WestCanMan

Too true, and that's the most ironic thing I've ever seen. My sense of humour wants to kick in but it's overpowered by disgust.

Waldo it's so funny to see you trying so hard to be the ultimate liberal while defending a culture that is diametrically opposed to every liberal belief known to man.

Waldo, did you think that they were going to try and get full-blown sharia law established across Canada when they were less than 10% of the population? The point is that after living here all this time and becoming familiar with our laws, and knowing the inequity in their old system of laws they still wanted to get as much sharia as they could. It shows a terrible lack of character and liberal values to try and gain a foothold for such an abysmal code in North America. That would be like rolling the clock of civilization back at least 500 years.

Muslims in Canada have already asked for Sharia law. cyber- you don't know much about Islam. The Quran is based on the revelations of Mohammed. The Hadith is basically his accepted biography. His interpretation of the Koran, his interpretation of the muslim way of life is the gospel for muslims. I challenge you to go learn about Mohammed and then decide whether he was the peaceful man you seem to think he was..

It was a failed attempt to mitigate the damage to the reputation of the perpetrators. You're trying awfully hard to swing some of the blame from the rapist to the victim. No, I was asking for proof that the north Africans were going to be held in a state of jobless limbo forever. That would be reason for some form of rebellion (raping women isn't a recognized form of rebellion though). If it wasn't going to last forever, then they should have been happy to have free food and shelter in the interim.

You're late to the "admitting that there's even the slightest problem" party.

I read this much of your post, no need to go on any further. You just basically equated any vote against an open-door policy is equally racist. Are you for real or just trolling?

The classic "they were bored so they went out and committed some sexual assaults" defense. Those sexual assault cases will undoubtedly be thrown out of court. Do you have a link to prove that this "perpetual period of boredom" was going to last for their entire lives?

You're awesome at denying the damage of real actions here and instead switching the topic to sentence structure and url's, I think you must be an actual politician. Everyone in this thread understands exactly how many crimes were committed by a population of exactly x amount. What stats could you possible need to help you get things in perspective? Do you actually need someone to compile a statistic to tell you how many sexual assaults a community of 1M people should commit in one night? Noone's going to find that for you waldo. If you can't just grasp the magnitude of those events from your own understanding then the topic is quite plainly over your head.

I win. /thread

Wrong waldo. You are sitting at a computer, connected to the internet, with access to google, dictionary.com, wiki and 1,000 other tools and you managed to completely botch the definition of a common word in your primary language. 'Gratz.

Cybercoma I want to congratulate you on being a fine liberal person. Honestly I do. A big part of our culture is accepting decent people from all walks of life and I can tell that it's really important to you. Here's the deal though. You don't even like your fellow Canadians for what you think is their conservatism; you think that "conservatives" here are on the opposite end of the spectrum from you and "we're" not. We might not be 100% as liberal as you are but all Canadians are practically joined at the hip compared to most world views from abroad. The difference between libs and cons on this issue just boils down to this: your liberal belief is that all humans are identical and that they can all make fine Canadians and we actually all agree on that. Race is no issue here at all. Where we differ is that you believe that religions and cultures are all equally liberal in nature. I ask you this: were Jesus and Mohammed both liberals?

Sept 11 2001 was a bad day for plane crashes of the seemingly intentional variety. Do you need a stat to prove that? Dec 7 1941 was a bad day for ships at anchor in the pacific ocean in their home port. Do you need a stat to prove that? Dec 31 2015 was a bad day for cities experiencing sexual assaults out in the street. Do you need a stat to prove that? If you want to take the position that events like Dec 31 occur frequently on this planet then the onus is on you to provide a cite to back that up.

You're seriously calling what happened in Europe "the actions of a select few"? Do you have the slightest clue what level of crime that represents from such a small population?

Dialamah the deal here is that the small minority in one group, the pedo's sneaking off across the vast expanse of the Pacific ocean, is about 1/100th of one percent of the population. The rest of the population is upset about it and serious about criminal charges for thse people. Laws here were enacted to make their overseas indulgences crimes with very long sentences. The minority in the other group is not nearly as small. And what they are doing is not looked down upon to the same extent either. Large groups of people do it because it's considered no big deal. Raping girls isn't a big deal over in the middle east, especially if the girls are non-muslims. Do you think that it would make a bit of difference if a group of muslim men harassed/groped a western woman walking through the streets of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, and on and on...? Leaders in those muslim communities marry extremely young girls and even have boys as toys. They don't go to jail for that, they are not frowned upon. Girls who don't accept the orders from that families commonly have acid thrown on them, or are burned with kerosene and even that is not considered a crime. The prophet Mohammed married a 6 year girl and had sex with her at 9. To this day 14 yr old brides are still dying in child birth. Don't compare what is tolerated over there to what is tolerated over here. It's ridiculous. Being a muslim isn't a crime, but stop acting as if the cultures in those countries aren't as backwards as they're being made out to be.

