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Well, CBC sure as hell didn't tell him, because they wouldn't touch that story with a ten-foot pole. Rosemary Barton could get the jab, die 2 minutes later, be revived and live for only 5 minutes while hooked up to life-support, and in that 5 minutes she would take the time to lie about the safety and efficacy of the jabs, or she'd ignore the topic of covid and vaccines altogether and talk about how the poor leadership of the conservative opposition was and how much it was harming the country.

It's not just the fact that they're under-reporting this that matters, it's that they intentionally withheld the truth while they knew that it was costing children's lives. These guys were checking off the "death by covid" boxes like they were popping Pez - even the slightest bit of evidence that someone may have had covid within 2 weeks of their death was enough to certify a death as "by covid" - but dying within hours of the jab was always disregarded as "coincidental, pending further review", which basically meant "after the second coming of Christ". Remember the protection of the Prep Act, which stated that "malicious intent" was the minimum standard that had to be proven in order for a lawsuit to be successful? Well, imo, a class action lawsuit stating that "the intentional withholding of information about the health risks posed to children by the vaccines and the exaggeration of the necessity of vaxing children against covid, amount to the intentional killing of children." That's malice. Intentionally killing someone is malice. If they wanna argue that they killed the children for profit instead of maliciously, that's gonna leave a mark. But, at the time they finally started vaxxing children (Nov 2021 in Canada), the stats were already out there showing that 1) kids didn't need a vax, and 2) the vaccines were not slowing the spread. Malice. Done. Big Pharma faces an out of court settlement or they go out there and litigate the inexplicable truths under oath, with court-documented evidence and expert testimony, in front of the world.

Just grow up and look at the facts, User. Indisputable facts, which you have never challenged. And FYI saying "Pfizer's lab tests say they actually worked!!!!" isn't challenging anything. Death stats and hospitalization stats are where the rubber meets the road, buddy, and the jabs are roadkill. We FORCED Canadians who didn't even need protection from covid to take the jabs, based on all the lofty promises of vaccine safety and efficacy. That's a fact. In the end, we now know that the jabs: stop the spread of covid slow the spread of covid prevent people from getting sick prevent people from going to the hospital prevent people from going to ICU prevent people from dying don't kill people don't permanently damage the hearts of young people ^^Those^^ are all the vax-promises that we heard, on which we based our decision to force-vax our youth. Here's what we actually got from our forced-vax campaign in Canada: We set a huge record for covid deaths in 2022 almost 90% of the covid deaths in Canada in 2022 were from the m-vaxed whether you want to admit it or not we set a massive record for hospitalization time and ICU time in 2022 the jabs killed people the jabs injured people so badly that they suffered for years before they opted for death the jabs permanently injured the hearts of young people who didn't need the jabs but were forced to take them ^^Those^^ are all the vax-outcomes. 100%, certified, guaranteed facts. Like it or not, User, there are 8 facts up top and 6 facts in the second part which are all 100% proven by HEALTH CANADA'S OWN STATS. Those stats form the absolute basis for determining vax success or failure, and in every instance, the jabs score zero percent. 0.00000%. It's not just a failure, it's abject failure. Total failure. A complete and total lack of success. Get it? I posted the Health Canada stats here, I put links to their stats in this thread, and you have no posts or links that counter any of it. Not a single one. You actually have NOTHING but ad hominem attacks and appeal to authority arguments. And guess what, the people at the peak of the "authorities" that you're citing in your lonely "secret lab tests" narrative were caught LYING TO US about vax safety and efficacy, and you know that. R Woleknski (head of CDC) and A Fauci (head of NiH) are both on video saying in no uncertain terms that "if you get the jab you don't have to worry about getting sick and you don't need to worry about giving covid to granny". NEWSFLASH: Pfizer and Moderna both said that they never made those claims - Fauci and Wolenski either made that up, or Pfixer and Moderna lied to them and then left them holding the bag, but please tell me that you're at least intelligent enough to understand that the jabs didn't stop the spread or prevent sickness...

