, and that's what people are looking for. A chance to make Trudeau look good by providing a comp that is totally misleading. The countries are the same size, geographically close, the culture is similar, so on the surface the comp looks valid. A quick look at the NY metropolitan area vs Canada blows that theory out of the water though, so people here choose to ignore it.

Sidearms actually are a popular line of defence against bears. You can get a permit to carry a handgun around if you work up north and hike a long way like a geologist, etc. In that type of situation you don't necessarily want to carry a big rifle with you all day, knowing that you'll almost never need it. It's much easier to strap on a big-bore pistol, and they're closer to hand. Are they particularly useful? Tough to say. I haven't heard a lot of stories of pistols not working, or actually working. I get that a bear could fight his way through a .44 if they wanted to, but wild animals don't get to run to a Dr after they get hurt, so they don't typically take any more damage than they have to. That's why an animal like a mountain lion, which could easily kill a human, prefers to hunt and kill smaller things like rabbits, or animals like fawns or does with no serious defensive physical accoutrements. The way I look at it, wrestling bear cubs even though you're packing a .44 would almost certainly get you killed, but if you're walking across an open field and a bear becomes interested in you as prey, and you fire a .44 past them, they will probably figure out what's best for them.

There are voting scandals in the US every election year. Over 1,200 PROVEN cases, and they certainly don't catch 100%. There's not much chance that they catch 50%, there's a good chance that it's lower than 10%, it could be as low as 1/100,000 for all we know. There are a lot of people counting ballots who have a very strong bias and very low morals. The whole point of this election exercise isn't to continually make it easier and easier to cheat.

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What's to stop a rotten candidate form printing 20,000 mail-ballots and combing the phone book for names and addresses? How hard is it to do that vs to scam by having actual voters show up at polling stations carrying id?

You're going back to this clueless tripe? Canada has the world's 40th largest population, we're 200th in population density, and we're top ten in deaths from covid. By what fucking metric are we "Closer to the best????????" (39th, 187th 11th to be precise). It's debatable if we are the worst country on the planet. The US only has 15x as many covid deaths as we do, but they have 9x our population and population density. They also have the UN in NYC, which is one of the most densely populated places on earth. Nice of you to understand how people sometimes try to corner you into the prison of two ideas when that's not applicable, but I don't appreciate that you're insinuating that I'm an extremist or that I'm being intellectually dishonest. FYI, in this case, it's absolutely applicable to make it a "one or the other" question, because there were only two possible courses of action involved. There wasn't a 3rd course of action, get it? The government said "Don't wear masks". Now they say wear masks. What's the 3rd option genius? They never offered one. They didn't even say masks are optional they advised us NOT TO USE THEM. Was that right, was that wrong, or do you have a 3rd option that nobody else sees? Banning travel was either right, or it was wrong. If it was kinda right, then why don't we kinda have it now? What 3rd option would you like in this scenario dialamah? These are really easy questions that an entire kindergarten class could get 100% on. I understand that you don't like being put in a position where if you tell the truth you incriminate yourself, but the fact is that this is your just desserts for lying to begin with. Everyone in the country knew that leaving travel from China, and then Italy, etc, was incredibly stupid. You knew it. You pretended, along with Trudeau and his toadies, that somehow it made sense. They've finally admitted that they were wrong. You're still holding out. You talked about the tricks of extremists and then you post a logarithmic scale and leave it in the fine print. Most people won't interpret that graph correctly and that's why people like you choose it, to misrepresent Canada's covid problem. If we do a fair comparison of Canada covid cases to Japan covid cases: Japan had less than 20,000 cases and less than 800 deaths. Canada had 5x as many cases and almost 8x as many deaths. One in 470 people got covid in Canada, one in 6,200 Canadians died of covid. One in 6,300 Japanese got covid. One in 158,000 Japanese died of covid. We had 13x the per capita infection rate and 25x the per capita death rate of Japan, yet they have 84 times our population density. The entire population of Canada is in the Tokyo metropolitan area. If Japan just had our per capita death rate they'd have 20,400 deaths. That's 19,600 extra deaths. THIS DOESN"T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THEY HAVE 84X OUR POPULATION DENSITY!!!!!! If Abe followed Trudeau's model for "fighting" covid the death toll in Japan would be off the charts. Here's a fairer comp of Canada vs the US from Maclean's magazine:

It's all quiet on the alt-left front tonight. What's going on? Are they all laying low because Trudeau and his lackeys were admitting to killing Canadians ad our economy with their blatant stupidity? Is it because Cuomo is getting busted for laughing about his bout with covid or whatever he did? I almost want to watch CNN and Global to see what's up.

It's funny that Dems were so upset about election interference in 2016, yet they want to set up the easiest election-rigging scenarios ever with no-ID voting and mail-in ballots. If you're a mailman and you walk up to a house with a VOTE FOR X sign on the lawn, and you hate X, what are the chances that the mail-in-ballot from that house slips into the round file? Americans get 1 vote, but if you're a mailman you can take the votes away from hundreds of people if you have a mind to.

Quick summary - the Prez can appoint anyone as VP if his VP resigns or vacates the position for whatever reason. They don’t have to have been elected anywhere. The House and and Senate just need to approve it. Biden won’t last 4 years, that much is certain. There is a clear lane for the power behind the Dems’ throne to get an unelected American in the WH. Only the VP stands in the way if they can win control of the Senate. They can easily find a VP who agrees to step aside. Its no stretch to say that an unelected American could be Prez by 2022.

Juxtapose the content of your post into a crowded airport, with passengers arriving from Wuhan and Milan on Feb 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and for yet another 29 days before travel was finally banned. And just remember that as per the instruction of our government, people weren’t wearing masks that whole time. Our government has finally admitted that they made a mistake to tell people not to wear masks, and to leave international travel open this whole time. What about you? Do you think that international flights should be pouring in right now, allowing travellers from all over the world to come into our crowded airport? Do you think that people should be in that confined space without wearing masks? Or do you think our government completely failed us? I’ve been aware of this since Jan 31st. At what point will you admit that our government bombarded us with covid, causing thousands of deaths and ten$ of billion$ of damage to the economy when so many other governments around the world were actually protecting their citizens from the pandemic? Places like Taiwan and Japan had specific travel bans, not complete travel bans like our government insisted was “the only way!!!” Either you agree with me that Trudeau screwed us, or you think the airports should be going full bore right now. There’s no 3rd option.