You're stretching so far to make that point, which isn't even a point, that it's ridiculous. On one hand there are few large groups of men from a relatively small population all doing something together, with no backlash from their own community. And it happened in 3 cities on the same night. To you that doesn't represent any sort of a pattern or a problem whatsoever from that community. On the other you have just a few loners slinking away from a massive group of people to fly thousands of miles to do something at great expense because they know that their own community will put them in jail. To you that population is similar to the 1st in some way? I wanna pull my hair out reading your posts.

So one liberal mp committed fraud? It's a little hard to have so many candidates run and make sure that not a single one is a fraudster,> I don't think that can be held against the whole party. When I voted my name got crossed off the list, and 300 extra votes is a lot in a station where there were less than 600 names of eligible voters on the list. Can they really be over by 50% from just "a few honest mistakes"?

Do you have a crystal ball eyeball? Can you sit at your computer desk and discern the truth from 8,000 miles away? Or are you just suffering from delusions of grandeur?

Did you just admit that there was such a thing as a cultural difference, while still trying to act like you're not a racist? Why do you get the benefit of a double standard here?

Osama can suck it if there's a hell. Humans get involved and help other humans. The middle east is just another place on earth where there are humans, there's no imaginary line in the sand where humans should have to say "nope, it's just muslims killing other muslims. None of our biz".

I made my point that we shouldn't have been blindly supporting the Israelis no matter what atrocities they committed for all these years in my first 30 posts here. I even sent a letter to my my MP back when Harper was the chief. That's another story. I find it ironic that you try so hard to prove that we should treat these people from the middle east like fellow humans and receive them without hesitation here but at the same time you say that they aren't our fellow humans so we should let the more powerful groups over there massacre the weaker ones. Which one is it bigguy? It's a difficult situation when you have to make the decision to kill people or deny those displaced by war a safe haven. Here's an idea or two: 1) There are humans in the middle east who need protection. If we can help them we should. 2) There are a lot of people there who like nothing more than massacring innocents, we should be very selective of who we allow across our border. 3) 400,000 Christians were chased out of Syria by these friendly muslims just a while back. Where was the hue and cry? 4) Some people try so hard to be more politically correct than anyone else that they throw common sense and objectivity out the window in favour of a blind obsession with standing on soapboxes expressing the most liberal viewpoint they can dream up at every turn. I don't have much respect for those kinds of opinions, I don't think those people do enough research or put enough actual thought into the things that they say.

Do you actually know what makes people join Isis now BigGuy? What made them follow all the other killing sprees over the last 1,500 years on all the various continents? Was that D Trump too? Is D Trump a weally weally good reason for them to blow up some more people? News flash, those idiots say "we're coming to America to Kill you" all the time. Isn't it prudent at some point to say "hmmm, if they're telling us that they are coming here to kill us, shouldn't we try to stop them from coming over here and killing us? Or is that racist?" Canadians have done peacekeeping all over the world. Are you saying we should just leave the kurds to face Isis all by themselves, just like we let Saddam gas them while we did nothing? Or should we stay out of it because we're not muslims? We should only protect other white christians hey big guy? But, but, but... wouldn't that make us racists too? This is soooo difficult!!! I think that no matter what we do we're just racists for either doing something or not doing anything. First they came for the kurds and I wasn't a kurd so I did nothing. Then they were happy so they didn't even kill the jews. Is that how it goes? I think you're the history expert. All I know is that all cultures are identical, you taught me that.

Is it fair to assume that anyone holds a certain opinion about homosexuality or homelessness based on their view of Islam? Are you 100% certain that there are no gay Islamophobes? I mean, why wouldn't gays be afraid of Muslims? You know what Muslims do to gays right? Or did I just make a racist comment, despite the fact that I'm talking about a culture, not a race, and the fact that it's true.

Some of our "sunny days gang" need to go over to those countries and explain to them that every culture on earth is identical, and that they are being racist. I think it's been proven here that race and culture are the same thing.

Oh riiiiiiiight. Our main concern is people on the other side of the Atlantic who are going to float over here on giant rafts and then quickly assemble tanks and fighter planes once they get here. Kinda like Hannibal, because noone would ever expect it. Thanks for alerting me to the danger big guy.