I hate to copy and paste something to this extent, but left4rds here were pretending that Carney never lied about his role in moving Brookfield, so here's the definitive answer, from Chat GPT. Q: Did Mark Carney lie about his role in moving Brookfield's HQ to NY? A: Good question. Here’s a breakdown of what we know so far — and why many people conclude that yes, Mark Carney appears to have misled the public about his role in Brookfield Asset Management (BAM) moving its head office from Toronto to New York. ca.news.yahoo.com+2ca.news.yahoo.com+2 ✅ What’s on record The board of BAM — of which Carney was Chair — approved the relocation of Brookfield’s head office from Toronto to New York in 2024. ca.news.yahoo.com+2Yahoo+2 A public announcement from Brookfield, dated October 2024, confirmed the head-office shift. ca.news.yahoo.com+1 A letter to shareholders, signed by Carney on December 1, 2024, explicitly urged them to support the move. ca.news.yahoo.com+2ca.news.yahoo.com+2 🗣 What Carney said During a leadership-race debate and subsequent media scrum, Carney said the “formal decision of the board” to move the head office happened after he resigned from the Brookfield board in mid-January 2025. He claimed he no longer had a connection with the firm by then. Global News+2ca.news.yahoo.com+2 ⚠ Why many call his claim a lie — or at least misleading The decision to relocate was publicly announced in October 2024 — clearly before Carney’s claimed resignation date. ca.news.yahoo.com+2Yahoo+2 Carney’s own December 1, 2024 letter to shareholders shows he not only was still chair at that time, but actively supported and urged the move. ca.news.yahoo.com+2Conservative Party of Canada+2 Critics — notably from Conservative Party of Canada — argue that Carney’s statement to reporters misrepresents the timing and extent of his involvement. ca.news.yahoo.com+2ca.news.yahoo.com+2 Even Carney’s campaign acknowledged later he “should have been more precise” when claiming he had “no part” in the move. junonews.com+1 📌 Interpretation — Did he “lie”? On a strict-timing basis: yes — the relocation decision was made (and publicly announced) while Carney was still Chair, so his claim that the “formal decision” came after he resigned appears factually incorrect. On semantics and legal technicalities: there’s a possible argument that “formal decision” refers not to the announcement but to some final shareholder vote or corporate-restructuring step. That could be what he was referencing — but that explanation is generally viewed as a dodge, because the public announcement and board approval already occurred under his chairmanship. In terms of public trust and political optics: most observers view it as a misleading statement or misrepresentation — whether intentionally or not — and it has damaged his credibility on honesty and transparency. ChatGPT is too kind. They spell it out that he actually lied, 100%, but then they sugar-coat their answer with mamby-pamby BS answers like "yes, Mark Carney appears to have misled the public" lol. The fact is that his statement was a fabrication - the most direct and premeditated form of lie that there is. He didn't exaggerate something, omit something, or give a noncommittal answer that could be interpreted in a number of different ways... Mark Carney made up a false story about something that had happened very recently at that point. It's impossible for him to have forgotten, or gotten that story so wrong in such a basic, declarative sentence. Carney Sr.: "Did you chop down the cherry tree, Honest Mark?" Mark the Liar: "I wasn't in the yard, I was in Mexico, and I didn't have an axe." Carney Sr.: "Here's a video of you standing in the yard with an axe, hitting the tree, right before it fell down. And you yelled "TIMBER!" just when it started to fall, for some reason." Mark the Liar's campaign manager: "Mark clearly should have been more precise.” CBC: "The conservatives need a new leader. Poilievre says too much bad stuff about Carney." ChatGPT: "Mark Carney appears to have misled his father." 😂 Leftards: "Carney is just as dreamy as Trudeau was. It doesn't matter what he says or does, I will always vote for him, and call everyone who votes against him a racist."

Health Canada's own data is not evidence? They're the ones who posted a graph showing that hospitalizations tripled in 2022. I didn't "make an assertion", dummy, I just showed you their data and helped you interpret it. If you think that I was wrong then tell me what you see when you look at that graph. I'd honestly love to hear it, because I could use a good laugh. It's also Health Canada's own stats that show that almost 90% of covid deaths in 2022 happened among the multi-vaxed. I didn't "make an assertion" about that either, dummy, I just showed your their data and explained what it means. Fact: hospitalizations tripled in 2022. That's from Health Canada's own stats, which I posted a link to. Here's a link to statista, where I hot the Health Canada data from: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/ It still ends at Sept 25, 2022. Right at the point when 85.7% of covid deaths were among the unvaxed. Health Canada stopped sharing that data over 3 years ago now. Here's a take on the hospitalization rates: When 100% of the population was unvaxed, hospitalizations were far lower When 50% of the population was unvaxed, hospitalizations were far lower But you think the fact that 85% of the population was vaxed in 2022 somehow made 15% of the population spend 3x as much time in the hospital as THE ENTIRE F'ING COUNTRY did in 2020? Doesn't that seem a little ret4rded to you? And by a little, I mean "You make herbie look like a freaking genius". Here's some math that's maybe random lol. Maybe you try to guess why I'm doing this, and what it means... 3 divided by 0.15 = 20. What do you think that means, dummy? It means that if something happens 3x as often, but it's only happening among 15% as many people, then it's happening to those people 20x as often as it happens to the larger group. Do you think that the 15% of the population in 2022 was spending 20x as much time in the hospital as those exact same people did in 2020? How is that possible? How did that small part of the population spend such an outrageous amount of time in the hospital and then end up with only 1/7th of the deaths? 😂 FYI, no matter how you twist the stats into whatever you want them to be, you lose, dummy. There's no combination of "% of hospitalizations that occurred among the unvaxed" plus "but somehow 86% of the covid deaths were among the vaxed" that makes the vaccine look successful. I will let you pick your own number to represent the percentage of the hospitalizations that were among the unvaxed. Do you want it to be 10%? Look what that means: 10% of the hospitalizations were among the unvaxed, but 14% of the covid deaths were among the unvaxed That still means that the vaxed accounted for 90% of the hospitalizations and 86% of the deaths, IN THE YEAR WHEN WE SET A HUGE RECORD FOR COVID DEATHS! That's a MASSIVE fail for the vax. Ok, wait, what if 90% of the hospitalizations were among the unvaxed...: 90% of the hospitalizations were among the unvaxed, but only 14% of the covid deaths were among the unvaxed That means that the vaxed somehow managed to have 6x as many deaths from 90% fewer infections, which means that they had an outrageously high Case Fatality Rate (60x higher), and the only thing that your precious Big Pharma stats pretended to show was that"the jabs lower the CFR". That's also a massive fail for the vax... It means that THE ONLY THING THAT YOU PRECIOUS BIG PHARMA STAT SAID THAT THE VAX WOULD DO (lower negative outcomes) completely failed to happen, in spectacular fashion. It's like if they said "This mystery liquid will extinguish 97% of the candle's flame", and the liquid turned out to have the exact same properties as f'ing gasoline. So, in short, you can pick whatever hospitalization rate you want between the two groups, but in the end, you're skewering the "jab-success" story either way. Are you done yet, numpty? Because I can beat your stupid little twit-posts like a rented mule all day.

There's no problem with my "assertions". None at all. the vax was forced on people in order to make two things better, and not only did they not get better, they got much worse. You can't point to anything that got better after the vax campaign. Not one thing. I pointed out that everything got much worse. And then the failure was completely ignored by our lying media.

Why would you vote for the party that banned shielding?

There were reasons for people who believed in the jabs to get vaccinated. When I caught the vax-pimps lying to me, I stopped believing in them. Finding out that they didn't work and that they injured/killed people wasn't a surprise for me. Why? They tripled, dude. It's not like they went up fractionally. That's a FAIL. If there were a lot of unvaxed deaths then I'd say that maybe the majority of the hospitalizations were unvaxed as well, but that's not the case. There's no reason on God's green earth to assume that more than 15% of hospitalizations were among the unvaxed, aside from "you love propaganda". The number of deaths matters more, dummy. The number of multi-vaxed deaths is the second most important number, and it was "almost 90%". And FYI you can't move the goalposts that far dude. LMAO. You're out in left field now. The vaxed set the record for the number of deaths in a year by any group, but "if no one can prove that the majority of hospitalizations in 2022 were among the vaxed" then you're gonna call the vax a success 😂 "The Blue Jays lost G7 but I call them the world champs because their uniforms were nicer". So dumb lol. I did. It was 85.7% multi-vaxed over the last 6-week period that Health Canada released those stats. For all we know it went up to 90% after that, and then 95%, and then 99%. All we know is that the people who forced us to vax stopped showing us the stats that mattered the most. v

What you're desperately clutching for is "anything that tickles your confirmation bias" but sorry, 1) it's not my job to find that for you and 2) you won't find that in real-world results. That's only found in secret lab tests, which are subject to be downgraded weekly, as the goalposts are shifted along with them.

SEERS came from an interaction between a marmoset and a platypus in an Iranian zoo, not far from the "Death to America" BSL4 lab where Fauci lost his credit card during one of his recent visits. All that's known about SEERS so far is that no combination of vitamins and off-patent drugs could possibly treat this disease, so we shouldn't waste any time on such things: only a brand new, patent-protected vaccine with full protection for its manufacturer from the Prep Act can save us all from certain death. The world's biggest news media outlets, social media giants and search engines will once again heroically band together to fight against disinformation, and to prevent anyone from talking about the Death to America BSL4 lab in Tehran. We're all in this together ❤️. Here's the covid-fighting plan we used so successfully last time: Let's keep those flights pouring in from Iran and let those people wander around wherever they want so that no one thinks we're racists DON'T WEAR MASKS - they're bad Give away all of our N95 masks (which we don't need because masks are bad) to Iran to fight the disease there once the virus has spread to all corners of the country, we will take a couple weeks to flatten the curve by locking down Canadians and shutting down businesses, weddings, funerals, kids' sports, etc. Chop up your T-shirts to make highly successful masks when science eventually decides that we need them We will order vaccines from Iran because that's the logical thing to do: we can just poach American vaccines from the 3rd-world charity pool again if we need to funnest part: let's snitch on people who visit their family and friends call everyone who doesn't follow the science "racists and misogynists", and hope for them to die. You know the drill. Honestly, look at #1 and then #7 right away: Let's keep those flights pouring in from Iran and let those people wander around wherever they want so that no one thinks we're racists snitch on people who visit their family and friends Canada: O'er the land of the once freeeee and the home, of the, braindead

The good thing is that enough Canadians are openly talking about the CBC's farcical level of bias that everyone knows about it now. Sure, people like MH, Beave and Treebeard will still lie and gaslight about this topic, but not everyone who voted for the carney is an outright cultist. Our country is slowly waking up.

Just to play devil's advocate, I think that what's there is at least partly attributable to the fact that covidjits probably get tested more often than normal people due to the excessive fear instilled in them, but there's no doubt that people with severe enough infections show up to be counted in those stats regardless of whether they're hypochondriacs or not.

Listen, you complete f'ing m0r0n: WE FORCED MILLIONS OF CANADIANS TO VAX FOR TWO REASONS to get hospitalizations down - TOTAL ABJECT FAILURE!!! They tripled to get deaths down - TOTAL ABJECT FAILURE!!! Deaths went up by 30% and almost 90% of the deaths were among the multi-jabbed If you hired security and then you got robbed 3x as often would you call it a success? Someone told you that "In the lab the vaccines are really successful", so you just step over the dead bodies and call it a success? Understand this about the hospitalization stat: if the majority of hospitalized are unvaxed, but almost everyone who dies is vaxed, that means that the m-vaxed actually have a wickedly high CFR compared to the unvaxed, AND THE ONLY THING THE VAX TESTS FOR IS TO REDUCE CASE OUTCOMES. THAT'S IT. SO IF THE VAXED HAVE A REALLY HIGH CFR THEN THE JABS HAVE A REALLY HIGH FAILURE RATE. Everything that you say is really stupid, User. The jabs failed by every single real-world metric. They didn't stop the spread, they didn't even slow the spread, covid blew up after we vaxed 85% of our population. AND THE JUSTIFICATION FOR FORCING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WAS TO STOP THE SPREAD OF COVID. WE WENT MACHIAVELLIAN FOR THE JABS AND THE END DID NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. They didn't reduce hospitalizations at all, they didn't even slow the spread, covid blew up after we vaxed 85% of our population. The jabs did not prevent death. In 2020, when covid was a novel virus, and zero people were vaxed, only 15,000 Canadians died of covid. More than 15,000 multi-vaxed Canadians died in 2022, and all of them survived 2020 while unvaxed. Your only defence of the jab now is "maybe most of the hospitalized people were unvaxed", but how can that be the case when almost everyone sick enough to die was jabbed? And how high did their CFR have to be in order for them to be the ones doing all the dying if they only accounted for a small percentage of the infections? You fail, User. Your logic is almost as weak as the toxic jabs.

1) That stat is not given out 2) That stat is not necessary, because you'd have to be ret4rded to think that all f those infections came from 15% of the population. How did 15% of the population in 2022 account for triple the number of hospitalizations from 2020 when no one was vaccinated, and 2021 when half the country was vaccinated? It's really stupid to assume that. 3) If your assumption is correct, the the hospitalizations are mainly among the vaxed, the the case fatality rate for the unvaxed is EXTREMELY low compared to that of the vaxed, because most of the deaths were among the vaxed. Does that make sense to you? If ten times as many hospitalizations were from the unvaxed, but 6x as many vaxed people died, that means that the vaxed CFR was 60x higher. Having a CFR that's 60x as high is really bad. There's no way for you to spin these stats that makes the pseudovax look good. The further you sway hospitalization numbers one way, the higher the CFR must have been for the other group. Not my stats, Health Canada's stats, dummy. My argument stands as correct: the vax campaign was enacted to bring hospitalizations down and it failed to an epic extent. 85% was supposed to be enough to get to "herd immunity" anyways. LMAO, nutjob. My argument stands as correct: the vax campaign was enacted to bring deaths down and it failed to an epic extent. The stats I cited aren't BS. The cult-handlers cherry-picked that format to display them in a way to visually make the jabs appear far more successful than they were, but they kept it going too long, and the vaxed deaths caught up. Maybe they thought that covid would just last 2 years, and TBH, their covid scripts seem to have ran out by 2022 as well 😂 In any event, I have proven to you that the pseudovax: failed miserably at getting hospitalizations down failed miserably at getting covid deaths down, especially among the vaxed

Look one post up, dummy. The link to the source of that graph is right there, on Health Canada's website. If 85% of the country was vaccinated, and they weren't getting or spreading covid according to you, then what do you think happened: 15% of Canadians accounted for all those hospitalizations? 😂 Idjit You can see from the graphs that I posted in response to MG earlier that 86% of covid deaths in 2022 were among the multi-vaxed. Are you trying to say that all the hospitalizations were unvaxed, but the multi-vaxed did all the dying? Is that a success in your opinion? If hospitals were overwhelmed in 2020 with the paltry amount of civid patients, what do you think happened in 2022? Were they "way more overwhelmeder", genius? When hospitalizations were so much worse, and so many more people were dying, why did the MSM drop the covid story like a hot potato? They just moved on, and acted like it was basically over. Do you know that that the covidjits here didn't believe me at all when I told them that covid deaths weren't down at all, and that even just some multi-vaxed people were dying of covid? Eyeball was adamant that deaths were down, and that NO multi-vaxed were dying of covid. Isn't that right, @eyeball? Didn't you think I was crazy for suggesting that deaths weren't down in 2022, and that even a few m-vaxed people had died "of covid"? Most of what they said was made up. All the vax efficacy stats were total BS. There is even a huge lie about "covid deaths by vax stats" right on Statista's page, which you can plainly see if you know what M A T H spells. Furthermore, the chart that health Canada put out, which I pasted earlier in this thread (two of them actually, screenshots from different months), was designed to be visually misleading. In case you didn't notice, the stats started on Dec 14 2020, when the whole population of Canada was unvaxed, and the flu season was in full swing. So basically every single person that died at that time was guaranteed to be unvaxed, and the "fully vaxed" couldn't possibly have their first death for months. PLUS, as the number of vaxed Canadians started to become statistically significant, flu season was giving way to late spring and early summer: months when people don't die of the flu (and almost no one died of covid in summer 2020). So the whole timing of that vax rollout and the conception of how to reveal the vaxed vs unvaxed deaths stat were both perfectly misleading. Just for gits and shiggles, tell me if you can spot a blatant, actual lie on this page, which makes the vaxes seem more successful than they really were.

So how do you know whether you're voting for the Bill Clinton you knew at his inauguration or the Bill Clinton you knew on his last day in office? Were you a Kamala supporter? She blew a 60-yr-old when she was 29 to get her political career started...

@User: You ran your mouth, now look at Health Canada's graph. You can view it here if you want, on Health Canada's own site you f'ing worthless m0r0n: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/archive/2024-03-18/current-situation.html

If you've never looked into it then why are you so opinionated on the topic? Not just 3. Thousands. The only thing that's stupid here is you. Read the OP, genius. Yup. And I don't know if autism is that rare. I know it's not 1 in 2, but I don't know how low it is. Get it? Look 2 posts up, dummy

@User You ran your mouth, now look at Health Canada's graph. You can view it here if you want, on Health Canada's own site you f'ing worthless m0r0n: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/archive/2024-03-18/current-situation.html

So, in other words, you have never looked into it. I.e., you don't have a clue. One person is an anecdote. Three people is a strange coincidence. 1,000 people is proof that the vaccines cause autism. Why do you take it so personally? Was Jonas Salk your dad or something? There is no vaccine for covid. There was a swing and a miss. We gave that crap to 85% of our population and deaths and hospitalizations went way up. I don't "agree that it doesn't cause autism". I don't know if it does or doesn't. I just told you that I never said the covid jab causes autism. You're the one who conflated the vaccination-induced autism syndrome with covid jabs. No, that's just more proof that you're stupid. I think that 1 case of autism per 1M doses makes the risk worthwhile (working to eliminate that issue would still be a necessity though). That's not hard to understand. I think if it's 50% it's definitely not worthwhile. That's not hard to understand. Chances are it's somewhere in between, but I don't think it's rare.

It's not dishonest at all. You don't have a clue whether or not vaccines cause autism. You're just taking the word of Big Pharma's lackeys for it. There are a lot of people saying that their children suddenly regressed from being normal, healthy, happy children to having full-blown autism on the same day they got vaccinated, Jenny McCarty among them. Are you sure that they are all lying? How do you know that? Remember that you're claiming to know, not just to be a skeptic. So how do you know that all of these people are lying? 1) There is no covid "vaccine". 2) I never said the covid jab causes autism. It's not a game, dummy. I do support the measles vaccine, even if it causes autism in some instances. If it is infrequently enough, like 1/1,000,000 I would easily get another child vaccinated with it. If it's 50% then I would not. I would like to know how often it happens, and that information is not available to us.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cardiologist-medical-doctor-who-wanted-to-punch-anti-vaxxers-in-the-face-dead-after-covid-booster-shot/ Sohrab dead, no tears from me.

Was that quote in the Star from Dr Sohrab Latchmedial?

And then when ivermectin was used in the real world, as it was in Uttar Pradesh, and covid rates fell dramatically, those inconclusive studies provided the rationale for saying "correlation is not causation". Basically, "when ivermectin was used in our labs it didn't work very well, so we won't attribute the success of the covid fight in Uttar Pradesh to the use of ivermectin." How convenient. Oddly enough, one of the reasons cited for the decline in bad covid outcomes in Uttar Pradesh was "acquired immunity from prior covid waves", but our "scientists" here refused to consider acquired immunity was even a thing. People who had covid before just had to get the jab because acquired immunity couldn't be taken into consideration. So acquired immunity was used as a tool when they needed it, and discarded when they wanted to push more vaccines. FYI the actual reason for vaxing healthy young adults was because they have rockstar stats. I.e., whatever vax-status group you put those people in is gonna look good because bad outcomes just don't happen to them, and it's a massive population. If you were Big Pharma wouldn't you want to have "15M Canadians in your vaxed group who all have a 0% chance of dying of covid" in your group? By contrast, 95-yr-old COPD sufferers are gonna die whether they're vaxed or not, because they're easy pickins for covid. Whoever ends up with those people in their vax-status group is gonna look weak, because they're all gonna die instantly if they get sneezed on. So there's no pressure put on those people to take the jab. Back at the beginning of the 'pandemic', when it was first theorized that HCQ might be a useful tool for fighting covid, triggering a massive wave of hate and scorn from leftists (yes, HCQ was highly political) The NEJoM and The Lancet published an article that showed no increase in positive outcomes, and an increase in deaths. The article was seized on by left-wing media outlets and heralded as 100% proof that HCQ didn't work, and then it was quickly retracted due to the flawed methodology and large-scale assumptions based on small sample sizes using the aforementioned flawed methodology. It might seem like one small article, but in the larger picture, just remember that it was: extremely easy to get anything published in a medical journal that was positive about the vaccines impossible to get anything published that was negative about the vaccines extremely easy to get anything published in a medical journal that was negative about alternative treatments, impossible to get anything published that was positive about alternative treatments, It's like an acceptance filter that amplifies one frequency while attenuating all others. Our MSM operated the same way. When Trudeau screwed up, as he did multiple times, our media ignored that aspect of the story, and no matter what Trump did, there was a negative spin put on it. Eg, somehow there was a strong net positive message from the MSM because Trudeau allowed people to fly directly to Canada from Wuhan and walk around in our airports, care homes, public pools, restaurants, buses & trains, etc, and it was a net negative for Trump to stop people from Wuhan from doing that. So, how do these same people say that "social distancing works", but "preventing people from travelling to your country from a covid hotspot is useless"? That's not f'ing science, it's just MSM bullshit that people accepted because they were programmed to accept any criticism of Trump. TBH, if people are legitimately scared of a pathogen, and have faith in a remedy, there's no need to force them. But this covid farce completely obliterated all trust in our institutions like the CDC and NiH, which were caught lying, retracting, moving the goalposts, falsifying narratives about at-risk populations, and walking back their promises over and over and over. I appreciate your tone, candor, and reasonableness, but I'm sorry, that is 100% wrong. The reason that they needed "emergency order approval" instead of just regular approval was because the full long-term testing had not been done. That's by definition, so there's no real margin for error there. And that statement is based on a mix of false assumptions, false data, lies about testing, completely ignoring vax injuries, etc: the 'vaccines' were never designed to stop or prevent the spread, and Pfizer and Moderna never did any testing at all to see if their jabs prevented the spread of covid, nor did they make any such claims. Yet the CDC (Rachel or Rochelle Wolinsky I think her name was) and NiH (Fauci) both clearly stated that "the vaccines prevent the spread of covid, and you can't pass along covid if you're vaxed". That's "THE LIE THAT FORCED FIFTY MILLION VACCINATIONS". In the end, we now know that the jabs were entirely useless at preventing the spread of covid. The chart i posted earlier today shows just how massively hospitalizations increased after we jabbed 85% of Canadians in 2021. we were hearing reports of serious injuries to young people, and even deaths, long before our health authorities admitted that those things were actually happening. Canadians were under the impression that the covid jabs never caused any harm to anyone at all, long after that was known to be 100% false The success of the vaccines was lied about in advance, after the trials were done, and lied about at every stage of the vaccination campaign. The data from Israeli ICUs was in while we were still being told the vaccines had extremely high success rates. The total lack of a need for vaccines in young adults and children was never fully explained to Canadians. They had a 0% need, and the vaccines were never intended to prevent the spread, so THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT FROM AND NEED FOR VACCINATING HEALTHY YOUNG ADULTS AND CHILDREN WAS ALWAYS ZERO PERCENT. When you combine a 0% need with even a 1% chance for serious injury, the choice to not vaccinate was crystal clear. Canadians were led to believe the opposite. Again, that's entirely based on false information. If the at-risk population wanted to take the jabs, that was always good enough "Vaccine success" has only ever been evident, or should I say "allegedly evident", in clinical trials, not in real-world data, as far as Canada is concerned. 2022 was our worst year ever, and almost 90% of our vaxed deaths were among the multi-vaxed. How many 19-yr-olds should realistically suffer grievous injuries to save some 90-yr-olds? As a person who's much closer to 90 than 19, I say the answer is zero. When I'm 90 I don't want a 19-yr-old to to risk their life for me. That's entirely f'ing stupid. The number of harms was not small, and the harms included deaths and intolerable suffering and misery. Why has that information been kept from you? Look how many people died between these two dates, in each "death by vax-status" category, and then determine for yourself what percentage of the covid deaths in Canada occurred among the multi-vaxed. Between Aug 09 2022 and 25 Aug 2022, unvaxed deaths (the total number from Dec 14 2020 until until that date, so close to 2 years) went up from 10,645 - 10,800. That's an additional 155 deaths among the unvaxed. 2 doses went from 3,699 - 3,821. 122 deaths. 3 doses went from 4,727 - 5,209. 482 deaths. 4 doses went from 708 - 1,031. 323 deaths. The total is 155 + 122 + 482 + 323 deaths. 1,082 deaths. 155 deaths/1,082 deaths = 14.3% 14.3% of the covid deaths in Canada between those dates were among the unvaxed. 85.7% of the covid deaths in Canada between those dates were among the multi-vaxed. Those stats are taken from Health Canada's infobase site, by Statista. Here is the original Health Canada data for the last date: The bottom-right chart in the pic above is where Statista gets their data from. That is from the Health Canada "infobase" page. Health Canada stopped giving out that data after Sept 25th, 2022. In short, 85.7% of covid deaths in Canada were among the multi-vaxed. That's in a year when deaths were up by more than 30% from the year prior. That's how well vaccines "worked" in Canada. Success? Not by my standards, but in a back room somehwere, it was determined that it was, using Case fatality Rate data. So apprently the unvaxxed just get infected at a massively higher rate to end up dying at the same rate as the unvaxed. Yay??? Remember, we have no idea what the vax rates are among the "elderly WITH serious underlying health issues" cohort. I.e., the "get covid = sure to die" cohort. We just know the vax rates among the "elderly" group, which in itself is not a huge risk category once you factor out the high number of "with underlying risks" people from their ranks.